Black people? In my japanese fantasy game?!

What is fundamentally wrong with these people?

What is it that they actually want?

It seems like they don't want anyone except themselves to exist. That's clearly not a realistic thing that is going to happen and they're inexplicably angry about it. All the time. One might as well go through life wishing that the colour green doesn't exist.

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They want these groups to exist, so that there's a class of people that they can feel superior to

But once society starts even slightly addressing the inequality in the most minor ways, they're terrified that their 'superiority' is at risk and they can't cope with that

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- To a certain extent, I don't even think it's that. I think they are annoyed that instead of organically tying characters to different thoughts and different views, it just gets shoehorned in. I think it's the same sort of thing when they have to throw an awkward trope or a love interest into a game where it doesn't benefit the story by any means. I think a majority of these people feel that instead of organically tying these characters in, they are worried about Sony shoe-horning in what they consider woke/PC culture into something just for the sake of being woke/PC.
  
  That said, I really hope that they continue to show people of different views, ideas, and lifestyles in games, as "demystifying" the perspectives and lives of marginalized groups typically changes how people perceive these others outside of their typical worldview.
  
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They do, and they're told to be very angry about it.

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Conservative thought is that hierarchy in society is good and natural... so long as you allow it to develop organically. "Wokeness" is an attempt to "subvert" the "natural hierarchy", which is clearly why things are going wrong in society.

Long story short, some podcast bro told them that shit is bad cause woke and they didn't put even an iota of additional thought into that.

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Probably all non white males should be the enemy in their games to reflect their dream world?

Except white hetero women ofc.

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Isn't this satire?

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- This specific example may or may not be, but there's been plenty of examples of developers, voice actors, and so on that have been on the receiving end of awful behaviour from people that do think like this.
  
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These are satirical/ironic. It's a joke, probably fair to call it a circlejerk but it's mostly self-perpetuating at this point. "Gamer, rise up!" and "I'm sure everyone will have pronouns as well" are the main giveaways. The last one I'm less sure about because the punchline is weak but I would still guess it isn't sincere.

Gamers Rise Up context

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- I used to believe like you. That these were just trolls. Otherwise reasonable people having a laugh. Good times all around.
  
  And then the election happened. So now I'm no longer sure that the world is full of mostly reasonable people. And I believe at least half of these people are actually like this.
  
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- It could be, but I've seen what seems to be genuinely held beliefs that look identical to these.it turns out these very fragile snowflakes actually exist too, to the detriment of us all.
  
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- Have you seen the Stellar Blade petition videos? People like the ones in the comments exist.
  
  https://youtu.be/UCCeDNVfW04
  
  Sure some are parodying but these socially awkward white men who wrap their entire life’s around videogames are real and are the loud minority. Because games are their life they feel attacked when they see non-whites they can’t kill in games.
  
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I DON'T WANT HOMOSEXUALS IN MY GAMES, WHAT IF I START TO HAVE FEELINGS FOR THEM, HUH!?

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Better start practicing UwU

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Ah yes. Nothing runs a game quite like having options

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fucking embarassing takes from fans of a game that secretly gender swapped chracters in multiple installments intentionally to get a message to them that assigned gender at birth really doesn't matter. these dipshits think the small independent game studio being bought by a big megacorporation will turn the small org woke? laughable. from software has always been woke if you had any media literacy at all. no megacorporation is or can be woke. there are reasons to be sad about this (art works best when made from passion, not from being told how to make it by shareholders), but these fascistic fucks are butthurt for all the worst reasons

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- From software is no small nor independant tho. They have 400+ employees and are owned by Kadowaka since like 10+ years
  
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- Imagine learning about Marika/Radagon and not getting the whole 2 souls 1 body gender issues
  
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"Ah yes, there's nothing better than no options."

--Logan Ninefingers (The Bloody Nine), The Last Argument of Kings

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everyone will have pronouns

Yes, that's how English works, everyone has pronouns unless you want to use their name every time they're referred to.

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I have a friend who didn't use pronouns when talking to or about others for a while. Turns out they were struggling with their own gender identity and they started using pronouns again once they figured themselves out.

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- This was a heartwarming and satisfying story arc.
  
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The internet is so stupid that the people who are being stupid and the people who are being hilarious cannot form a legible Venn diagram

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- "Asking for pronouns is woke, therefore pronouns are EVIL!"
  
  I'd like for them to stop using them altogether and only use names just to "trigger" us.
  
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Imagine being a straight white man and feeling underrepresented in videogames.

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white fragility is hilarious.

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Tinfoil hat Tbh these are mostly plants to deflect from the real scary thing that the next release will be a $79 base edition with $40 addons to uncap your souls allowing you to level past 10, micro-tansactions to buy drops you are usually finally getting on NG+4, and a $5 respec fee

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I don't know that we need a distraction from that. That's just what games cost now.

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- All of that extra crap is most certainly not just what games cost now. Take Baldur's Gate 3 as example of a game done right. I would never buy a game with a pricing structure like the example given above. Never.
  
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- looks at collection of 10-20 € games with hundreds of hours of play time
  
  Yeah... yeah, that's totally what games cost these days.
  
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From has been exploring gender ambiguity at least since Dark Souls. It’s nothing new.

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You can already change everything about your appearance, sexual characteristics included, for free at any time in the hub area of Elden Ring too

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- Gywnevere, the big tiddy mommy that gives you the lord vessel, is male. DS2 had a coffin, guarded by trolls hilariously, that lets you swap gender at will. From has always been based.
  
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Oh man, next they're going to introduce a divine being that can freely morph between female and male sexual characteristics. Or a magical femboy twink who visits peoples dreams. God imagine if FromSoftware started doing social commentary on the crumbling state of our hierarchical institutions, with a focus on how those who try to suppress the natural order of the world are responsible for all the problems.

Good thing art isn't inherently woke, otherwise some of these commenters would have a thought.

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The first one is hilarious because you've been able to change your gender at will in the Souls games since the very first Dark Souls. DS1 you use a ring. DS2 you use a coffin. DS3 and everything after you just use the respec system and alter appearance.

"THE NATURE OF YOUR BEING HAS CHANGED."

Though it is weird hearing the dialogue use pronouns for every character but yours. You're still trying to be the Lord of Cinder or the Elden Lord even if you're a lady, but they will say Lady Rennala. Go figure. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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In a lot of systems, Lady is an honorific inherited or gained by marriage, but Lord (or equivalent) indicates the person is the main titleholder.

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- You'll also see some fiction avoid the title "Empress" for the same reason.
  
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I'm sure everyone will have pronouns as well

This person is in for quite a shock

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It's so progressive of these people to boycott third-person pronouns to avoid misgendering. Clark went to the store. Clark wanted fruit; Clark got some peaches, because Clark thought the peaches looked good. Truly the language of the future where everyone has a unique neopronoun.

Oooh, wait, he/she only wants male and female third-person singular pronouns (potentially "they/them" too since the reactionaries have all but lost that battle they started, although I'm sure some of them do really want to go back to assuming male or excruciatingly writing out/pronouncing "he/she"). I get it.

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I don't like corporate consolidation, but these guys reasons are ridiculous. I'd argue that the "woke mind virus" is what infected these guys to chirp "woke woke" at every little thing. You think Sony gives a shit?

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So dumb. At least some of the characters will be black and gay.

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Damn gamers still be the worst huh?

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Please, this isn't just gamers.

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- Well yeah but we ARE in a gaming community so thats what we're talking about....
  
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This woke bullshit is gonna ruin us. Sorry, ruin incels

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open racism sexism and homophobia

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I recently got Lunacid, a RPG that takes inspiration from Kings Field and Shadow Tower lineage made by a solo dev. It's a great game I suggest you pick it up btw.

It has pronouns selector in character creation with some zhe/zher stuff. It has no affect on any in game dialog or stats. The dev put it in just to get people like this upset. I didn't realize this until I looked in the steam community discussions and saw the amount of people seething about it with the devs themselves taunting them in the comments.

The amount of people who genuinely get hot and bothered by this was surprising to me. I'm not really a gender identity orientated person so its not something I feel strongly about but I understand its important for some and just picked my prefered ones then moved on with the game. I respect the power move making bigoted chuds and squares salty at the cost of some sales.

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that's genuinely how fragile, how weak minded they are: they cannot fucking stand even the mention of other, much less it's existence, without it becoming part of their cultural war on 'woke'.

what a sad little life to lead, constantly worried about what some videogame somewhere has in it's content.

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I mean Sony will ruin it. But I am banking more on them introducing mtx garbage and loot box bullshit and all the other things that make modern AAA a fucking dumpster fire.

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Yup. The right wing "game commentators" are staging themselves to be able to say "I told you so" even though they absolutely aren't interested in talking about the real issues of modern AAA games.

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Second hand cringe and embarrassment just reading it

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Honest question: Isn't cringe actually just second-hand embarassment? That is, isn't cringe when you see someone else doing something embarassing?

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- You might be right. English is my second language so maybe I interpret them differently. For me they describe two similar reactions, but quite different feelings.
  
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Nobody cares about your anti-woke bullshit crusade. Grow the fuck up.

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From Software was devious in creating a character everyone loves but not telling gamers that he's a minority under the onion armor

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There's already a literal hormone slider in the character creator

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Now half of the NPC's in Elden Ring

NPCs*

I would say the commenter is both bigoted and dumb, but the former adjective made the latter redundant.

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(!) they might even have a marriage scene and a special ring that changes your character stance to that of the opposite sex.

Oh, wait…

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Og hate pronouns. Og want non-Og talk like Og.

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Dark Sun Gwyndolin: am I a joke to you

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Took until the last comment until I figured that this probably not a self aware joke.

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The obvious absurdity should make it clear these comments can't be taken seriously.

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