Bill Burr calls out insurance companies over LA fires

He’s definitely a bit of an asshole, but at the end of the day, from what I’ve seen from him over the years he does have his head on straight on a LOT of issues.

I don't even think he's an asshole, honestly. He just has no filter against stupidity.
- Hard agree. I used to think he was just strictly a dick, but his introspection and growth shows he's really honestly been thinking about things with as much empathy as he can muster.
- Tbh that’s probably a big part of why I think his head on straight, because I’m kinda the same way in that regard
- That's a good point I think but I'd argue that's kinda a recipe for an asshole. Especially if you think you're always right and everyone else is stupid. Not that I think that's really the case with burr (I mean he can definitely be a bit of an ass sometimes but who isn't) and I don't have much of a problem with him at all but I think you're description kinda only makes a person conditionally not an asshole 😄
He's essentially as close to Carlin as we're likely to see.
- There's also Josh Johnson.
- Shhh, that's what people were saying about Dave Chappelle before, you know, all the stuff he's said recently about trans people
He's like my inner angry voice when I'm pissed off at something but as a person.
Is he though? I can’t think of any takes from him that I haven’t liked.
- He’s definitely gone into territory that I think some people find “offensive”, but I personally find to just be blunt. Maybe it’s the old school Bostonian vibe, which I understand as a Bostonian, and some people not from the region don’t necessarily.
- I do not care for him using homophobic and ableist words as insults, but he's from Boston so it doesn't surprise me that he does. Other than that, he seems like a decent guy.

Seeing stuff like this in the uplifting news community instead of shit like ‘local kid spends 60 hours a week selling lemonade to pay for sister’s cancer treatments’ is why I appreciate Lemmy vs Reddit.

That interview on Jimmy Kimmel has an obvious edit shortly after Bill says "free luigi!". I'm not sure if the producers of the show cut the crowd reaction or something else Bill said, but something was definitely cut out.

I hope it was loud cheering.
- No, they kept the cheering.
I'm not sure if they cut anything that he actually said, but it cut to what happened after they came back from commercial. I'm guessing it wasn't a sloppy editing job though.

Always fun when Bill Burr makes a talk show host visibly uncomfortable. I'm worried they'll stop having him on altogether. Supporting Luigi might be crossing the line. I dunno how Jimmy Kimmel feels about Luigi Mangione, but I know how the people who sign his paychecks feel.

If they can't get people to hate Luigi, they'll shift to getting people to forget about him.

I don't watch Jimmy Kimmel, is he just a bad interviewer? Cuz he sucked. Even the introduction was bad.
- He was the guy what did the Man Show, right? The one that featured chicks on trampolines?
  He's gone downhill
- Trump hates Kimmel because he dunks on him all the time
- He doesn't really interview, it's just setting up four panel jokes. He uses the same vibe as his opening monolog
He’s too good for ratings. People tune in to watch him make the host uncomfortable

It's against the rules of lemmy.world to call for violence against insurance companies, and the people who work for them, so I won't. But I don't think it's against the rules to imply I would if that wasn't in the rules.

It's not against the rules to imply that the rules should be different.
- Unfortunately it's the jurisdiction that they operate under that enforce some of those rules.
Depends on the moderator. The can say it’s a “call for violence”
Bunch of pussy bullshit
Did you know that it's illegal to say "I want to kill the president of the United States of America"?
- Do you think that sketch would be allowed on air these days
- sounds like something the whitest kids you know might say.
Let Bill do it for you!
I'm surprised to see this comment and the amount of upvotes.
Doesn't this break the PC bubble, where every person who works a mediocre job is a good person and no matter how disgusting the company is, you should never take your frustration out on them, yada yada yada.
But if it's an insurance company it's okay to commit violence?
- Yup, thats it. People are literally saying that its okay to commit violence against anyone who works for any kind of insurance company. Even the cleaners of a home insurance firm.
  Well done you for understanding the situation.
- I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't think anyone has advocated violence here, have they? That's certainly not in my comment.
- Eeeeehhh.... depends on negative individual impact on society and personal gain? I think the barely surviving insurance Employee should never be the target, what are you implying here? Have the insurance office shootings already taken over the school shootings? What meta level of could should have we reached to Dodge the ban?
- Different people
  I believe a revolution that is gained through blood is doomed to become oppressive
  Look at China for instance
  Other people disagree and feel change cannot happen without violence

He was going off about CEOs being the new mafia, just mafia supported by the law this time around. And speculating on whacking between CEOs, like Walmart vs Target and such, pre Luigi. And then Luigi happened and he’s like: well yeah.

Really, it all fit with his pre Luigi narrative.

Fucking just make this guy the face of the dnc and we can be done with all this shit already. Just fucking do it already. Pull the strings, pad his pockets, and get going with reconstruction.

I swear to God if someone passes control of the dnc to bill burr we will skip 50 years of regression.

There's very few people that could run the DNC worse than the current DNC.
You can hand the keys of the DNC to a baked potato and it would do a better job than current leadership.
I wasn't always sold on the guy. He got a little too cozy with the "anti-woke" bullshit. But he always remained better than the best of that set, and somewhat distinct from them as well.
After seeing his Kimmel appearance, I'm convinced. Hand him the keys.
If the DNC is still a thing in 4 years, we have utterly failed as a nation and we can drop the pretense of not being a 3rd world country. (Yes, I know we are in the definition...time to change that definition).
- The DNC isn't going anywhere. GOP needs them to give the illusion of democracy. Only they will cede more and more power as they "lose" more and more elections.
That might convince me to actually vote democrat
- I'm telling you, the DNCs head is so far up it's own ass. They act like they are powerless to stop trump but really they are powerless to stop trump. Ineptitude, short sightedness, and hubris. I can't emphasize it enough. They are a sunk cost and the sooner people realize it and move on the quicker we can start to fix all this. Unfortunately, we'll let the cancer grow and root itself further and if they ever come to realize it will be too late.

Sometimes I'm not sure if I'm a Bill Burr fan, but then he does shit like this and I go all Gaga for him.

His comedy is pretty good. Not so much his old stuff but his newer stuff is amazing. Like his comedy or not, he's always had a "fuck you" attitude about this kinda stuff which is why I respect him so much. The only comedian I know that calls shit like it is and calls out other people on their bullshit without giving a shit about what he says. He's like the voice in the back of my head when I'm pissed off at something incarnate.
- I followed him back on O&A and watched his small bits to his Breaking Bad stuff and everything... seen him like 5 times live. I love his body of work ... old to new.
  His "fuck you" attitude is one that makes me wish I'd have a friend like Bill calling my ass out. I love it.
- Yeah, feels like he is walking in Carlin's foot steps but with his own cadence.
Capital-G Gaga? Like you put on a meat dress or something?
- Are meat dresses made out of skirt steak?
- Clearly my keyboard thought so.
A bad romance, you could say.

I watched that clip on Kimmel. I don't normally watch but I like Bill Burr. Kimmel got really uncomfortable after he said Free Luigi. Not just like the network telling him, but in a way that seemed like Kimmel doesn't understand why people like Luigi.

Kimmel gets it...his advertising people won't be happy about it though.
- I think a lot of rich leftists are hoping that shit holds together long enough that they can die comfortable, even if it means poor people have to suffer decades.
That's okay. I don't understand why people like Kimmel.
- There's lots of things I don't understand.
  Like the color of thought and the sounds of a rainbow.
Kimmel is really quiet leftist, so he gets it. But he's also beholden to network executives who only understand money and the things that make them money. And advertisers don't like Luigi or the idea that CEOs are disposable.
- Kimmel is a brogressive limousine liberal.
  That doesn't make him a bad guy, but based on what I've seen of Kimmel it's entirely possible that he would not understand

And the only comment on that article a bot decrying the horrible cold blooded murder and that a figure as visible as Burr should invoke the name. We're all cheering the murder you fucks and no amount of pissing on us and telling us its raining will make us stop.

This is the interview: https://youtu.be/r7wcU4W4tDE

Thank you

Insurance companies are taking the risk of offering insurance. That is why they normally make money year after year after year.

When bad things happen, they take the hits. They take on some debt. They stop making profits... because they decided to purchase the risk from people. That's the gig.

There is a middle ground here that doesn't bone homeowners and doesn't completely bone the insurance companies affected. They should be taking on debt and making zero profits until they pay it off. That's not how things work here though, i'm sure they will be bailed out on taxpayer money or something.... but what should probably happen is that they should be given a federal loan on pretty favorable terms, something like 1-2% interest, until it's paid off.

At the same time standards for homes in areas at risk should be such that fire mitigation is mandated whenever a house changes hands. This will inevitably drive up costs, but again maybe this is another case for low/no interest rate loans to cover the changes. A billion or two today could save 25-100-500++ billion over a few years.

I am pretty close to the opinion that all private companies need to be abolished and absorbed by collective ownership. There are almost no instances where I can see greed being the secret ingredient that makes things run MORE smoothly.
- Louder for the people on the back, please!
There is a middle ground here
There doesn't need to be a middle ground. Most developed countries do fine with universal healthcare.
- You're not incorrect, though his comment seems specifically targeted at home owners insurance.
- Help, my house is sick and needs a doctor!
what you dont see is the bailouts when disasters happen. Insurance companies only take the hits for small fires. Not for big ones. The have always made money hand over fist.
That’s not how things work here though, i’m sure they will be bailed out on taxpayer money or something…
Insurance companies are typically reinsured themselves, so it's entities like Lloyd's of London that will ultimately be paying for this.

This is slightly off-topic, but I really hope someone films this new Broadway version of Glengarry Glen Ross, because Bill Burr and Bob Odenkirk doing Mamet? Holy fuck do I want to see that.

Yeah, I listen to the Smartless podcast and they've brought it up a few times lately, including when KK was on there recently. I have very little interest in theater, but the cast alone makes me want to check it out. The cast alone will also be why I can't afford to go probably.
- I really don't know Kieran Culkin well enough to know how he would be, but those other two make me want to see it almost as badly as I want to see the production of Waiting for Godot put on by Robin Williams and Steve Martin, which I doubt was ever filmed since it would have come out long ago.
Wait, WHAT?! Seems I have some furious Googling to do
- Technically, that was why he was on Kimmel in the first place. To promote it. But it's Bill Burr and he gives zero fucks, so he talked politics instead (although he did also bring up the play).
  https://playbill.com/article/kieran-culkin-bob-odenkirk-bill-burr-to-star-in-broadway-revival-of-glengarry-glen-ross

This seems pretty on-brand for burr.... He's always kind of rooted for the "little guy" so to speak. He's also blunt and doesn't really give a shit if you don't like what he has to say.

He's also blunt and doesn't really give a shit if you don't like what he has to say.
Dude got the charisma and established brand. If you got so much social capital, a lot of people tend to look the other way. It's kinda like with Trump and Elon Musk, except the two can get away with things in a bad way.

If my faith in humanity were higher before I would think long covid had huge measurable impacts on average intelligence.

It probably did, but bluntly, when were already this far down, getting worse isn't really noteworthy.

How exactly is this uplifting? Because Bill Burr said something? This means what? That change will happen, insurance companies will change their ways??? This sub standards are so low.

I would say its pretty unusual for a celebrity with a reputation, status and money on the line to be on the side of public opinion when it goes against what the people in power are saying. Its uplifting because his voice is louder than mine, i cant make an impact on my own and keep luigi out of jail. But with bill outspoken and on my team, something might actually happen.
standards are so low.
Dawg have you seen the news lately? Also Burr is an icon
- Well then, what he said will solve it won’t it.
  The cope…
Maybe there should be a community for Uprising News

He doesn’t say much that wasn’t cut out,

Here is a 1 min video from a month ago that goes into more detail:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OILUHHtZt4c

He doesn’t say much that wasn’t cut out
My brain hurts trying to make sense of the negations in this conundrum. Thanks for that. 😞
- It confused me a little too, removing both n't-s makes it easier to understand.
  He does say much that was cut out.