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Trump urges firms to move to US 'now' to avoid tariffs

insiderpaper.com Trump urges firms to move to US 'now' to avoid tariffs

President Donald Trump urged companies on Wednesday to immediately begin relocating to the United States to avoid tariffs, hours after his trade war

“This is a GREAT time to move your COMPANY into the United States of America, like Apple, and so many others, in record numbers, are doing,” Trump posted on his Truth Social platform, promising “ZERO TARIFFS and “no environmental delays.”

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Sure, just let me pick up a whole production plant and import a few thousand workers already trained on my processes. Should be able to get that done by this weekend.
- Also all the material I need I need to build that production plant is under a 104% tariff. NBD.
  
  And if everyone is moving to the USA at the same time, the existing supply lines get overburdened immediately, causing prices of all raw materials to explode until new supply can be developed.
- And ICE will pick up those immigrants by Monday, never to be seen again.
  
  Just build all the factories in El Salvador, then when they have to ship all the Americans back they can each bring a car or something with them to avoid the tariffs.
- By the weekend? You need more than 24 hours for such a simple and straightforward task? Come on bruh? /s
  
  Gotta be "hardcore"!
- It is just Trump theatrics. He is actually trying to collect taxes from Americans through tariffs. It will takes years before the factories start operations.
  
  It would* take years. The factories aren't going to start operations at all.
  
  I think he actually believes this will move manufacturing to the US. He is a moron afterall.
  
  I already changed my tax withholdings. Not giving anything to the federal government. Only state.
- And build a new facility and create new supply routes. So much simpler!
- Actually you had 3 hours to do it before he changed his mind.
  He'll change it again later today.
- Hope he doesn't change his mind and/or get overruled by then. Stable and predictable global markets are sooooo boring.
  Edit: oh.. it took 5 hours since I originally commented.

Come to American so we can deport you to a concentration camp.
- It's ok, our soldiers are like the Nazis, they will treat you with love. /s

So let's consider an extreme situation, based on this exact premise.
Eventually those same companies migrating to the US will become isolated from the rest of the consumer world (EU and rest of Europe, British Commonwealth, China, Mexico and many more) due to tariffs being applied on the US, if not full trade ban in some cases, and be restricted to US and Russian markets... With underperforming products because the US doesn't have the independent production capabilities it thinks it does. Ironically funny.
And that's not even mentioning the internal disadvantages in this whole process, like white supremacy disguised as anti-DEI, having to constantly kiss the ring for a chance at tax exemptions (which are not guaranteed), and selling to a presumably poor consumer base with a few ultra-rich in the mix.
Make it make sense. And make me some popcorn and bring me my 3D glasses, because I sure as hell won't feel sorry for any company falling for this "huge deal". 🤷‍♂️
- Don't forget the lack of qualified workers in a country that just got rid of its department of education.
  
  And any qualified workers you do have could randomly disappear to El Salvador at any moment.
  
  I mean, it is a perfectly legitimate strategy for the proverbial MAGA motto itself. Everything is great if you understand nothing.
- They will just move 1 factory to US but will still have factories outside US that manufacture cheaply for the rest of the world outside US. Some American will buy from overseas while travelling.
  
  The rich and upper middle. Most people can't afford international travel as is. Tariffs and job loss only going to make that worse.

How long does this fuck think it takes to build a pharmaceutical or electronics plant? How you gonna source the materials dumass? Who do you think makes the equipment? You’re asking people to set up manufacturing and support infrastructure overnight, all the logistical integration…This man has a small child’s grasp on all of this shit.
- You just aren't ambitious and distruptive enough, below you can view my excellence plan.
  Do it under tent light. Get a roller, flatten everything real nice. Setup a tent city near a stream so you can pump water in and industrial waste material out. Do it in a red state that will allow cheap child labor. Then hire any desperate people you can find for 50 cents over what the market rate is for unskilled labor to do the complicated stuff. When you make stuff, you shouldn't care if the products are up to specifications or not, that could cost a lot of money to do perfectly. Only accept cash in advance. If some whiny customer tries to sue you, make sure to draw it out until all your current contracts are done. Then just dissolve the "company" pick a new name out of the hat and operate again tomorrow. Have sales people selling in advance under the next companies name. When buying any supplies that won't be regularly needed, always fail to pay them, then tie them up in stupid contract disputes until you Phoenix yourself into a new company.
- See his quote about no environmental delays, we don't just have that stuff made over there because it's cheaper. We also do it because of the environmental fallout from having such plants.
  Also no way will we get Americans to do these jobs. Hell Apple plants hsve to have nets to keep employees from killing themselves. Also don't they have to live at the plant?
  
  Isn't this why Americans are sent to prison? So they can provide free labour?
  
  Hey look, environmental and labor rights issues aside, and not discounting that, if we want to make the United States a manufacturing powerhouse again I’m all for it but it requires actual central planning and investment ala Bernie Sanders, and it’s gonna take ten years.
- Normalize fly by night operations, just not when Chinese nationals do it

Why would someone move a company to a country that is hell-bound to bankrupt itself?
- Well it's not like putting your money in the stock market is a good idea either.

Apple is going to become a US company? This is yuuge!
- It just needs to find a suit and show proper gratification first. No more DEI turtle necks.

Isn't it cheaper to stop doing business with us than to alienate the rest of the world? I mean, it sucks to be in the middle of this, but I have zero confidence that I'm going to survive the next 3 years.
- Yes. Trump doesn't understand that that's an option.
- Personally, I have also already come to terms with my death. Honestly, it is quite liberating in a way. I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

They can't. The ability to get an equipment loan is dead. It will take years to build factories. Longer than the presidential term. When you move fast you break things. In this case they broke the global economy.
- There is still a chance they only broke the American part, might turn out that the global economy doesn't need it. Fingers crossed.
  
  America has the largest and richest consumer base. We are one of the few major economies to have a large population of millennials and gen z.
  Who will Japan, Germany and China sell their shit to? There isn’t a market that can replace the US. The US also simply can’t make everything we like to consume. Which is why we are now headed for recession/stagflation.
  
  It's all connected. Can't just break the American part. The American part is the financing of the non-Amarican parts.

I have this feeling companies will just hunker down and wait it out until the next guy comes into office. While everyone suffer.

Is this man functioning at full capacity? It took over a year to build a chain grocery store in a nearby town and that’s mostly stuff on shelves, not a production line set-up. Time was spent up front as well, in planning and logistics, that I wasn’t able to see, such that the total time to build a chain grocery store took well over a year, maybe two or even three.
Meanwhile, Trump expects “now” for manufacturing.
Never mind the fact that Americans won’t be able to buy products of that manufacturing due to high costs. What was the estimate, that iPhones manufactured here would cost $2k+? Something like that.
- $2300, and that assumes that they can even get the materials.
  China has silently stopped shipping a lot of metals used in high tech applications that it controls 90% of the stock of. The 10%? Our previous trade partners Canada and Australia, who aren't big fans right now.
  
  Not so silently, if you pay attention. There were brief headlines on the No selling to our defense contractors some time ago.
  I’m in Trump time dilation so it’s hard to guesstimate when I read that one.
- Unfortunately, for him this is full capacity, yes.

Fucking delulu.

The stupidest part is that of fucking COURSE there are zero tariffs if you move to the US, because tariffs are BY DEFINITION placed on imports. There’s no limit to the fuckery he can apply to you domestically, it’s just guaranteed not to be called “tariffs”.
- That's all his base needs, a different name. They won't question it further than that.

Please! Do it quick before our economy collapses!

Not like it takes a week to move your production to America.

Oh is that how it works? You just had to tell them? Stfu.

no tariffs but products will still be more expensive (manufacturing cost) than buying the same outside US. So people will still go overseas to buy the substantially cheaper same-product brand.
Why is he begging companies to relocate to US, though? to save face?
- Why is he begging companies to relocate to US, though? to save face?
  To pretend like his tariffs have a goal he wants to achieve that isn't just creating vassal states.

Lmao I’m moving most of my assets to international. Fuck this place. We’re headed for the cumulogranite.

That is the logic of isolationist policies. Whether Trump succeeds or not depends on whether the EU and other trade powers let him succeed. Some industries in the EU are already lobbying against the EU, so it sucks up to Trump. Letting them succeed means letting Trump succeed.

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