Zelenskyy Declares: “Putin Will Die Soon” Amid Rumors of Russian Leader’s Failing Health
Zelenskyy Declares: "Putin Will Die Soon" Amid Rumors of Russian Leader’s Failing Health - The Sarkari Form
No matter how many bad people are waiting to take his place, one less Putin in the world is a net positive.
I'll believe it when I see it.
He's a hard cockroach to get rid of.
Evil has a way to endure. Just look at Mitch McConnell.
They're giving him the Lenin treatment before he's even dead
He's going to be around forever
Only the good die young, assholes live FOREVER
So far in our species history, the most rich and powerful have not been able to defeat father time (they want to, but they can't figure out how ... Yet).
When I watched the first season of altered carbon, all I thought of was how the worst of our species will be the ones to live forever. I think avoiding death is really just a bio-engineering problem, and will be figured out if climate change doesn't unalive us all first
His replacement will almost certainly be bad but they will have the opportunity to hang the whole Ukraine debacle on Putin and end the war. No certainty of this of course, but it's possible.
They will of course attempt to keep the lands gained, they will be obliged to play the card of the referendum regions. But most of all they will need support, Oligarchs losing money, public losing sons, jobs, purchasing power. They will need to regain a hold on power and they cant do that by projecting what they have.
This is why I'm against anti aging research. I can't get over how bad it would be if anti-aging tech arrives. Only the wealthy and powerful could afford it.
Depends on the flavor of the research. I'm all for still dying in my 70s but also am for being relatively fuckable until the very end.
Technically DIY gene therapy already exists. You probably can't afford to do it working at McDonalds if you pay rent, but it's something.
But yeah, there isn't any real reverse-aging tech, yet. Not until that lobster scientist figures out how to extend telomeres, the stem cell dudes figure out how to regenerate entire organs, and the CRISPER dudes invent a way for the cascade proteins to target degraded or virus-alterred DNA regularly. Even then, humans aren't really built to live past reproductive ages, even a perfect genetic condition would accumulate tissues in all the wrong places.
I think what the world truly needs is lower total populations only achievable via education and empowerment of young men and women. Mostly women. Especially the empowerment part.
really hope he doesnt pull a kissinger. that fuck let us wait for so long, when it actually happened, it was kinda like a wet fart
My reaction: he was STILL alive! These deals with the devil keep getting better and better.
My man. I've been doing that since I was 5 years old. It is a fucking TRAVESTY that even living in 2010 during the nostolgia orgins era, PeeWee Herman never got redemption in getting his show return to CBS. Although to be fair, by the time 2010 rolled around the whole concept of Saturday morning cartoons was dead. So it would be kind of weird to sandwich PeeWee's Playhouse between CBS morning news and Meet the Press.
Still though...
New world order: Putin dies, successor adopts democracy and joins NATO, Trump leaves NATO and goes full authoritarian, US becomes new dictatorship while Russia becomes new leader of the free world.
Even if Putin's successor adopts real democracy, it will take generations to change the national psyche that thinks they need a strong leader. As much as the west hates Putin, he does have real support among the people. At least as long as he remains strong.
Most importantly, it takes rewriting their school books.. The Russian school books on mathematics and on Russian language rant about Russian supremacy.
This comment actually broke my brain, please tell me this is bait 😭
A Russian leadership change would be good enough to stop the Ukrainian war. Any new leader would need resources close to hold power.
This also just wont happen, Trump is the figure uniting the fascists in the US when he pops it topples and the spell is broken. There is a lot of horrible factors and clean up to be done but Trump doesn't have the means to go full auhtoritarian I dont think.
Trump is the figure uniting the fascists in the US when he pops it topples and the spell is broken.
I sincerely hope so, but I don't find that likely. People aren't turning to fascism just because they like him, they're doing so because they aren't able to think critically, or are hateful, or are looking for easy answers to the complex issues fucking up their lives, or all of the above.
Trump didn't get to power in a vacuum. The political environment is ripe for it.
Russia has tried joining NATO before, NATO wasn't really interested. It's one of the main reasons Russia is convinced NATO is inherently hostile to Russia.
That is absolutely not why Russia dislikes NATO, it's because NATO was built to defend against russia (CCCP/URSS which was led by russia).
That's also why the anti-bully club rejected the bully
Russia's behaviour whilst holding a veto in the UN Security Council pretty much proves to NATO that Russia would only be an obstacle, and no asset at all. Fuck Russia! With a giant cactus. No lube!
This just made me spit my beer and laugh out loud in a pub. Thank you.
Anyone done a health check on our Dear Leader of The Most Perfect Health Kim Il Trump?
My worry is that if Putin is on his death bed that he will launch the nukes because he wants to take the world with him. Trump would probably do the same.
I very highly doubt that Putin would do this. Putin isn't a genius, but he's nowhere near being an idiot. He knows if he did that, Russia would die with the rest of the world. And he's never given any sort of hint that he's the kind of person that wants the whole world to die with him.
Not only that, but like the United States, it isn't actually Putin who launches the nukes. And there are historical instances of Russian nuclear officers refusing to launch nukes. I honestly trust the warmongering, imperialist dictator Putin not to launch more than I trust our own president, and that's terrifying to think about. Because Trump IS exactly the sort of person to order a nuclear launch because he's throwing a hissy fit and believes the myth of American exceptionalism.
It doesn’t really matter, even if he gives the order, nobody will push the button for him. Unless NATO tanks are rolling over the border or rockets are falling on Moscow, military commanders will not choose to end their lives (along millions).
I honestly don’t think this, but who knows. What could be a bad result is some worse leader stepping in or a coup requiring force to execute, then that person flexing their power with an even more violent purge. That seems to happen with unplanned changes of power. They have to kill the “offspring” of the previous leader and eliminate criticism or competition.
I'm worried that he actually died during his first term (when he caught COVID) and was replaced with a younger stunt double - and that they could just keep doing this forever. I mean, it wouldn't be that much more unbelievable than what's already happened.
rumors about the Russian leader's failing health.
Yeah yeah, we've had these for years now. Wake me up when Russia's new president signs a peace deal that isn't a full on annexation of Ukrainian territories with nothing in return. If that ever happens.
Putin cancer and Trump legal consequences: this time for sure™️
It will be true eventually
That's true. But it's also true that the guy isn't immortal.
Technically not proven yet. Hopefully soon.
When the time eventually comes, I wonder how big of a bloodbath the change of regimes will be?
There's probably a bunch of also bad people waiting in line to take his place. But would still celebrate his death though.
Probably, but there's likely to be a lot of infighting about which one of them would take over.
After Stalin it took more than 50 years for anyone to achieve the kind of power that he had. Once Valodja is gone (can't be soon enough), the situation will be similar. The satraps will fight among themselves and maybe, just maybe there will be some meaningful opposition again.
At least whoever takes over next has good reason to rescind the war effort. Unlike the panty poisoner who is locked into this by his imperious attitude
Yes, there are bad people waiting, but whoever comes in would be a fool to keep the Ukraine war going.
Let's hope there's a bunch so they stay busy fighting each other for it, instead of other people.
Yes. But there will be a huge power vaccume. They will tear each other into pieces to get to the thrown
I want that day to be printed as big in global news as "HITLER DEAD!"
I fully expect a boat load of those world wide in a little bit
Gonna go to Poland when that happens <3
"Fallen at his command post," eh? Sounds like what they'd report if Trump choked to death on a hamberder while on the toilet.
Putin dood wat nou?
can putin take trump with him
In Egypt, leaders were buried with their property…
Trump was probably the one who contaminated him
Hell is already salivating
They've been needing a new Chief Eunuch...
And they are making Putin cut his own balls off
Hopefully Trump and Putin’s bodies take care of the problems for the world sooner rather than later
The bigger issue is that Trump and Putin are just the most visible part of the problem.
If they both died tomorrow (oh god please), another would simply take their place. It would require a complete deprogramming of their supporters on the scale of Germany in 1945. The problem is that the entire government needs to fall for that to ever even be attempted. It would literally require a revolution or large scale invasion for that to happen at this point, and even then, as we've seen with Russia and Northern Africa quite a few times, revolutions have a tendency to just pave the way for the next lunatic to take power.
In USA, invasion isn't really possible, so it would have to be an incredibly violent and costly (in human lives) revolution, with a slim chance to actually change anything.
An invasion of Russia is probably possible, but it would require some insane inside help to make sure they don't just nuke everything when they realise they've lost anyway. A revolution probably wouldn't do much, because of the brainwashing problem.
Either or both of them dying couldn't hurt.
Soviet Russian succession always takes a power struggle between rivals before things are consolidated.
Vance has the charisma of a turnip.
I can't speak for Putin, but MAGA is a cult of personality. Once HitlerPig assumes room temperature, there will be a vicious battle for leadership, and at least half of the MAGA Morons will drop out without their divine leader to follow. Its very likely they will pivot to making him a religious figure.
The traditional GOP will try to recapture their hegemony over the party, and the Sociopathic Oligarchs will wage a war to keep and expand their influence. They will all try to float a new leader, and we can expect HitlerPig Jr to make a big attempt, but he'll be recieved the same way as Frank Sinatra Jr - with a yawn. Anyone else will be accepted even less.
I hope the battle for control of the party will result in internecine violence, so the Dems can regain power, and use the crimes and violence of the MAGAs to crush them, and purge them from government and society.
I think if that happened, the push against other nations would at least get a reprieve as infighting takes over, especially if Putin bites it.
There are a lot of people who want to be king and they'll all likely have plots to take out their rivals and consolidate power
Any micro organism inside of them has my support.
By the time you're 70/80 years old your thymus has basically just turned into fat cells and can no longer create new T-cells for your immune system. We just need the right microbe to enter.
Die, bitch, die. 🙏
Please someone send this to uplifting news.
I just hope Putin won't be replaced by someone as bad as him.
The entire "ecosystem" of Russian leadership is built around a strongman. If Putin dies, the next one win based on the criteria that made Putin the leader. So there are two options: a big fucking fight, or someone roughly as bad.
And if it's option 2, their level of shittyness depends mostly on how effective Putin was in defenestrating his rivals.
One thing about regimes like Putin's and Trump's is that they actively select against clever and competent people. Because clever and competent people are a threat to Dear Leader's power.
It will be a big fucking fight, simply because that same ecosystem wasn't built with power transition in mind. There's no successor, no committee strong enough to fallback to, no independent power brokers.
The result is pretty much a coin toss, but I wouldn't hold my breath for a better outcome.
Well isn't he surrounded by yes men like all "strong men" are? If you don't stroke putins ego all day every day you go out a window for real.
Fear of the "next guy" is the only reason la'orang is still alive. All of this is the fault of people gearing "what's next". The number of evil people on earth is finite. Even if the next one is worse, there's only one way forward. So just take the win. The number of evil is about to drop by one
Shit in one hand, hope in the other
Hooo! If this is true Russia's in for it. He's been very effective at eliminating any possible successors. Hopefully the nukes stay safe.
Did Zelenskyy say anything about which window Putin will be dropped off?
Oh, geez, we can only hope it's soon.
I always wondered about his health. I've seen state photos of him sitting at the end of a ridiculously long table. People interpreted it as a power move, but it could also be because his immune system is fucked. Not a doc, but I know there's quite a few treatments that end up suppressing the immune system.
Although given the amount of people he's ordered poisoned, I'd want to keep my distance from everyone who might hold a grudge too.
Putin being at the end of the table is probably because he's terrified of being assassinated, but the photos of him at the last Victory Day Parade look terrible. Out of makeup, he looks look a walking corpse.
IIRC the long tables started during COVID.
I hope whatever happens, the world can find some more stability, peace, and freedom soon. This decade will be spoken about for the next couple hundred years at least.
There's no way we have a couple hundred more years on this planet.
I wonder what Trump will do once the puppetmaster has perished.
I remember when this decade started and me and everybody thought if we could just get rid of covid everything will be fine again.
One thing is sure. Zelenskyy will outlive him.
And I hope Putin outlives the Russian Federation.
...and dies as soon as possible, anyway. Preferably before April.
Please stop, I can only get so happy...
Between now and that party day there is still a lot of time for Putin to fuck things over. Be ready.
Also, when Putin dies, who will take over? I can guarantee you that Russia won't be a human loving democracy after he's gone, it'll just be the next dictator who takes over. Putin will make sure his legacy is perfect (because for guys like him, it's all about bullshit like dynasty and legacy) and then place the next Putin but probably worse.
Also, please take trump and the US government with you?
He won't plant anyone as long as his legacy isn't flawless. It will never be.
For now, anyone who could became the next vladelets (🤮) is seen as a threat by Putin, and handled accordingly.
But... Putin was planted by KGB, and KGB/FSB does have a plan for whom to plant.
If Putin dies, a successor might (secretly) align with Ukraine. Something like "If you attack XX, I will remove my troops from ZZ, if you don't attack me. I will be focusing on a bread & butter campaign if I run Russia. Take care of my rivals in the meantime, mm'kay?"
Mind, I would prefer Russia outright being conquered and Marshall Planned into something completely different, but I would accept the other scenario if the outcome could be decent. In this case, Ukraine gets back Crimea and all other territories, plus security guarantees.
Marshall Plan
who would invest in russia? honestly? belarus? it's other parasites?
Considering how Western Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan turned out after their Marshall Plans, I think there is a lot of evidence that reforming and rebuilding a country helps with making them into democratic major powers. I would guess the EU would do it, and Ukraine would want their neighbor to stop being a jackass.
Poland certainly wouldn't want Ukraine to annex Russia, that just means a new rival on their doorstep. Ditto for Turkey, since they are a naval bottleneck, and wouldn't want a Uber Ukraine to get ideas. So on and so forth. A lot of nations would rather a smaller and reformed Russia, than a bigger and hungry Ukraine. Better to foster small but capable democracies that want to be part of the EU bloc.
The EU would. Agains denuclearisation for example and strong pro democratic levers.
No one would just pour money into russia like in the nineties though ofc.
Europe, because being next to a giant (nuclear?) power vacuum is bad. I guess I have to think it would be less than enthusiastic, though, and there'd be a temptation to do the Morganthau plan even though it's a crime against humanity.
That said, there will be no conquering, because of that "nuclear" thing.
It's far more likely that China will take the East back while new Russia is in turmoil. Japan may decide it's time to retrieve the Kuriles and Sakhalin, too. And Siberia is ripe for independence, too. A broken up Russia would be better for the world imho. Obligatory: Fuck Russia. With a cactus. No lube...
I don't think our positions are mutually exclusive. I am thinking Russia in the west getting the Marshall Plan reform treatment would be done, and what you described also happening. That would make it easier for the EU to handle the Russian territory closer to home.
Plus, China tearing off a haunch of Russia might be good for peace in the long run. It would allow Xi Ping to have a victorious legacy, without having to attack Taiwan. The Chinese tiger might sleep while digesting the territory it reclaimed from Russia.
Oh cool everybody loves a Russian power vacuum
What about second Kursk invasion?
No, it's probably worse this time. That wasn't a vacuum so much as two organised coups in quick succession.
Is that like a very tight power bottom?
You mistyped Chinese vassal state
Finally some good news for once
I'm sure the next soulless monster is lined up to take control of the cesspool.
They'll have to fight the other soulless monsters to the front of the line.
This will be a clash between organizations, not between people per se. KGB/FSB will fight other branches of the Russia's junta for whose candidate will get the job.
Here's hoping
One can only hope.
You love to hear it
If CK2 taught me one thing, it's that claim wars automatically end when the claimant dies. As soon as putin keels over all the red flagged armies in Ukraine will go neutral and have to walk back home.
What a great day for the world even if it's shortly celebrated and another piece of shit steps up to rule the piece of shit country
Never know what the future will hold
@Sunshine One can hope.
i read "falling health" right away...cause that seems to be the number one way for ruZZian fuckwitts to die. i bet stairs make him nervous.
The next guy will also suck. At this point it's nerf or nothing for me
The power vacuum will suck, and the next one will suck. But the world will be measurably better once that dictator is dead.
Oh for sure, I am standing hella out of the way of anyone who wants to take a shot at him. I just feel he's only part of a deeper issue with Russia, and I think everyone would be a lot safer if it was balkanized. I doubt we'll be so lucky, it must be said.
A hundred dictators is still better than a hundred and one dictator. When one approached a difficult task, it's better to divide it into smaller tasks.
Instructions unclear, I now have many small pieces of
<select dictator>
on my living room floor.Thanks, gonna save this argument for later 👌
if the next one is one if the loud ones who post on nazi line, theres a good chance they would be more incompetent. but offset by being more unhinged... looking at you Medvedev...
Medvedev won't take the reigns, he's a useful fool, nothing more. Lavrov and Shoigu are my bets.
Oft evil shall evil mar, sometimes that is our only solace.
...does nerf stand for Nuke (the) Entire Russian Federation here?
No. It stands for Non-Expanding Recreational Foam.
Any chance of an orderly and compassionate balkanisation?
Propaganda on repeat..
I have kept a bottle of bubbles in the fridge for one of two possible celebrations for far too long now.
Am I the other one?
I don't drink but maybe I should get a bottle in case one of three people move onto their judgement.