This is getting laughably ridiculous

That is a lawsuit.

b-but how are they going to protect us minors
\ from the evil NVIDIA app?!
\
\ serious talk tho the overreach was unsurprising

I don’t use that shitty application. Just use Nvidia Inspector and Nvidia Control Panel. That application is data collection spyware.

I don't use that shitty application. Just use Linux.
- If there are Linux applications that aren't complete janky shit, I'll switch.
  I need a multitrack DAW recorder that understands older and newer audio interfaces and a good multi-camera video editor.
- I’ll switch to Linux when there isn’t a performance trade off for using an Nvidia GPU.

How the fuck does this protect kids? Adjusting graphics settings? Why not bar them from adjusting volume while they're at it.

Some of those graphics might be showing boobies. Obviously this must be regulated.
- No it is not. Dont be a fucking ridiculous idiot.
  Nvidia app is DEI woke. Gotta protect the kids.
wow, wow there. no loud music after 8. If the nightstand mic doesn't pick up the nightly potus prayer, your front door is getting bust open
- You are in violation of the Community Guidelines due to not marking the comment "NSFW".
  Of course we are not going to tell you why, but you get 1 strike.
  /s

They are denying us the power of the digital age, taking it for themselves.

Lol good luck, the entire thing that makes it so powerful is the collective

You can download the Nvidia driver directly from their website

People who care about privacy wouldn’t use the Nvidia app. (And wouldn’t be on Windows)

Yeah, but Nvidia Cards on Linux are "fun". Fuck Nvidia
- They have worked for a while now. They just aren’t as good as AMD cards but that’s true on all platforms

So it sounds like the wall was written to police more than just porn sites? Or is this companies doing this to harvest your data?

It's to prevent autonomous agency. It's to prevent people from having privacy and individuality end of discussion. The last system like this was under the gestapo and secret police under Hitlers regime.

gen z is pushing 30 btw

For the curious 1997-2012 28-13
This happens all the time. I still see what I call boomers (likely younger than actual boomers) call gen z millennials constantly. The oldest millennials are like mid 40s but in the popular imagination we are still kids in our 20s. It’s like society is 10-15 years behind almost
feels so grimm

NVCleanInstall lets you install NVidia drivers without using their GeForce Experience software

This is why you Linux, point blank.

Linux beginners and Nvidia cards aren't really a good mix in all fairness
- That's because people don't really learn which operating systems work well for NVIDIA drivers. I'd recommend Mint, Pop_OS!, Nobara Project and CachyOS based upon their experience with computers. Those all work well with NVIDIA.
~~On Linux you have no official GUI companion app for your graphics card from NVIDIA AFAIK.~~
- On X11 you do (I think some distros ship it). Otherwise, that's not necessarily the case on Wayland.
- nvidia-settings is official
nvidia drivers in linux can be a monumental mess
- Just don't use a monitor that's DRM'd for Windows only. I made that mistake with an FI27Q-SA (AORUS monitor) once, and that was a $600 US waste.
- That certainly was the case for a long time. I've haven't had any issues for 5+ years. Devs made it a priority.
Nvidia is still closed source, even on Linux...
- They did release Open Kernel drivers, which I hadn't tested. Those are the "open-source" drivers. Sure, their firmware could be proprietary (though I didn't see any issues with it).
- Use the nouveau drivers of course
Does the Linux build of GeForce experience not do this, because if it does then it's still a problem
- We don't have geforce experience on Linux (afaik). Ubuntu has a built in "proprietary drivers" app that just pulls the Nvidia drivers for you on first boot after install. Very low effort (on the happy path at least. If you use unsupported/brand new cards, you're probably going to have a much less fun time)

This is why I am AMD fanboy

This is why I wish I was AMD fanboy :((

Boomers will also get locked out of a lot of content because verifying their age is too complicated. I feel no sympathy.

They did the thing they were supposed to do. They voted for the Ultra-Far Left Woke Labour Party.
- Labour hasn't been anywhere near the left since Tory Blair became leader, he grew up a Tory supporter, failed to get in as a Tory politician so decide on transforming Labour into the neo-Tory party which he was successful at, not that Labour before hand was the friend of the average worker or the poor but at least they were better, now they are hostile to the working class and the poor 😞
- Dumb take, here take my downvote.
- Labour are far left are they. I feel your political compass is somewhat misconfigured.
- Shh

Zoomers need to learn they don't need to use Nvidia's app for this. Just download the driver directly.

Not adjusting settings, but definitely auto updates which require a login and they've been adding more and more things that require an account so they can track you.

Literally nothing about their software should require a login.
It's asinine
All of these people are future linux enjoyers, they just don't know it yet.
The trend has accelerated this year, corpos are data mining and they want to court proof data against you.
It has been at least 10 years coming but it is now very clear for what they are going for here.
Between Israeli genocide and pedos within the power structure, the anti resime sentiment is growing too strong and it seems for once, fake news can't change the narrative.
We are heading into the future where we won't be able to criticize genocide or pedophiles.
- Unfortunately it actually just means less computer literacy. If you can't use a computer you just stay on your phone.

You can on Linux just saying

It's like people are just now noticing that they have zero ability to control their own digital lives because they traded it all away in order to not have to take the time to learn how to do things for themselves.
- not trying to be rude, but it’s easy to get tunnel vision especially with tech spaces. before becoming involved in tech i had no idea that linux was even a thing. most of these people need education, they just didn’t know their options. they didn’t “choose” to throw away their rights because they didn’t know they had a choice.
- We all need to make what we know freely available in a friendly manner to make the path to Linux easier and more fun.

This seems like it can be easily avoided by just downloading the drivers without using the nvidia app.

Are you actually able to do that now? You used to not be able to or they were sufficiently hidden.
- You can just use the manual search tool on nvidia to find your driver. My understanding is the 9 & 10 series support is going to end soon.
  https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/
  When you run the installer you have a choice to install their app or not.
- They’ve never been hidden. You just go to the website, put in your model and download it. There’s apps that do it for you now which is where this must be coming from. Still doesn’t change the fact you can directly download the driver.
- They're hidden in the same sense that the real "download" button is hidden on most torrent sites.

I have been out of the loop for a while so please excuse my question: Is it really necessary nowadays to let NVIDIA software connect to the internet to enter/change the graphic card settings? Years ago they only had this bullshit tool for looking up pre-made settings and an update agent, but all you had to do was to not install both when running the driver setup. I can't even remember the name of them, deselecting this crap became like muscle memory. Did NVIDIA really change that in the meantime?

at this point just stop serving websites to the uk, and call it their "great firewall"

sorry to break this to you, but zoomers are all adults now

Nearly positive that the youngest are still minors, but most of them are adults for sure.
I have a gen x cousin that still rants about millennials, quickly becoming the new Facebook uncle
- The youngest millenials are almost 30, dude's gotta get a new hobby or something, rants about Millenials haven't been the in thing for like 10 years now.
From Alpha to Beta in No Time Flat: Consequences of the Online Safety Act
These delineations are quite silly especially when used in a derogatory way. But if one plays that game, there are still "zoomers" who are minors.
- Those are probably only on mobile so their knowledge of navigating a PC is probably worse than a boomer and don't even understand the concept of folders and files.

this is eventually going to restore the internet to the 1990s on alternate protocols like Gopher or breathe new life into IRC and Newsgroups.

How would Gopher side step this?
- My best guess is through complete obscurity :)
- Assuming the law is written around the paradigm of HTTP.

Fake information

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/nvidia-app/129/572753/nvidia-app-accessibility/

lol

Relevant:

Why don't we just say people in their 20's, 30's, teens, why we gotta have an extra fucking label
- Because when you were born correlates with your cultural experiences and therefore your behaviors. Not always, bit broadly. And if you try to define groupings for those years, you can see clearly defined generations, that were really clear with the baby boomers, who were the American children of American soldiers coming back from world war 2, and then their resultant children, generation y/the "millennials", named thusly for coming of age around the time of the millennium.
  Like sure, it's all social constructs. But, so is language.
  Baby boomers generally got some of the biggest economical booms in history, along with the population "boom" of their births. But that was only if you were able, white, cisgender, heterosexual, and male. The civil rights movements of the 50s, 60s, and onwards were both possible but also necessary because of the empowerment of those demographics.
  But also, because of that general success, a lot of baby boomers (cishet white men) took on the behavioral traits of being largely pieces of shit. Not all, just like "not all men". But, it's enough of a pattern of entitlement and sexism and repression and psychosocial behavioral resultant of lead poisoning, that that's what the baby boomer generation is kind've seen as, now, regardless if any individual does or doesn't fit any of those things.
  And so, we can largely group and label the generation and attach it to a current age group and try to predict or explain behavior.
  Unfortunately, this is also discrimination in many cases where it isn't true. Personally, I try to avoid profiling entirely because the habit is gross. But, I would be lying if I said I didn't clearly see a solid pattern. I know, that they're just people like the rest of us, and if we were in their shoes, we would entirely end up just like them. But then that again brings it to it being generational, and not just age.
  You think I like being reminded and disappointed when people end up fitting their negative stereotypes? You think it's easy to try to be a good person against my own upbringing? It's not. But we have to try. And working to understand is a big part of that. More people need to ask "why", and, I know you were asking rhetorically, but you were close enough that I think it deserves recognition. So, good on you for that.
  Whatever the millennial generation ends up being known for, I'm curious. But until then, we can't give up trying to make ourselves, the world, and each other better. Because once you give up.... Well... We can never give up.
  "Why not?" Etc etc.
Oh great, a graph telling me I'm going to die soon. I'm not even that old.
- I know we don't know each other very well, but... Can I have your stuff?
As one of the first Baby Boomers, it's somewhat surrealistic for me to proof that I'm old enough to access an fucking web page.
- As a millennial, it, too, is insane.
  Which begs the question: who thinks this is a needed thing and a good idea? Who is pushing this agenda?
- I hear that - I was around when Arche and Fido-net and BBS'es were king. You want my id? Great I'll just fax it to you.
Why is it called "Lost Generation"?
- It's to do with the amount of people that were killed in WW1, essentially the sheer number of people that died during the war resulted in a generation nearly ceasing to exist.
- Going into WWI was a bad time to be coming of age.
- Personally, I don't know.
  From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Generation :
  The Lost Generation was the demographic cohort that reached early adulthood during World War I, and preceded the Greatest Generation. The social generation is generally defined as people born from 1883 to 1900, coming of age in either the 1900s or the 1910s, and were the first generation to mature in the 20th century. The term is also particularly used to refer to a group of American expatriate writers living in Paris during the 1920s.[1][2][3] Gertrude Stein is credited with coining the term, and it was subsequently popularized by Ernest Hemingway, who used it in the epigraph for his 1926 novel The Sun Also Rises: "You are all a lost generation."[4][5] "Lost" in this context refers to the "disoriented, wandering, directionless" spirit of many of the war's survivors in the early interwar period.[6]
  In the wake of the Industrial Revolution, Western members of the Lost Generation grew up in societies that were more literate, consumerist, and media-saturated than ever before, but which also tended to maintain strictly conservative social values. Young men of the cohort were mobilized on a mass scale for World War I, a conflict that was often seen as the defining moment of their age group's lifespan. Young women also contributed to and were affected by the war, and in its aftermath gained greater freedoms politically and in other areas of life. The Lost Generation was also heavily vulnerable to the Spanish flu pandemic and became the driving force behind many cultural changes, particularly in major cities during what became known as the Roaring Twenties.
  Later in their midlife, they experienced the economic effects of the Great Depression and often saw their own sons leave for the battlefields of World War II. In the developed world, they tended to reach retirement and average life expectancy during the decades after the conflict, but some significantly outlived the norm. The Lost Generation became completely ancestral when the last surviving person who was known to have been born in the Lost Generation or during the 19th century, Nabi Tajima, died in 2018 at age 117.[7]
So 1 in 3 Zoomers are under 18. A little less, since birth rates fall every year.

The internet's inability to fact check anything before re-sharing it? Yes, I agree.

Do you have a few minutes to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Linus Torvalds?

You don't need Linux, you just need to get the driver from Nvidia's website.
If they can't figure this out, they really don't belong on Linux.
You'd have the same issue with this on Linux, no? It isn't OS-specific.
EDIT: I meant in general. Software on Linux is also subject to the UKs temper tantrum laws, same as on Windows. The Nvidia driver is just an example, you can also just download the driver on Windows without needing their companion app.
- The official proprietary Nvidia drivers are just a regular Linux package I'm 99% sure, I have it installed on my laptop and it doesn't involve a gui app at all.
- You dont even need an nvidia card to open the nvidia settings on linux
- No you would not because you don't need to go to the website to download software to use Nvidia on Linux. Also the Nvidia driver on Linux is literally just a driver and settings package it has no online features
- The key thing is Linux is free and open source, free as In eat shit and fucking die government fucking pigs.
- In Linux you can use the open source nvidia drivers if you want
- I'm not aware that the Nvidia drivers for Linux require an app registration. If that were the case, I'd definitely have heard about the uproar.

Reminder that there is a petition for UK residents, now with 500 000 signatures: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903

Reminder that they already responded
The Government has no plans to repeal the Online Safety Act, and is working closely with Ofcom to implement the Act as quickly and effectively as possible
- Doesn't stop us from continuing to push. Since they responded we got 300 000 more signatures.
- A huge petition that undermines the government’s democratic mandate is never a bad thing, even if they responded.
- Ok but they should still attempt every avenue no?

Also most zoomers are adults now, so no

First they did it to millennials, now they're doing it again to Zoomers
I remember in 2019 my workplace was doing large guest lectures from experts teaching how to work with millennials entering the workplace. The teacher early on tried to emphasize that most millennials at that point were late 20s up to almost 40 so everyone's been working with them for a good amount of time now and the crowd was not interested in that.
Just venting about their teenage children who were gen z but wasn't a term used much for a couple more years. Just as entertaining were old millennials in denial and certain they were gen x. Not as entertaining were old gen z that thought they were millennials but learned they were actually gen z and it was a moment of shrug shoulder and pretty much being like, "neat." Like thinking your astrological sign or zodiac animal was one thing your whole life but was off by one.
Similar to like 2021/2022 when I started hearing about how terrible gen z workers out of college were because of growing up on tiktok. Gen z in the workforce at that time grew up on Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, and Snapchat. Twitter was genz and millennials tertiary social media. When TikTok came out they had been working for years already or just about to finish undergrad college. 2021/2022 gen z who had the brain rot got that well before TikTok became popular
"Adults"
- They're out of college and approaching 30

Zoomers can’t be bothered to spell Nvidia correctly. I wouldn’t let ‘em install my drivers either 🥲

Why does a graphics card app know how fucking old you are?

It doesn't, but the app requires making an account on NVidia's website, which also allows you to access their GeForce Live cloud gaming service, and therefore is affected by the law because certain games are deemed unsafe for children.
Yeah, most people in this thread are focusing on gen Z, but why can't a minor play video games? What if a kid wants to play a game like Rollercoaster Tycoon or the Sims, must they really be 18 years old? And why does a hardware component then verify that? It's like age verification on a plate before dinner, fucking weird.
Because you playing gooner bait for 10 hours per day, and they want that info to sell you more gooner bait.
Well, if you use an ATI 3D Rage card in your PC it can be deduced, or buying a Graphic card with you credit card.
Well now that the real question, isn't it?

Is this a joke?

The UK? Yes
- UKKK.
This timeline? Yes
Yes. It’s not clear if this was photoshopped or a bug that has been around for years, I believe related to GeForce NOW streaming. The two clients share some code, and GeForce NOW does have an age requirement.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/game-ready-drivers/13/572753/nvidia-app-accessibility/
You mean the censorship law was woefully ill-conceived and won't do anything they claim it is supposed to do? Leay it's definitely a joke, just not the type you're asking about.
Do you see anyone laughing? Well? Do you?? 🧐
🥺
- I'm laughing constantly because I'm losing my mind! Haha!
Tried to use gpt5 via the api the other day and they wanted me to scan my passport. 🫠

It's in the name... can't access graphic content without ID, can we? /s

On a more serious note, what about AMD graphics cards?

Makes sense, because with the nvidia graphics card you could generate AI porn.

a pen can generate porn
- Question: how good do you have to be at drawing to have a successful wank to your own art?
You could generate AI porn on a 6502; I don’t see Commodore or Atari pulling this crap.
- Why would you?? Commodore 64 unzipping still makes my day 😤
  https://youtu.be/Zko10cfXB_k
You can do that with a CPU, it’s just slower.
- Intel! You know what to do!

The majority of zoomers are 18 or older. The youngest are 13.

No wonder the Scots wanted to secede from this mess.

And it would've worked too, if it weren't for those meddling ~~kids~~ BBC and MSM propaganda machines!
Hear me out
Cascotia

Never thought living in a second world country would have it's benefits

Second-world means axis-power (Germany, Hungary, Australia, Italy, Finland, Japan, etc). It doesn't mean something like "half-way between first-world and third-world" like Latin America or the USA.
- Second world doesn't mean axis powers, it represented the Soviet Union and Soviet aligned countries.
  Its a cold war term. The terms represent the two remaining superpowers after WW2.
  1st world = The US and US aligned countries
  2nd world = Soviet Union and Soviet aligned countries
  3rd world = Non-aligned countries. Which just happened to be mostly under developed countries, which is why the term is now used for that. It didn't actually mean under developed at first. For example, Switzerland is technically a 3rd world country despite being rich and highly developed.
- No
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_World
- Australia being a famous axis power
- Australia is an axis power! Salutschüsse.

Microsoft could pull this off nicely. One nice foggy morning in the UK, and all Windows boxes go BSOD ... Hmm, I think, they do that anyway, most of the time, don't they.

most video games are mostly slop, the last best video games was done before clinton was elected.

Creed: "I don't get it. Why does a driver manager need a social media feature?" Ryan: "A one stop shop consumer experience. You're chatting with your friends, you're talking about the latest music, about the election; all of it is happening in our virtual driver manager" Philus: "Did the police sort the issue?" Ryan: "Yes"

What has the setting of nVidia or visiting the Wikipedia to do with child protection? Certainly old guys which confuse a remote control with an smartphone , don't should be authorized to make internet laws.

The actual Nvidia driver settings window or all the gamer crap build on top of it that demands you make an account?

Don’t get me wrong, this law is awful but also just deinstall that piece of bloat, good old Nvidia control panel is all you need and works entirely offline without account or did something chance since i left windows?

They're gradually moving all the functionalities of Nvidia Control Panel to the Nvidia App. All the new features can only be accessed from the Nvidia App.
- And you don't need an account to use the Nvidia App.

is this real? what the f does a gpu driver have to do with the safety act?

😂

Most zoomers are adults. 96 to 2010 means only the youngest zoomers are minors. In 3 years, every zoomer will be a legal adult.

Sorry. I thought this was about the Nivea app.

The final solution to the zoomer question has finally begun

Nvcleanstall

Imagine if more people actually voted for candidates that shared their policy concerns instead of just complaining into the void. In a democracy, the people get exactly the government they deserve.

In a first-past-the-post system, the election outcome does not really reflect the will of the electorate. Which is why things are so fucked up in places that use these systems.
- The British don't seem to be doing so well anymore with their parliamentary system. it would appear that there is no governmental system that can't be manipulated effectively anymore.
the people get exactly the government they deserve.
You are extremely naive about "democracy"
You are taking the fake choices at face value
This is not democracy
Voting once in a while is not democracy, it's not even politics
Look at the rotating cast of 100 or so loser leading just about every democracy, do you really believe that the current leaders really are these despicable, reprehensible, deceptive and bootlicking politicians are the best people among hundreds of millions of people ?
Of course not, what a crazy idea, and you want to blame the victim about it ? The victim which are US ??? How dare you !
Every country has their own version of first past the post, electoral college and all kinds of rules that ensure that even if they can't apparently influence politics, the politics have nevertheless NEVER left the hands of the power elites. The people who have always owned everything and will always own everything. You might be feeling some protest and the desire to point to some "rags to riches" story to rebut me, but no you know just as well as I do that these exception are far and few in between and they don't save the system.
The system designed to perpetuate the concentration of power into fewer and fewer hands, as much as possible, stopping just short of monopoly and kings unless we stopped looking.
Face it, our democracy is rotten bull shit ! It's NOT OUR FAULT, it was rigged from the start by GOD DAMNED SLAVE OWNERS !!!!!!
So stop repeating the thought terminating platitudes like "the people get exactly the government they deserve", "it's the worst system, except for all the others", "western liberal democracy is the end of history".
This was and always been fake no matter how much the elites want us to believe it.
Democracy was fake then, it is fake NOW and that is not even taking into account just how incredibly WORSE it is getting in recent years. Not only were the elites content with assassination of dissenters of anything that would champion any kind of change everywhere on Earth, from Martin Luther King to an endless series of political activists but now we have even worse and more deadly than assassinations going on.
Here are just a few of the new technology that ensure your old fake democracy will never EVER amount to anything and you will scientifically never matter to any kind of policy. (even though it was scientifically proven a decade ago that the people's preference have no effect on congess' policies)
The new nails in the airtight, steel reinforced concrete coffin of democracy are

1. Behavioral Microtargeting Data-driven psychological manipulation that hijacks emotions to steer voter behavior without their awareness. 2. Algorithmic Information Control Algorithms decide what people see and believe, shaping political reality to favor power. 3. Surveillance-Based Targeting Every movement, message, and purchase is tracked and fed into systems designed to pre-empt resistance. 4. Neuromarketing & Biometric Influence Ads and messages are engineered to exploit subconscious emotional and physiological responses. 5. Digital ID & Programmable Money Financial and identity systems can be weaponized to reward obedience and punish dissent instantly. 6. Rigged Electoral Architecture Voting systems and rules ensure only establishment-friendly candidates ever make it to power. 7. Deplatforming & Soft Censorship Unapproved voices are quietly erased, throttled, or discredited before they can gain traction. 8. Algorithmic Bureaucracy (AI Governance) Opaque algorithms control critical life decisions with no transparency or accountability. 9. Weaponized Legalism ("Lawfare") Laws are selectively enforced to crush dissent while protecting the powerful. 10. Manufactured Hopelessness The system convinces people that resistance is pointless, ensuring compliance without force.
We are totally boned, we should all go piss on the tomb of Edward Bernays and Ivy Lee in mourning because our democracy is NEVER COMING BACK
How would under age people vote? Where I am from, you can only vote at 18 (16 for some special elections), so bad luck if you are under 18 and want to be represented
Some* people get the government they deserve.