In a now deleted tweet, weirdo Azealia Banks shares that "fucking 14 year old girls was really only made a social taboo in the 1990s"
This you post
Reminds me of shit saying I heard when I was 14. "Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed". Even then that was a fucked up thing to say. But I heard it a lot as a teenager. Mostly from other teen boys who didn't know shit about sex.
There’s also “if there’s grass on the field, play ball”
I remember hearing "if there's grass play ball" from fellow kids meanwhile we didn't even have any grass, or any idea what playing ball really entailed. At least those of us who were lucky.
Yeah I could have lived without hearing that from a grown-ass man this month.
Oh, you only heard the short version.
My stepdad and uncle would say that shit all the fucking time.
"si hay pelito, no hay delito" - if there's hair, there's no crime.
"Si pesa más que un pollo, me lo follo" - if it weights more than a chicken, I'm fucking it.
I love that people would think, "Well ... It rhymes so it must be true."
"If It Doesn't Fit, You Must Acquit"
Didn’t she accuse someone of SA when she was underage? Yes, when she was 17, so her comment about girls even younger is insane.
But that gets to the heart of Azealia Banks. She’s insane. She’s part of the lgbtq+ community and her sibling is trans, but she supports JK Rawlings and belittles trans women and has likened the lgbtq community to the KKK.
She believes that African Americans should be paid reparations for the crime of slavery, which zero republicans would ever grant.
She flip flopped her endorsement of Trump in 2016. Despite saying women’s issues were too important to vote for him, she celebrated his win. She then did the same basic thing in 2025, but for who knows what reasons.
She’s pro Russia as hell as well as a Zionist.
I’m not sure how we get it to happen, but she needs to put up her brain for scientific studies. The neurons are firing in ways rarely seen in humans.
https://www.reddit.com/r/agedlikemilk/comments/1macphs/comment/n5dqgn6/
Her ability to find the most wrong take possible on just about everything is genuinely unearthly. You could generally set a pretty reliable moral compass for yourself by just adopting the exact opposite of her beliefs.
it's pretty easy. just change the question to "what will enrage the most people and thus get me the most engagement in order to remain relevant?"
then all her takes make sense.
Even if you bent over backwards to agree with this tweet, just look at the facts of the Epstein case. These girls were sex trafficked. Epstein and Maxwell sought out vulnerable girls and took advantage of them. They were not girls in a traditional mindset trying to find a husband and have kids.
Exactly. Trafficked and trapped. For whatever reason the originator of the tweet chose to do what she did it’s not the same as being carted off to an island full of pedos with no safe place to escape to.
Which the poster definitely knows.
When you try to suggest that something is normal based upon your own experience, but everyone just looks at you with concern and pity in their eyes.
Like, yes girl, I was absolutely raped at 14 too, and we both need therapy!
Exactly. It’s a trauma response. Sweeping it under the rug. My parents beat me when I was a child and I turned out fine.
WTF? No, Ms. Banks, I was a teen in the 80s and no, my friends were not doing 40 year olds, eeeew. That was still called Statutory Rape. Girl, you are 34, do you find 14 year old boys attractive? I thought not. Those are children.
Don't be too sure. She started out "in Trump's defense", FFS.
She's right about one thing. This shit was prolific back in the sixties, seventies and eighties. Operation Yewtree blew the lid on just how rife paedophilia was amongst celebrities and how the (British) establishment had been covering it up for decades.
The Epstein files should have been a similar watershed moment for the US, but unfortunately some very powerful people are on that list.
Exactly. I didn't even hear the word "paedophile" until 2000 when Sarah Payne was murdered.
In school in the 90s there were always 13 and 14 year old girls with older boyfriends, like we're talking 19 or 20 with cars and they could buy them cigarettes and booze.
We never really thought much of it.
They had very much made this shit normal, and I'm glad we now don't.
Which schools did you go to? I never heard of this. Maybe im a little younger and that's it. Maybe it's an England/USA thing. I was 16 in 2000.
Also the shift of the acceptable age range of a romeo/Juliette situation is a little different from a bunch of 40+ yo rich guys shipping some tweens to a remote island for any reason.
I remember in school in the 2000s 13 and 14 year old with 19 or 20 year old boyfriends. I bet many still do today but I don't hang out with 13 or 14 year olds at my age to know of the few that do.
Until a few years ago, the age of consent in my country was 14. There weren't just 13 and 14 year olds with 19 or 20 year old boyfriends, even 14 and 25-27 was a pretty common combo. Guy I went to middle school with was such an immature dumbass, he HAD to work 14 year olds to get laid at 19. Because a 15 year old would see through him already. Think he's changed now, but of course he had to father a child with a 15 year old first.
But this isn't the 80s or 90s. No, I grew up in the '00s and '10s. This is my experience with my peers in late 00s and even early 10s.
I don't know any teenagers anymore, but there's a podcast about sex and standup comedy (they wanna talk about standup comedy since they're both comedians, but since they named it "pussy eaters", they only get emails about sex) and holy hell, one girl out of every 4 seems hell-bent on talking about how they lost their virginity as a teenager to an older guy. Another girl out of every four is talking about how she either got raped or almost got raped (as an adult usually, not that it makes things much better). They just stopped reading emails from their listeners.
Pedophiles are attracted to children before they hit puberty. If you try to fuck fourteen year olds you are a weird fucking creep (and probably a republican). But you are not a pedophile. You're watering down the word.
Edit: Why the hate?!
No idea who this is, but they have a lot to unpack in therapy. 15 year olds don't seduce adults...
I hate to tell you, but you and your grandmother's trauma are valid, and not at all okay. The fact that they are trying to rationalize it tells me they know on some level that what happened wasn't okay. Its a defense mechanism.
The 15 year old seducing adults was probably abused themselves
Yeah, thats kind of the point of my comment.
Well they shouldn't successfully be seducing adults, but some will try.
Back in college at my place of work you'd have the high school freshman customers coming in and hitting on the college guys, pretty hard. Of course it would have been shameful to actually roll with it because what are you, some loser that can't get a real college girl?
Also I recall my classmates in junior high and high school trying to flirt with some of the teachers. And of course you have the "get good grades from the professor" trope for college, which technically are adults but the power dynamic and creepiness is the same.
15 year olds aren't exactly thinking well enough but they certainly have the hormones going.
I'm starting to get a vibe of: "I didn't understand consent when I was that age and had sex and no one did anything, why should we now?"
By even debating this idea of 'at what age is having sex with children OK', you fall into the trap. We already have laws defining age of consent for a reason.
The trap is to distract you from trump's sex crimes. They need to normalize statutory rape as acceptable, because more and more stuff is going to be coming out about his doing that. His base is horrified by pedophilia, but not by misogyny.
This is how they prep the base to be just fine with crimes trump did (in this case rape) when more info comes out. Keep their thinking in black-and-white: 'pedophilia is evil, but trump didn't do that, so he's not evil! He's still our Daddy.' So they'll ignore his rapes of under-age girls just like they already ignore his rapes of adult women. So by saying,
"Sure, why wouldn't anyone be attracted to a girl whose body is developed even if she's 'technically' under age -- it's not like it's pedophilia or anything, which would be wrong!". As long as they're 13+ it's fine!"
they are saying statutory rape is OK as long as the girl is at least 13. No, that's just how the new Christian Nationalist theocracy wants it to be. The crap about "it was acceptable back in his day, only taboo since the '90's" is of course bullshit. I'm surprised they didn't claim it was only made taboo by the 'woke left'.
We already have laws defining age of consent for a reason.
And it probably me moved upward anyway.
A lot of time people comment on their own life as a youth, not really understanding the fucked up parts were in fact, fucked up.
I didn't know that the insane shit my parents put me through wasn't normal life for everybody else. Took me well into my 20's to figure it out and even though I'm 50, I am still re-discovering memories that remind me just how fucked-up my life was back then. Re-connecting with my sister after 2 decades of estrangement due to family dysfunction and addiction, new realizations are still unfolding for me.
I think you've hit the nail in the head, she's self-reporting what her life was like as a teenager but it hasn't yet clicked just how fucked up it all was
When you tell a story from your childhood you think will get a huge laugh, only to be met with a room full of horrified and concerned faces.
Been there, it gets way better. And kudos for reconneing with sane family!
Cheers
Growing up in a state where the legal age was 18, we heard "16'll get you 20" back in the 70s and 80s.
So no idea where this nonsense about the 90s started.
Prolly she grew up in the 90's, fucking older men, and only later has had people go "oh that doesn't sound healthy" and presumes that there just was no judgement at all from anyone when she was actually doing it, just because she didn't witness any personally.
Presumably.
In California, the age of consent was 18 by 1920. In the 1960s and 1970s when I became sexually active, almost nobody I knew was 18 or over at the time of their first sexual experience. It was a widely-ignored law, selectively enforced. When I was under 18, most of my partners were of similar age (and on the Pill).
In the 1880s, the age of consent in California was 10. That was typical for most states in that era. The increase to 18 was driven by the same odd alliance of progressive eugenicists and Christian reactionaries who brought us Prohibition.
The widespread belief in the US that two 17-year-olds having a screw should be subject to prosecution seems insanely punitive and contrary to human nature.
It's 16 in the UK, which in my view makes better sense. All of the EU countries set the age of consent somewhere in the 14-16 range.
When I was under 18, most of my partners were of similar age (and on the Pill).
Lots of places have romeo and juliet clauses for this. I.e when it's two 16 year olds, it's fine. If it's 16 and 25, it's not.
It’s 16 in the UK, which in my view makes better sense. All of the EU countries set the age of consent somewhere in the 14-16 range.
16 is bordering fine, but anything below that is too low IMO. Again, the so called romeo and juliet laws are important here. It means that even if the age of consent is 18, teenagers can still do it among themselves and if you're 15 and your 17 year old partner suddenly turns 18, that usually isn't a big deal either. Let's protect teenagers from grown ass adults, but let them sleep with each other because that's going to happen anyway, teenagers are crazy filled with hormones - so they should be able to get contraceptives and stuff without any worry of legal repercussions if anyone finds out.
The startling part for me, having grown up in an 18 state, is that the majority of US states are 16.
When I heard that for the first time I was like "Oh, that can't be right..."
Yup. 30 states = 16, 8 states = 17, 12 states = 18.
Azealia Amanda Banks was born on May 31, 1991, in New York City's Manhattan borough; she was the youngest of three.[5][6] Her single mother raised her and her two siblings in Harlem, after their father died of pancreatic cancer when she was two years old.[7] Following her father's death, Banks says that her mother "became really abusive—physically and verbally. Like she would hit me and my sisters with baseball bats, bang our heads up against walls, and she would always tell me I was ugly. I remember once she threw out all the food in the fridge, just so we wouldn't have anything to eat." Due to escalating violence, Banks moved out of her mother's home at age 14 to live with her older sister.[8]
At a young age, Banks became interested in musical theater, dancing, acting, and singing. At 16, she starred in a production of the comedy-noir musical City of Angels, where she was found by an agent who sent her to auditions for TBS, Nickelodeon, and Law & Order, all without success.[9] At this point Banks decided to end her pursuit of an acting career, citing the stiff competition and overall sense of nonfulfillment.[10] Because of this lack of fulfillment, she began writing rap and R&B songs as a creative outlet. She never finished high school, instead choosing to embark on a career as a recording artist.[5]
Ok, so she got her start fucking her way into roles and doesn't want to admit that it was wrong. This is where a lot of those Epstein Island kids end up. That's why you don't hear as many testimonials as you think you should. They got gaslighted into thinking it was normal.
If she was having sex with people to get roles at 15 or 16, that makes her a victim with a vulnerable background exploited by people with power and opportunities.
You're acting like a teenager with no real world experience made a plan to climb the career ladder using sex is more likely than a child without stable future job prospects was groomed by pedophile entertainment industry producers, exploited, and happened to be one of the lucky ones that had a career at the end of it.
Literal fatherless behavior. It's sad.
If there isn't actual evidence that someone used sexual favors to get where they are, that's honestly a pretty sexist assumption to make about a person, since it's an assumption only ever made of those who were AFAB
Edit: I'm too tired. She admitted it in the OOP
Don't feel bad, I'm bad about skimming without really realizing I'm doing it and that was like the one sentence I auto piloted over first time reading it. I was like "yeah that's a weird thing to say but, that's a stretch to say this means that." Then I reread and was like "oh. Oh my."
Simply because it was the norm it doesn't mean it's right. Pederasty was definitely a thing, but a Jewish historian who lived in the Roman era said the children clearly do not like it. And grim as it will sound, there are plenty of children in South East Asia abused by Western sexpats. You can definitely see how distraught the children are while the pedophile walks proudly with his chest high.
a Jewish historian who lived in the Roman era said the children clearly do not like it.
Do you happen to have the actual quote or a link to the whole thing? Id quite like to read this
I could not find it but i read it in Reddit AskHistorians many years ago. I am afraid to search further as I could get flagged 😂 Fwiw, if I remember correctly, I think the name of the Jewish historian is Josephus. But the only reference from the Internet I could find about him and his comment on pederasty/pedophilia is from here https://voice.dts.edu/review/philo-josephus-and-the-testaments-on-sexuality-attitudes-towards-sexuality-in-the-writings-of-philo-and-josephus-and-in-the-testaments-of-the-twelve-patriarchs/
My great-grandmother, who was born in 1910, may have gotten married at 13 (iirc her husband was 17-18 at the time) and had my grandmother when she was 14... but that's doesn't make it "right" that she was a teen mother. She married young to get out of an abusive home life and that was her only way out at the time.
Wow, and here I thought I liked her music. Not anymore, jesus christ what a creep.
Worst part is, I largely feel bad for her. This is the cycle of abuse at work. This woman needs help she'll probably never accept.
It sounds like she thinks it's ok because she was abused the same way. Perhaps she deleted it because she learned it was abuse? Just wild speculation
Yeah that tweet reads as someone who genuinely doesn't understand that her experiences were abuse and not common.
We can only hope ❤️
we be looking very heavy metal and reflective
I'm not sure who this is but the only thing I know about her right now is that she's okay with pedophiles.
She's a successful rap artist who's made some of the biggest songs of the past decade, but also happens to be a deranged person with some extremely toxic beliefs. I'm not really surprised at her antics, and in this case it makes me believe she was sexually abused as a teenager but she has normalized and rationalized her abuse in her head
I'm like you. I don't know who she is. But she has been forced into my feed.
Like when known racist Conner McGregor sends her dick picks. https://www.aol.com/conor-mcgregor-leaked-x-rated-003442730.html?guccounter=1
It's not that social norms have changed. What happens is individual people don't realize how fucked up predators are until they get older. If you observe something as a teen and are told it's "creepy" and "gross," that's all you think it is. But then you get older and realize that it's actually much more sinister than that. There's manipulation, there are systemic injustices that enable it, there are people who don't know how to spot abused kids or feel like they can't upset the apple cart without throwing their own lives away.
It's like saying nobody understood algebra until YOU took an algebra class.
I'm wondering if her grandmother, who had her first child when she was 12, was happy about it. Never hoped for change. Was not embracing social change when it happend. Like people don't regret some of their choices when they were teens.
That math doesn't hold up at all unless azalea is like pushing 70 or something. Maybe her mom had her at like 45? I'm 40 and my grandparents weren't even born until the late 30s. And that's without child pregnancies.
Agreed. But I doubt it was much of a choice for her in the 1920s which makes it so much worse. Does she really want to go back to those times?
I was just talking to my wife about how MAGA will find some way to justify trump being a pedophile. They already try to justify rape.... and then i read this.
Times have changed, that's for sure. There are still huge, successful rock acts that are known to have engaged in that. I'm not excusing any of it but it was normalized, and to a degree we overlook it with varying levels of cognitive dissonance. My 16 year old prom date in 1990 went with me as friends because her boyfriend was 29 with the full blessing of her parents. Child porn wasn't illegal until 5 years after I was born.
But also I look back on those times and see so many girls with what today would be clearly seen as signs of abuse (including my prom date). It was always wrong. It was always harmful.
That's absolutely bizarre.
Also, there's a lot of lyrics in older rock music that haven't aged well, to say the least. Kinda disappointing actually.
Real wild for these mental ill people to tell you about the rape they normalized in their everyday life.
I just want everyone to be aware that healthy, well-adjusted teenage girls do not make a habit of seducing 40yo men. This woman was molested as a child, uses promiscuity as an attempt to "regain control", creates justifications rather than addressing her trauma, and projects her twisted attitudes toward sex onto the rest of society.
What the actual F. Are these people real?
Yes. People talk about how hard fascism is to define but I'd argue it can always be identified by the bootlicking subservience of intellect and ethical reasoning to the whims of Dear Leader.
I'd wager that's just authoritative types and not fascists specifically. You can have an authoritarian fascist but bootlicking and subservience is a response to hierarchy and the social pressure to fall in line. While thinking critically with intellectual and ethical reasoning is always outside the desire of hierarchy enshrined in the status quo. Authority will always encourage sycophants.
That definition can cover quite a few autocratic or authorian systems like monarchy as an example. Facism isn't super hard to define if you know what to look for it's just the rubric always seems over the top and hyperbolic when applied contemporarily until whatever regime is being painted with the brush starts emulating Nazis on a 1:1 basis. The people who saw it coming from 10 years ago and ringing alarm bells were seeing fascist rhetoric back then and they weren't wrong it's just people don't veiw facism as being anything but it's worst fully realized iteration.
The easiest guage is to see how much Nationalist sentiment there is paired with calls to return to a mythical golden age, populist rhetoric surrounding a figure with authoritarian sentiments, scapegoating of groups of "outsiders" vs a "rightful inheritor" narrative and active erosion of democratic structures.
You have an absolute hard-on for calling people fascist, don't you? It's quite bizarre.
JFC
Wow, what a fucking loser creep. Stay away from all children please.
She hasn't been popular in years. I don't think anybody wants to go near her.
The right is foaming at the mouthh with hate. They are so deadest on hating groups that they're defending pedophilia (something that harms children) because they want to protect children.
They don't want to protect anyone. They want to own their children.
This is Kanye-level rage baiting
Its not, she's just braindead. She has put so many bad takes on social media over the years and this is just the latest doozy.
She's previously accused music producer Diplo of sexually coercing her during the time they worked together when she was 17 years old, she said he was "someone that should be cancelled in the music industry". That was on Instagram in 2023. Now, this.
She's also said Sweden is a racist country and said it should "get bombed" a couple years back. Earlier this year... she moved to Sweden.
She's not rage-baiting, she's just dumb.
I think people use the term ragebait a little differently nowadays. It used to imply someone faking, but now it just means something that makes you angry. Or maybe I'm reading too far into things, but it's a trend I feel like I've noticed.
It's genuinely impossible to tell these days. Nothing is off limits for clout-chasers, so the false assault allegations could just be part of the attention scheme
Does immigration services just not check peoples tweets? Oh wait, it's Sweden, if you say you want to bomb them they give you a green card.
Social media has gotten people to think the most awful things without any hint of irony.
Oh no, my friend, she believed that fucked up shit long before social media. It's the classic language of someone who grew up in a horrible environment.
love how the reaction is to condemn the victim ☹️
So basically: "Yeah, he was raping 14 year olds, it's no big deal. Everyone was doing it."
i actually looked that up and found that the median age of giving birth to your first child was around 21 or 22.
that was largely dependent on wealth though. the wealthier you were, the sooner you had children. that's why most nobles gave birth first around 14 or sth.
I may have been a little kid in the '80s, but I don't remember Jr High being an acceptable part of the general dating pool. I also don't remember any major changes in the '90s to how acceptable relationships between adults and teenagers were.
It is one thing for a perverted man to say this, but for a woman to say this so she can get some fake maga points is just disgusting.
Pickmes are the WORST
What about when it's your 13yo daughter getting railed by a 40yo man? Let's see how you feel about that.
Then why was it illegal even back then?
10 states have a minimum marrying age of 17; 20 states have a minimum age of 16; two states have a minimum age of 15; and four states don’t have a minimum age specified at all.
So it's not really illegal. You just need to be married first.
Marriage doesn't change age of consent.
He didn't marry any of them.
I'm not going to bother to explore what the pre-2018 laws were, but even for a lot of the laws where underage people are still allowed to marry, 14 is still younger than age of marriage in general.
And this is separate from age of consent. The four states that have no specified minimum marriage age have age of consent at 16 or 18, so technically you can be married but not having sex. Being a child spouse even without the sex part is screwed up, so it's a somewhat related, but different concern to this discussion.
Incidentally 'technically' is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. Someone under the age of 18 needs at least parental approval in those four states, and even in the worst of those cases if someone is under 15, a judge has to get involved and explicitly approve the marriage as well as parents. So again, a 14 year old getting married? In theory possible but unlikely even in the few states where it is technically legal.
In short, yes, it was broadly illegal, with some states giving green light at 16, and under more select circumstances earlier (I see the wikipedia table goes as low as '13' 'by age', but unrestricted only goes down to 16. I don't quite understand what the 'by age' and 'by authority' columns even mean, but I'll assume 'unrestricted' is at least where you don't need to find a weird loophole.
Wasn't he doing this in the 90s?
those were the times
I hope he feels the same about TSA pegging. Saying this in that context got him on a watchlist.
To the americans in the thread, I'm sorry to break it to you, but your entertainment industry fosters this kind of behaviour. The beauty pageants, the sexualisation of every young female singer, the obsession with high school movies, the fact that roles in movies have a much younger woman depicting an older character, your pop singers being all very close to being too young and singing about sex, it's everywhere. You're made to think that youth is a sexy thing. It seems Hollywood is full of vampires. I'd go as far as to say that this is a problem with your culture in general. I have never seen this kind of behaviour anywhere else that wasn't already influenced by american media. I'm sorry.
edit: spelling
I take your point about the influence media has but this is not unique to America.
Predation on underage girls and boys is global. Paedophiles don’t restrict themselves to national borders.
Sexualizing nudity is another big one.
Girl, no, we practically share a date of birth, and I remember distinctly that 18 has always been the age of consent, including many places outside the US. I was shocked to find out some places had lower legal limits.
The age of consent in your state may surprise you then. It is 16 for most of them. I grew up in Canada, and it was 14 until 2009, and is 16 now. As a father of teenagers, I've noted that age of consent is a double-edged sword, "protecting the children" not only from would-be sexual predators, but also from themselves when they choose to express their gender differently. Because what it really is, is an age of asserting bodily autonomy. Whether I like it or not, there comes an age when my teens should have a right to do whatever they want with their own bodies. In my opinion, it's fine to pick an age to be a legal guideline for when a person is incapable of asserting their own rights, but we should immediately defer to the choice of an individual whenever a person is old enough to demand it.
Her grandma's time also had polio, that doesn't mean it would be okay for it to happen again now.
Polio was better back then, bro.
Oh excuse me, I forgot about the value of bespoke artisanal viruses.
I think that back then, people defined pedophilia in terms of the perpetrator's attraction, not in terms of impact to the victim. Essentially, "is it weird for the adult to be attracted to their body?" more than, "would the young person be harmed, physically or emotionally, by sex?" Now we are more evolved.
Back when I was a kid, pedophilia meant what she said - attraction to a prepubescent child. If someone was an adult who thought a physically developed 15-year-old was sexy, that was just logical. Because their bodies had secondary sex characteristics. (It wasn't considered a good idea to actually have sex with them, at least from what I could see. Maybe in Azalia's experience it was considered OK.)
But if an adult thought that a flat and hairless child was attractive, that was messed up on their part. The same way people think that furries or scat play or other fetishes were messed up. But even more so. There was just nothing to consider sexy about an actual child.
Now, we consider the impact to the victim. Pedophilia is defined as attraction to a victim under the age of consent. Because their brain is not fully developed, their body can't handle pregnancy, they are socially able to be manipulated, and a host of other reasons.
I am not trying to be accused of being an apologist, but from someone who grew up in the 90s, I find it strange that we use the same word for someone who rapes a toddler, as someone who "statutory rapes" (as it would be called) a 15-year-old. They are both wrong, but it seems to me that one is much worse than the other. Both because of the attraction (or I guess power fantasy) on the part of the adult, and the impact to the victim.
I think Azalia is wrong to say it was always totally fine. But she is right that it was considered right or wrong for a different reason back then. The definition was different.
I was born in 1975. I don't care how you want to frame it, over 20 people having sex with 15 years olds were considered pedophiles in the 90's. We would even "joking" ask our friends if they had their pedo-pass with them if they smooched with someone 2 years younger.
Pedophilia is defined as attraction to a victim under the age of consent.
No age of consent varies from place to place. Pedo is a medical term with a precise meaning that doesn't vary from jurisdiction and carries the same definition you originally listed.
We impose restrictions both legally, ethically, morally and socially beyond the minimum has has hair and boobs because we care about people being emotionally healthy first with legal penalties and then social ones.
In many places a 40 year old could interact with a 17-18 year old legally without going to jail but would experience shame social consequences and friction designed to encourage people not to be assholes.
Sometimes this even works.
Technically there's a distinct word for prepubescent and pubescent attraction, just day to day it doesn't make sense to talk about the nuance because someone will mistake nuance for some sort of green light.
Back when I was a kid, pedophilia meant what she said - attraction to a prepubescent child. If someone was an adult who thought a physically developed 15-year-old was sexy, that was just logical.
Was this the 1890's? I was born in '82, and I can't think of a single time someone was like "oh an adult and a 15 year old child? Yeah that's okay."
I find it strange that we use the same word for someone who rapes a toddler, as someone who “statutory rapes” (as it would be called) a 15-year-old. They are both wrong, but it seems to me that one is much worse than the other. Both because of the attraction (or I guess power fantasy) on the part of the adult, and the impact to the victim.
This is straight priori falacy. Why the fuck are you arguing the 'degrees of okay-ness' for sex with children. This is fucking baffling.
Thinking one thing is worse doesn't mean you endorse anything else.
Saying, "Both these things are bad, and one is worse," is not the same as saying, "One of these things is more okay than the other." Neither one is okay.
If we cannot compare bad things without that comparison implying, "one of them is more GOOD than the other," then all bad things are equally bad. If I said that committing pedophilia is worse than beating your wife, am I now saying that beating your wife is better? What about stealing from the cash register at work, or jaywalking? Are all bad things just equally bad, with no comparison possible, or else we're praising the virtues of crime?
To your first point, in that sentence I wasn't talking about actually dating or having sex with the 15 year old. I was talking about looking at them, and thinking they are attractive. So no, nobody would say that the "relationship" was okay, but they wouldn't roundly condemn someone for being attracted to them, or having the urge to look at them sexually, in their own head.
It used to be relatively acceptable to say something like, "Man, I sure think that 15 year old looks hot, but of course I won't go anywhere near her, because she is too young," but never, ever, to say the same about a 5 year old. That first sentiment is the basis of many distasteful songs and jokes and movies. The second one would be met with confusion and revulsion for even thinking it.
And once again, I am not saying that is right. I am just saying how attitudes have changed. For the better. Now we say that even looking at a teenager is wrong. That looking at their body is as bad as looking at a very young child's body. Because in both cases, it's not how messed-up you are in the head to even think about it. It's about how it would harm them to go through with it. And that's a better attitude.
A girl having a child at 12 is different when the dad is say... anywhere from 12-15 vs when the dad is 40.
This is that lady who killed so many chickens in her hallway closet in the name of "witchcraft" that she had to use a sander to get the dried blood and offal out of the floorboards.
Given the number of chickens we slaughter in the US, this is a drop in the ocean.
Can't they both be fucked up?
There's a difference between the slaughter of animals for food, where it's a heavily regulated process by the USDA to ensure it's as safe, sanitary and humane as possible, and done for a reasonable purpose (feeding people) vs just killing chickens in your home because you think it'll enable you to perform magic
Man she us all over the place with ages there.
14
12
15
15
15
10 (Too young)
13
How many times do you think they thought about what age they were comfortable going down to when the right answer was none of this?
This is literally how 4chan’s /pol/ has been coping with this.
These are apparently all 14-16 year olds who were looking for social advancement, so this is all okay.
Throughout her career, Banks's social media presence and outspoken views, especially on U.S. politics and race, as well as disputes with other artists, have attracted significant controversy. Banks has been accused of homophobia, transphobia, and xenophobia towards multiple nationalities. Complex noted in 2014 that "she gets more attention for her public feuds than she does for her music".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azealia_Banks
it sounds like the controversy and negative attention is the point, and this post just further rewards the behavior
outrage is its own reward for some
So she thinks being a 15 yr old horning on 40 yr olds because of daddy issues is the same as 60+ yr olds raping kids being ‘given to them’ by another 40 yr old stranded out on an island?
The fuck ? this person needs to be held in a padded room away from children please. And please slap the drugs out of her dumb face. She’s fucking cooked enough.
Yeah, as societies we don't tend to ban things that nobody does. Civilized societies have banned sex with underaged people because it's harmful for the kids and because people are driven to do it.
Ah yes, the “things were worse in the past and we’re still here, so it should be worse now too” argument.
It’s a conservative favorite to justify fucking kids, fucking over minorities and women, and generally seeking to ruin the people you were told to hate.
Quick! Get her a Spot on Fox News!
-People who believe Pizzagate!
She's too chaotic to stay on point.
She's at Kanye West level of insanity.
This bitch needs medication.
Lie down on the couch. (What does that mean?!)
Wacky cunt.
I was going to make a comment that it depends on location, but then I pulled up the state for Nicaragua and even over there women are only giving birth in any significant numbers after 16-17. So yea maybe not significantly. Dude's weird
Age of consent is 18 in Iraq. There was a movement to lower it recently and it got shut down hard.
And these fucking people try to justify 14 in US.
Azealia Banks is a woman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azealia_Banks
But I agree she is weird.
I'm a dude. He's a dude. She's a dude. We're all dudes, hey.
Oh man. It is that azealia banks... Wtf?
I used to enjoy some of her stuff but had no idea she was so unhinged
Edit - looking more into it, it looks like she was raped as a teenager. While it in no way excuses her comments, that sort of early psychological damage really doesn't help form a healthy relationship with sex without style serious work.
"Dude" can refer to women too: https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/282694/is-dude-becoming-gender-neutral
And so she doesn’t have a problem with him lying about it for the votes…
This person is high on stupid.
If it had been just the first paragraph, you could argue it's satire. It's just so absurd.
That is what a DAESH person thinks: all women are chattel, regardless of the age as long as the menfolk are pleased.
Future generations treating past generations with disdain is kind of the whole point of social progress. Slavery has only been a social taboo in the last couple centuries max. Women's equal political rights are even more recent, only about 100 years. LGBT rights are barely a generation old. So wtf is this argument? It's logical extension is "infant exposure is OK, the Romans did it just fine"
Truly spoken as someone who obviously never had the misfortune of crossing the path of a pedophile in her life.
Azealia: you're cute and all, but kindly go fuck yourself.
Not everyone reaches their peak at 13 like you do. Most need some time to mature before understanding the difference between what they're into, and what the raging hormones in their body are just compeling them to do. That's why these laws exist, because 13 year olds don't know what they want, and predators can easily con them into believing it's them. Because predators aren't all exclusively 40 year olds with visible red flags.
Azealia Banks was born in 1991 ...
What the fuck did I just read?
Azealia Amanda Banks is an American rapper
That explains everything.
There are plenty of sane ones, they just don't make the news all the time because mainstream American news runs on outrage and just well, plain old rage.
As an old guy I can say this is true. It was no big deal back then as people matured more quickly. My wife was already raising her younger brothers by that age. Cooking dinners, cleaning the barns, looking after things for a week while they traveled. People now don't seem to mature until they are in their twenties. If ever.
Myself and many others were doing those things when we were 14 too. It doesn't mean we should have been fucking grown adults. Those adults would have been taking advantage of us. It was the same back in your day. The dudes getting with teenagers by buying them alcohol and cigarettes were creeps. Regardless of how "accepted" it was back then.
You need to have your hard drive raided
Lol..I never said it was good. I said it was accepted far more then
Locking this post because there is a lot weird shit and reports coming from it.