"but they sting/bite/are toxic/are icky" blah blah. nature does not owe you safety

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Bees are like carpenters, they carry a knife but you're not worried they might stab you for no reason.

Wasps are like meth heads.

Shitty wasps like Yellow Jackets give almost all the other wasps a bad reputation. Yellow Jackets are mean and spiteful, even when they aren't protecting their nest.

Most other eusocial wasps are pretty docile, unless you mess with their nest or really go out of your way to harass them.

In many parts of the world, like my own, there are far more species of solitary wasps than eusocial wasps. Solitary wasps are nearly all non-aggressive, they don't have communal nests to defend, and they basically don't have time to fuck around with stinging shit because they are too busy building a chamber for their eggs, collecting food for their upcoming progeny, and trying to stay fed and hydrated while doing it.

So what I'm getting at is that most wasps I encounter on a regular basis are pretty chill. Really, this goes for bees as well. Most of the ones I see on a regular basis are solitary types and non-aggressive. The most aggressive bees I tend to encounter are male carpenter bees. They are highly territorial and they'll even buzz a human to scare them off. However, there's no threat. Male bees and wasps cannot sting, they do not even have stingers.

Bees, wasps, ok, got it.

But mosquitoes? I'be yet to find a biologist that would advocate for preservation of mosquitos. Kill them with fire.

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Ok, fine, educate me, what do wasps contribute to the environment?

More wasp propaganda. Nature does not owe me safety. My house siding is NOT NATURE. I WILL REVEL IN THEIR DEATH THROES.

Of course nature doesn't owe us safety. That's why it's up to us to ensure our own safety by killing it with fire.

I will not stand for this Pro wasp propaganda!

What about ticks?

Kill them with fire!

Stupid question.

Could a wasp be bred/altered to not have a sting, or at best not have a sting that can penetrate human skin? It's akin to domestication, but we selectively breed wasps to not be such cunts.

I stopped being scared of wasps after learning how to read their body language. Quiet buzzing and relaxed wings = calm, whereas loud buzzing and raised wings = mad. Plus, as long as you're not allergic, a sting is just temporary pain, which definitely isn't worth taking their life. Wasps are literally just animals, and we should be kind to them.

Pest control guy killed the wasps on my balcony without asking :/ I don't even use the balcony, they were just chillin. Now theres just a pile of corpses

I'm torn by spider wasps. I get irrationally angry when I see one of my wolf spider buddies getting dragged across the yard to their death.

listen, i didn't ask to be born with a functional aversion to isopods and insects in general, ok.

I didn't want this shit, but i got it anyway.

Cordylobia anthropophaga can go die in a fire.

yeah, nature does not owe you safety, which is why i kill wasps on sight because I'm part of nature. get fucked, wasps, we all know you're just fascist bees.

I know they're important. I'm also afraid of them because some members of my family have had adverse reactions to stings from wasps. I would like wasps to live happy, happy lives far, far away from me.

I haven't killed a wasp in years. And that was only because it was building a nest inside my storm door just above eye level. Surprised the shit out of me because I barely saw the nest in the dark, struggled to change focus, and jumped back once I realized what I was seeing. Was not a fun encounter. It's like, buddy, nobody was gonna be happy with that arrangement.

I feel like humans are the only species whose extinction would not have a negative effect on Earth's ecosystem (quite possibly a positive one)

Bugs are cool as long as they are spiders who exclusively eat other bugs. And pill bugs.

Blue-eyed ensign wasps are cute :3

Had one indoors the other day at work and someone noticed it and was bothered by its existence. I took a picture of it and the grabbed it to take it outside. Would have preferred to let it be, but worried others might hurt it :\

get revenge by eating figs

Paper wasps usually are fine unless you get too close. I opened up the old toolbox on my grandad's tractor (parked outside, lid slightly ajar) as a curious kid. I was greeted by angry buzzing followed swiftly by stinging.

I also have some on the outside of my carport where the roof overhangs a bit. I could harvest my peppers a couple meters below them without issue. Once I got a little close and one did the diving/swooping "sod off" manoeuvre, but otherwise never bothered me. Their nest got taken out by a typhoon a few days ago, however

I imagine a world without bees and wasps to look more like those in my dinosaur books.

Is there a bee-ologist who can tell me if hornets are wasps, or are they their own thing?

The wasps around here have always been pretty chill around me, but I get wary around hornets.

Polistes Dominula are just friendly neighbours who like to chill around you when you do stuff with water or food or like to "help" when you DIY. They also gather to cool down in shaded areas around noon. I've never seen the nest, maybe that's why they are so chill. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdzuoldCYHw

it's kinda funny how the core issue of these posts is really just that people say "wasp" when they mean "hornet"

wasps are fine, most wasps are barely noticable and couldn't give less of a toss about our existence.
hornets are the terrible ones, especially the kinds that grow way way way way larger than they have any right of doing, at least craneflies have the common decency to be thin and seemingly incapable of guiding their flight.

If nature doesn't owe us safety, we don't owe it kindness either.

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