Calling BS. Pics Or It Didn't Happen

Already proven a hoax

What's the Source: ?
I wanna share it with others who still believe it's true
- On September 11, 2025, The Wall Street Journal issued a caution regarding its earlier report on an internal law-enforcement bulletin concerning the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk. The bulletin had mentioned ammunition found near the scene with “transgender and anti-fascist ideology” engravings, but the Justice Department indicated the report might not accurately reflect the messages on the ammunition as the probe was in its early stages.
  This is statement from the WSJ

The backpedaling on the WSJ's lie has begun:

On September 11, 2025, The Wall Street Journal issued a caution regarding its earlier report on an internal law-enforcement bulletin concerning the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk. The bulletin had mentioned ammunition found near the scene with "transgender and anti-fascist ideology" engravings, but the Justice Department indicated the report might not accurately reflect the messages on the ammunition as the probe was in its early stages.

Homie wrote an entire manifesto on a 30-06 shell

It's actually the epstein files, that's why they didn't publish what the casings said

Lol first thing someone does when they go to assassinate someone is to engrave the rifle they hope no one ever finds...

Yeah wasn't this shit also pulled with Luigi?
- he was caught days later with an entire manifesto and also evidence placing him at the scene in his backpack, how convenient! :)

I would love to hear what they mean by “transgender ideology” lmfao

that usually means acknowledging that trans people exist and are the gender they say they are
scary stuff /s

Aint nobody gonna engrave a bullet casing with anything outside of manufacturing environment. Anyone with that capability isnt doing it for free either

It was an inside job by a professional. There were two guys doing umpire signals to his immediate right. King pedo Karen just wants an excuse to declare martial law

"transgender ideology" is not a thing. That's the type of shit transphobes pull out of their ass when they're trying to attack trans folks

I can see something engraved like "uwu" be interpreted that way by MSM.
- ...I kinda hope that's exactly what was engraved.
- Imagine dying to a bullet with uwu on it
- I always thought uwu was more of a furry thing, right?
  Imagine knowing your nazi hero was shot by a fucking furry lmao
I think transgender ideology is "we're human".
It's fucking wild that the Right can be opposed to human rights and anti-fascism and millions of people are somehow still gaslit in believing they're the good guys.
- It's this exact point for me. "Antifascist" is being taken at face value and simultaneously being tarred as antisocial rhetoric. What the actual fuck has gone on? If the belief that "antifascist" is a cover or a dogwhistle, then shouldn't you attempt to separate their political orientation away from those words? "They aren't antifascist. They are political dissidents claiming all of their political enemies are 'fascists'."
  Instead, we have: "No, they ARE antifascists and they are our enemies!" Why did we let them stigmatize the word "antifascist"?

Engraved on ammunition. We're at biblical levels of made up bullshit.

But it's good to know that it also ends biblically

Well, we got images of the primary suspect today, so I'm guessing we'll get more pics soon.

Here's what I think we know so far:

they did recover the gun - reports are saying it's a bolt action rifle, and this article claims to have a shot at the gun, which tracks with this article where a sniper guessed the caliber from the gunshot sound (allegedly a .30-06, which has a similar muzzle velocity and size as the .308 the sniper guessed)
the bullets were not engraved, though potentially marked w/ permanent marker or something - engraving takes a lot of work, and I doubt someone skilled w/ a firearm would bother
the primary suspect is the right person - they arrested/detained two others, and quickly let them go
they have some biometrics - I watched a report where they recovered palm, forarm, and shoe prints, no fingerprints as of yet

I'm guessing the perp isn't a student there, otherwise they would've been able to get a name from school records.

I guess we'll see how close I am, but in the meantime, I hope these sources are of interest to others.

Transgender ideology? Did they write UWU on the bullet?

Linux kernel source code was engraved in the bullet
- "I run Arch btw"
a bullet but with cat ears and a choker
How big was the bullet??
- I think it was a .308

lol bet they also found The Communist Manifesto engraved on a nano scale on the bullet casing.

Like how the IDF keeps finding "Mein Kampf" strewn across Gaza.
They found a etching on a wall of Hillary Clinton naked that the shooter did while waiting as well ... it was Banksy quality.
- The bullet came from her emails!!
raped beheaded babies baked in ovens inside the bullets.

One shot fired and there are multiple casings found? Yeah, this is bullshit.

According to the WSJ there was just one spent round still chambered and three more in the magazine. So, still really stupid sounding as a theory but it's at least internally consistent.

This false flag operation is insanely piss poor. It's like they were all sat in a room and told one of them was going to be scarified to initiate a civil war and here is your rhetoric start immediately saying the exact same thing.

And who has the most to gain? Couch fucker picking off his presidential rivals...

I thought WSJ was fake news according to trump...

What day is it, and how does it lick the rapist's boots?

transgender and antifascist ideology

transgender ... ideology

[Squidward voice, but angrier] NO, PATRICK, TRANSGENDER IS NOT AN IDEOLOGY... PREGNANT IS NOT AN IDEOLOGY EITHER.

Breaking News: the entire text of The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood was found to be engraved on bullet casings left at the scene, according to a source. So we should ban that book from all schools, fr fr.

Alberta did that last month.

Kinda like how people write shit on bombs meant for Gaza but on bullets? LMAO yes I don't believe that at all

I wonder what's supposedly written on it. I'll bet FCK NZI in the RUN DMC logo

I wonder if ~~Jeff Bezos~~ Murdoch will ever see punishment for making his news media mouthpiece publish this lie?

Also, why the fuck is the Wall Street Journal commenting on some gang-related shooting?
WSJ is owned by Fox News Murdoch assholes, not Jeff Bezos. Both deserve shit. But let's give it where it's due.
Bezos is Washington Post, not WSJ...

Probably didn't even find the rifle responsible. More reason to believe it was a setup.

Lol what could they have possibly put on the bullet casings to make somebody think this?

Trans-antifascists is something I can support

seems like this wasnt even an accurate report

https://bsky.app/profile/thelincoln.bsky.social/post/3lyl5ljm2h22m

Early Bulletin Said Ammunition in Kirk Shooting Engraved With Transgender, Antifascist Ideology; Some Sources Urge Caution
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot/card/pdymd1sXXMSlVRhpvR4b
It sounds like a bulletin was indeed circulated, and it sounds like the WSJ is being pretty candid about the law enforcement response:
Law-Enforcement Officials Sow Confusion on Manhunt for Kirk Shooter / Contradictory public statements risk undermining confidence in investigation, law enforcement veterans say
https://www.wsj.com/us-news/charlie-kirk-shooting-manhunt-e7f3eae4
The WSJ is not going to have first hand access to the evidence, so they have to report (transparently!) what they're told by credible sources. In this case, it sounds like law enforcement --- supposed to be credible --- is not. It's a pretty tricky thing to report on.
- Yeah, it's a funny thing. When you fire 1500 FBI agents because the previous administration assigned them to investigate your crimes and you're mad at them for not refusing, you bully hundreds more into quitting, and then you make it clear to the survivors they'll be fired if the results of their investigations don't support your political agenda... Well, the officers who stick around aren't the most competent, that's all.
  But Lord, if there's anything that highlights the hypocrisy of the gun-fellating right, the fact they claim to be these he man gun owners but are so unfamiliar with how a bullet is supposed to look that they claimed a manufacturer's marks were trans propaganda...
but WSJ ran with it.
- Can you believe, once upon a tine long long ago The Wall Street Journal actually had integrity in journalism.
  Now it's a billionaire's plaything.
My shocked Pikachu face is shocked at this shocking shock.
Wall Street Murdoch not wrong! Clicks go up!

Yeah what the fuck. Just like Luigi's alleged engravings. It doesnt make any sense beyond an emotional response. Why take the time to engrave something no one will see? Its going faster than the speed of sound.

Typically you would engrave the casing. That goes nowhere near the target.
So yeah.
- Then to the same degree, why engrave the evidence to make it easier to track? It still doesnt make sense.
- The casing that the shooter took with them?
  Why leave rifle full of them & not leave the one you fired?
  This was a CIA or Mossad hit & the shooter isn't even in the USA at this point.
- Kurt Cobain wants to know how to add a community comment
Satanic Panic is back

In related news, doctors were amazed they kept pulling books and scrolls from the body, placed there by the bullets.

“It’s amazing” said the orange as quoted by the wsj, “apparently books like this can kill. I’m sure he could have survived the wound without the additional poisoning.”

In response to this, reaction forces were posed to raid the libraries of all elementary schools within the washington dc area

Not seeing other outlets report this. So yeah I'm skeptical.

Early Bulletin Said Ammunition in Kirk Shooting Engraved With Transgender, Antifascist Ideology; Some Sources Urge Caution
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot/card/pdymd1sXXMSlVRhpvR4b
It sounds like a bulletin was indeed circulated, and it sounds like the WSJ is being pretty candid about the law enforcement response:
Law-Enforcement Officials Sow Confusion on Manhunt for Kirk Shooter / Contradictory public statements risk undermining confidence in investigation, law enforcement veterans say
https://www.wsj.com/us-news/charlie-kirk-shooting-manhunt-e7f3eae4
- So basically the federal agencies cannot be trusted here and have clearly shown their political partisanship and they got what they wanted in circulating their official false narrative to provoke political violence on the right against the lbgtq community and whatever the fuck they call the left.
  Because that's literally what they did, every right wing advocate for political violence has been clamoring about this non fucking stop and the government here has no shame about it.
  2A up people, it's going to get bad.
The trashier ones reported on it, but then they're not on the front page anymore.

Total BS. Engraving on a small, curved surface, legibly is hard as hell. Then that bullet is going to get grooved in a rifled barrel, and most likely deform or fragment on impact.

We should probably be talking about how Trump used a fucking AI video to address Charlie Kirk's death. There's a good chance Trump is doing this as a false flag

If it was engraved, it would be on the casing, not the bullet. I imagine many journalists don't actually know the difference, and most readers probably wouldn't as well.
That said, I agree, I don't see why the shooter would spend the time. If there were any markings, I'm going to guess they're permanent marker, because that's way easier to do.
My money is on this being completely bogus. I believe they found the rifle (first rule of murder school is to not bring the weapon with you), but I do not believe they found engraved bullets, because that's kind of ridiculous.
False flag is exactly what this is.
I’d be shocked if this wasn’t a decision directly from Trump and his magat minions they follow him around to distract from Epstein and further slide America in the hell hole of fascism that it’s facing.
Hurry up Americans. You won’t have an America soon at this rate.
Line item number 2.
- No way in fuck they purposely had Kirk assassinated.
  His job as a propagandist / hate spreader is way too important and influential to stop
  they could’ve martyred a similarly famous, but less influential, republican and gotten the same response
  they’re going to go forward with their plan- they don’t need an excuse
  this happened in a red state, why wouldn’t they pick a blue state?
  I really don’t think Epstein files matter that much for republicans. A video could come out of Trump raping a child and it would be chalked up to ai and they wouldn’t believe it
  the news cycle is so short- this won’t remain a hot topic for a long amount of time
  It’s a convenient distraction, sure, but it’s been proven time and time again that they don’t need distractions to carry out policy. If there’s any conspiracy to be had, it would be surrounding the (relatively) unanimous rhetoric that his death was a tragedy. When kids die in Gaza everyday, a regular citizen is shot, or someone kills themselves because of financial strain we don’t debate the morals of their unjust death. However when a famous white man is killed he isn’t just a statistic but an example of how awful people can be.
They're almost certainly saying bullet but meaning casing. But yes I have to say that it's pretty unlikely.
- No good marksman is carving anything on a bullet or casing. You want it to work. Carving the bullet means changing the ballistics, carving the casing means potentially making the round not chamber or having a misfire from a busted casing.
- Sounds like they're saying the un-shot ammunition found with the rifle had the engravings. If I'm mistaken on that, could you please link to where they're saying bullet specifically?
  Still, as someone who's tried to paint tea cups, have to agree, curved surfaces are a bitch to mark legibly (probably harder on the smaller surface of a bullet casing).
Be careful about spreading the AI story. I view it as debunked unless you’ve got something better than this exchange:
https://lemmy.world/comment/19332953
- None of those comments offer anything to suggest its not AI. To me its very clearly ai. Trump these days cannot speak properly and in that video he speaks clear and consistent and uses no hand gestures. He also looks younger and the video is low rez.

I mean, if I was wanting a false flag, that's what I'd do.

I hope a trans person did shoot him and I hope they get away with it. Kirk made his living by terrorizing and dehumanizing queer folks and I’m happy he finally got to the FO stage. Hopefully seeing daddy get blown away will ensure his kid doesn’t grow up to be as bigoted and the lesson is learned.

Oh Gods I hope this isn't the case. The right would start foaming at the mouth and could start rounding us up as threats.
It's also... a little ghoulish to speak about a kid losing their parent that way. Whatever you think of the man his kid's grief isn't exactly something to celebrate. I get not mourning the man but celebrating his death isn't going to help us trans folks in the end. I have a feeling that this is going to get a whole lot worse for all of us as a people very quickly and as a whole we're already a group hanging on by our fingertips.
- Yeah if a trans person shot him best case is just a pogrom
I don't. I hope it was a MAGA nutjob or similar so the administration doesn't get a good boogeyman

“antifacsist ideology”?

So, what…an American Flag? Right? Right…?

Yeah, what is antifascist ideology? Like, equal rights, being nice,... That kind of stuff?
And transgender ideology? What is that? To be nice to transgender people?
- And transgender ideology? What is that? To be nice to transgender people?
  If I were to frame it in terms of an ideology - that we should be allowed to pursue happiness and comfort aided by the backing of scientific evidence to ensure we are safe. That our lives not be rendered into terms where reproductive function or lack thereof dictates how we must live our lives.
  And that while we do not demand full metaphysical submission of belief of other people that we are our gender it should be acknowledged that our social engineering mechanisms are a kindness that allow us greater room to psychologicaly function. These absences of accommodation in professional situations or public design causes either our livelihoods or accessibility to spaces or facets of society to become hardships above and beyond the average citizen.
  I personally do not care if someone is "nice" to me or not. I care about being able to leave their vacinity if they are being an ass and that my safety and job security isn't effected by me being trans.
- How very radical.
- My guess is "FU Nazi!" A colleague guessed the peace symbol ☮

Ideology: fascism is bad, transgender people should have equal rights.

Not ideology: let's kill everybody that doesn't conform to our narrow minded idea of society.

Wait when did they find the weapon?? Last I heard they didn't have the weapon and the 2 people they arrested were the wrong guy. So it sounds like the shooter didn't leave the gun behind, so I would expect them to only get the weapon if they got the shooter unless I missed something between yesterday and today.

Edit: Found the update that I missed from the FBI this morning, they apparently found the weapon in a "wooded area", so shooter still unknown

Recent reports indicate a bolt action rifle was found wrapped in a towel in the woods, one empty casing in the chamber, three more live rounds in the mag.
- Sounds like Kash Patel watched JFK last night. Was the pristine bullet from a Mannlicher-Carcano?
- Utah has woods?!?

When did noting fascism is bad become an ideology?

When a fascist conman convinced a nation of racist rubes to give him All The Powers.

Also fishy that Trump announced his death and made an AI video of himself. How long does it take to create an AI video like that?

Well there you go. Got the idiot's hate pointed in the right direction and don't have to give up the shooter. Oh and Trump was an Epstein informant.

trump is trying anything to distract from the Epstein list

Suck my dick.

Buy me a drink first.
- In this economy?

Pretty convenient.

This is why I'm against extreme violence. "The Left" will end up like the Palestinians.

“More people will be murdered if the Left isn’t crushed with the power of the state,” Loomer added.
Even President Donald Trump blamed the shooting on “radical left political violence” in an Oval Office address Wednesday night.
William Wolfe, another Christian nationalist and a former Trump administration official, posted a video of the shooting with the comment: “The. Left. Must. Be. Destroyed.” In a separate tweet, he wrote, “The Democrats and the Left must be crushed. The goal for Republicans in the next ten years shouldn’t just be to win elections, but to destroy the Democrat Party entirely and salt the earth underneath it.”

mate, that was always the plan. they will take any excuse to move in that direction no matter what you do. there is no civility with fascists.
The left can sit in a corner and play nice. It doesnt matter, facists have to induce fear in order to gain control. They'll manufacture it they have to.