DOJ Deletes Study Showing Domestic Terrorists Are Most Often Right Wing
DOJ Deletes Study Showing Domestic Terrorists Are Most Often Right Wing
Following Charlie Kirk’s assassination and the Trump administration’s promise to go after the “radical left” a study showing most domestic terrosim is far-right was disappeared.
Archived: https://archive.is/Ow3FE
"The facts don't care about your feelings" crowd continues to hate facts.
Stop Covid testing! It's making our numbers go up! - Trump, 2020
Ministry of Truth.
This is bad.
It's also so obvious I'd consider it a show of power. A threat.
Right wing Europeans are continually taking notes of what can be done.
And they are all forming an Internationale.
Its so fucking bad.
We need to shut down fascists by disrupting their conferences and communications, and dividing them by disparaging the evangelists' support for Trump as betraying Christian values (because Trump is atheist), and by disparaging the fascists' support for evangelists as betraying the state values (in that the church doesn't listen to fascism), and so on. Divide and rule.
Communists need to have more children than the fascists.
Communists need to have more children than the fascists.
Got it, so clone army it is.
That's so perfectly typicsl for the right.
It's really very simple - if the evidence shows that one of their beliefs is wrong, then their principles dictate that they have no choice but to... bury the evidence.
Not solely a right tactic. You also see this with product studies sponsored by big corporations.
Fascism and Corporatism is the same ideology. Thanks Mussolini.
... so the right...
Sort of.
I mean - yes - corporations do it, but for them it's a simple business strategy. It's not a matter of whether they want to believe it or not - it's just that that information getting out would hurt their profits and nothing matters more than their profits.
But for right-wingers, it's some sort of weird cognitively dissonant delusional dogma thing - like if they can successfully hide the evidence to the contrary, that'll somehow make their beliefs actually true. They'll be able to face the new day, confident that their beliefs are true, because after all, nobody can prove otherwise, right?
They're trying to rewrite history/truth because they wanna push the "left wingers are domestic terrorists" thing so bad rather than admit right wingers are just pieces of shit lmao
If only there were another historic event/group that would be make a good comparison.
OH WAIT
Historic photo of first clinical trial of Right Guard deordorant.
Our country is founded on "terrorism". Ask the British.
The US Bravely fought off the British terrorists so they could become American terrorists.
The American Nazi party deletes documents showing their supporters are pieces of shit... Who could have ever seen this coming.
Every German who went to school after 1945, for one.
Every German who went to school after
1945, for one.
More like 1980.
In the immediate aftermath of World War II, there was a widespread reluctance among Germans to acknowledge the atrocities committed by the Nazi regime. However, this began to change in the 1960s and 1970s, as a new generation of Germans began to grapple with the legacy of their country’s past. The first efforts to teach about the Holocaust in German schools began in the 1980s, and since then, the curriculum has continued to evolve to better reflect the complexities of this history.
https://knowgermany.com/do-they-teach-about-the-holocaust-in-germany/
Their feelings don’t care about the facts
The right wing are bad people and we need to stop pretending it's just a difference of opinion. They in several fundamental ways suck.
And yet everyone's all like "oh Goebbels was a gifted marketer and father we can't say mean things". Fuck 'em. They can choose to stop being shit any time they want. Until then, they deserve nothing but scorn.
“We” are not maintaining the delusion that the right wing monsters are legitimate. It’s the media that has pretended these far right extremist positions are sane, and has elevated them to prominence. If they were honest about how loathsome and unamerican right wing ideals are, we wouldn’t be in this mess.
Media corpos are typically run by right wingers, and are massive for-profit companies that make a killing on running election ads (presently a ~20Bn industry cyclic every 4 years), so it shouldn’t be a huge surprise that they do this. And now the Trump admin has weaponized the DOJ to go after them for any criticism at all, so this phenomenon is on steroids currently.
I strongly agree with your last sentence. The media, other politicians, etc - nobody is going to hold right wingers accountable for us. Unfortunately, we have to do it ourselves, to their dumb faces, and force them to face the uncomfortable truths of their reprehensible actions. Good luck, be strong, and find ways to consistently stand up for the morally correct positions. Keeping pressure up this way is a vital component to how we can win.
I can accept that this current government in the USA is packed with the absolute most morally bankrupt people in America, but I just can’t conceive of the idea that 52% of Americans are the same.
What’s that in adults like 110 million? I’m not sure how many kids they have over there.
There just isn’t any chance that all those people are monsters too and you ain’t had a civil war. It seems more likely that most Americans have been propagandised by the media and they just only see what they want to see. I doubt every republican voter is watching the stuff we see as let’s be frank we’re likely all terminally online and more connected than they’re and it ain’t even my county.
Perhaps they only ever interact with other republicans cause surely if they hated the democrats that much then there would be shootings in Walmart everyday.
As say this as in the UK I know people that believe some crazy stuff about illegal immigrants (this term sucks and is a non issue) which has them wanting to kick them out and stuff but these people are not like that and get on with people from other countries but right now they’re blinded by the complete bombardment of that kind of content.
Maybe I’m naive, but I feel unlikely as I’m usually incredibly cynical.
Perhaps they only ever interact with other republicans cause surely if they hated the democrats that much then there would be shootings in Walmart everyday.
I'm told there were about 500 mass shootings (4 or more people) last year. So we're pretty close.
And I don't think it's 52%. A lot of people don't vote or update their voter records. But there does seem to be a frothy core that's getting high on hating people.
I think conservatives are more insular, too. If you live in a city and actually see and interact with other kinds of people, its harder to hate them as monsters.
It's more like 1/3 because 1/3 of Americans don't vote. Also, that 1/3 that votes Republican is the most politically uninformed 1/3. And many of them don't actually know what the people they vote for believe, they just vote R because they always have.
77,302,580 Americans voted for Trump out of a total of 340,865,045 individuals. That makes the total number of Americans who wanted some part of what's going on strongly enough to take some action is roughly 23%. 75 million Americans voted for Harris and 37 million Americans were registered, but did not vote which is roughly 33%.
Only 55% of the country is registered to vote so it's really hard to tell what the 45% of Americans who aren't registered feel politically, but it's probably safe to assume if they can't be bothered to vote, they're probably not down for the civil war remix.
Of the 23% who voted conservative in 2024, not all of them hold far right beliefs. It's hard to say what fraction of that population would fall on the far right, especially because Trumpism itself holds some far right ideology. Even assuming half of all republican voters are ready and willing to engage in a civil war, that's only 35 million people or 11% of the population.
They're really loud online and currently have control of the government, but there really aren't that many of them. There are far more people who don't care, centrists, democrats, and leftists.
there is no reason to give the majority of those people the benefit of the doubt. Humans can have large groups with oppressive opinions. A large segment of Germans supported the nazi's, a large section of Israel thinks gaza isn't being destroyed harshly enough and a large sections of americans currently believe in massive oppression.
Goebbels was a great father, how dare you?
How many fathers can claim they killed their own children because he was a little bitch?
He couldn't stand to spend a day in the afterlife without his children with him. Doesn't his love just bring a tear to your eye?
If more fascists in this country thought the way Goebbels did, we'd have less fascists in this country.
Joseph Goebbels was a Nazi, and he poisoned his 6 kids at the end of the war before also committing suicide.. Nobody is saying that about him, and I know where you got that phrase from too..I literally just read the article on lemmy. So I dont know why you're using it since its out of context.
You can criticize people without making shit up...
Own it you fucking twats.
Here is an archive of the DOJ site in question. They had to be sure they took it down before Vance hopped on Kirk’s nazi podcast to spout lies claiming the opposite of objective reality.
Militant, nationalistic, white supremacist violent extremism has increased in the United States. In fact, the number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism. Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives.[1] In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.[2] A recent threat assessment by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security concluded that domestic violent extremists are an acute threat and highlighted a probability that COVID-19 pandemic-related stressors, long-standing ideological grievances related to immigration, and narratives surrounding electoral fraud will continue to serve as a justification for violent actions.[3]
Can't be letting pesky facts get in the way of them abolishing the Democratic party.
Dipshits
If we delete and hide the evidence does it really exist?
Just stop testing
I was gonna say, this was something they already tried in his first term during covid.
The lack of serious backlash, outrage, or even general coverage of the insanity and facism that's coming out of the current administration by the media is pretty concerning.
It feels like everyone is just running with it, and I have a hard time beleiving that many people are OK with all of this.
What scares me is that Trump did this with Arctic temperature data
Down the memory hole...
Well, "study" is already such a radical-left, woke concept! Like all those "studies" about vaccines. True MAGA Patriots go by gut feeling and by other things that are also produced in the guts!
You know if we actually wanted to get rid of these people it would be really easy. All we have to do is release some deadly but preventable disease. Then encourage everyone to get vaccines.
The problem with covid is that it wasn't really deadly for most people. So they got sick and were probably miserable but they never learnt their lesson.
A friend of mine, always with a non optimal immune system, had planned a wedding anniversary vacation to Mexico in 2009 but refused to get a shot against the Mexican Flu...
Within a week of his vacation he got infected with the Mexican Flu, which by then was a pandemic... (the western world almost forgot about this one) He quickly was transported to an ER in his home city, tubes sticking out of him everywhere, no one allowed to visit him beyond the airlock... Eventually he recovered but it took at least a year to feel sort of healthy. Claimed he regretted not getting the H1N1 (Mexican Flu) vaccine.
He got a flu-shot a year after, but after the 2nd year he refused "if I get one I get a stuffed nose for a full month".
When I reminded him of not learning a lesson from the Mexican Flu, he claimed it wasn't that bad...
Almost had no proper recollection of being in emergency care with tubing all over his body...
Year 5 after his H1N1 adventure he had been without flu shots for a while, got another flu, was badly ill for 6 weeks, lost his job because of it... Tried to convince himself it was a younger worker who stole his job...
We broke contact after a while where it was clear he was willfully spiraling downward into a black hole of denial and blaming others.
So, yeah, folks like that do not learn a lesson, not even if they end up very ill and it having lasting effects on their life, there is a pressing need to find another person to lay blame on.
P values are woke. The IRB is the deep state. Data is biased for lefties.
If they knew what any of those things were they'd say it.
Corrected text:
"Following Chork getting what he deserved, and the Trump terrorist regime's threat to go after a demented fiction, a study showing most domestic terrorism being far-right, was censored."
So what's this bullshit called now cause justice is not the correct word.
I got you, fam, the word you are looking for is "jingoism".
The MAGA DOJ is the Department of Jingoism.
Per Merriam-Webster's website:
Did you know?
Jingoism Got Its Start in the 19th CenturyJingoism originated during the Russo-Turkish War of 1877-1878, when many British citizens were hostile toward Russia and felt Britain should intervene in the conflict. Supporters of the cause expressed their sentiments in a music-hall ditty with this refrain:
We don't want to fight, yet by jingo if we do,
We've got the ships, we've got the men,
We've got the money, too!Someone holding the attitude implied in the song became known as a jingo or jingoist, and the attitude itself was dubbed jingoism. The jingo in the tune is probably a euphemism for Jesus.
Quintez Brown attempted to kill Democratic Mayor of Louisville, Kentucky, Craig Greenberg, in February 2022. Brown was motivated by Black nationalism, pan-Africanism and revolutionary socialism.
I dunno, to me revolutionary socialism is something I equate with "the left".
Still, 1 out of 30 ain't bad.
Yeah:
"The only perpetrator arguably from the Left is Black nationalist Quintez Brown."
So they did acknowledge it, but kind of gave it a pass because he wasn't "affiliated with the Democratic Party or any other mainstream reformist, progressive or leftist organisation".
I think it's still a bit up in the air about whether Tyler Robinson had a consistent ideology. He is 22, an age where political leanings can be all over the place and evolve pretty rapidly. Whatever the case, it seems he operated alone. So we can consider how much online rhetoric influenced him one way or another, but it doesn't seem like there was any organizational pressure or even a forum that had a chance to talk him into or out of his plan.
The article does make a broader point well supported by data, broadly speaking the right has gotten more violent and we don't see a similar pattern on the left. No matter which way Tyler lands or just attributed to less ostensibly political ideology, I think the trend is still valid. It's somewhat less dangerous if they can definitively establish him as a Fuentes like, but I fear he might be credibly "grown out of it".
No doubt left-wing terrorism has happened. Just much less frequent and deadly.
I have no words honestly. Ever since the Kirk shooting, things are spiralling further down and getting to a point of no return. I think war is going to erupt soon between fascist far-right groups and everyone else. Not just in the U.S., but in Canada, too.
I'm afraid you might be right. Although I think that some specificities of canadian culture might help us or at least slow down those changes.
I dunno. Hate groups have become much more bolder and appearing in public spaces. Have their own podcasts and their own media networks (Rebel News and Ezra Levant, etc.) They're also forming militias, training for combat and firearm use, and even infiltrating the military forces to recruit new members. Source Source 2 Bands with allegiances to these groups have also produced music with hate speech and racist lyrics, talking about bringing back gas chambers, etc. This is no joke.
Wow, what fragile egos.
Someone keyed my minivan over the weekend, probably because of some pro-trans/science stickers. Luckily the paint is not a concern of mine (it had rattle-canned sections when I bought it, I knew what I was getting), but still. I pointed it out to my wife, she just quipped "and they call us snowflakes 😂". God I love that woman.
All of this shit makes me want to play dirty now. Preach hate, get hate; and all that.
I've been simmering on some 'radical left-wing' grafitti such as;
Be Kind
Build Community
Don't Hate
Love Thy Neighbor
But I don't want to get black bagged for spreading such subversive rhetoric.
I would straight up start busting windows out of any vehicle with trump stickers. But I have a family who needs fed and housed, so I don't.
Yet.
"don't hate" seems like an extremely radical message. I hate lots of things, and I think it is right to hate those things.
I hate it when Nazis gain power. I hate it when children are molested. I hate injustice. Don't you?
You’re clearly a menace to society! I ought to turn you into the thought police for my brownie points. I might even get enough for a gold star this year!
Honestly, it is the behavior of the righwing that is making me edge towards being a militant leftist. If they are going to lie and persecute the innocent, at what point should they be shielded by civility?
I think when the left's emotional dam breaks, the conservatives would have to face the consequences for their actions.
militant leftist
The word "militant" is interesting, particularly its use as a vague slur. It suggests extremism or even violence without requiring evidence of such (for example 15-20 years ago the term "militant atheist" got flung around a lot, referring to people who didn't believe in God and were outspoken and unashamed of it).
It caught my attention when encountering the Italian counterpart "militante" which means anyone who gets off their ass for something they believe in. Carrying a sign in a protest is definitely "militante". And as such it's not a slur, or suggestive of anything scary. I guess the meaning in English isn't so materially different except for the bourgeois fear of activism which it conjures up.
Oh wow... Hey I just learned that water is wet btw.
On a comical note, a liquid's ability to hold onto a solid surface can be considered "wet".
There has been considerable scientific and philosophical debate on whether "water is wet", or if "liquids make solids wet on contact".
There, learned yet a other thing today!
(Yes. The news content has unfortunately become trite. I understood the sarcasm!)
A post truth regime.
Feelings are their facts.
And they vote in support of each other.
It's really annoying
On brand.
The study showed far right extremists had 5x as many attacks since 1990
The New World Order cannot tolerate evidence that doesn't comply!
This is being done by the "facts don't care about your feelings" people?
Of course it was.
That study was flawed because it didn't show the correct result.
What happened to her face?
Just a normal hateful face.
I think it's just mostly big media, stirring the shit out of everything to see what happens. CHA-CHING!!!
It’s always the ones you most suspect.
hold that mirror up real high so you can see that shitty toupee, republicans 💜
Wrigley Institute of Gum Studies vibes
usa is beyond discourse and electoralism pulling it out of this fascist tailspin, the fascists are just going to remove everything they don't like because they control the empire
conspiracy beliefs is the gateway to being alt right in general.
Oh they'll know when the left get involved!
So, hear me out. According to horseshoe theory...
You're going to have to explain how this applicable in detail before I hear you out.
If you go far enough to the right, I'm told that you come out the other side as a Leftist.
And since the Groyper was to Charlie Kirk's right? And Charlie Kirk was the most far-right figure that was politically palpable to national media? And also, this guy was some middle-class shitkicker from Utah with poisoned internet brain who we can hallucinate any kind of ideology we want onto?
Defacto Leftist. QED. Also, transgender. Muslim. Communist. Atheist. An illegal immigrant. Some combination of Russian and Chinese. Whatever the scary thing of the current news cycle happens to be.
You're probably being sarcastic here, but just to clarify, horseshoe theory is nonsense invented by centrists. Take Kirk for example. The left hated him for being a terrible human being. Groypers hated him for not being a terrible enough human being. Superficially the same, but trying to accomplish vastly different outcomes.
horseshoe theory is nonsense invented by centrists.
It's not nonsense, it's an observation that as people become more politically extreme, they become defined more by their extremism than their ideology.
"Centrist" is a logical fallacy anyway. Nobody declares themselves a "centrist", there are right and wrong answers to political questions and it isn't going to be "in between".
horseshoe theory is nonsense invented by centrists
That's just what a person simultaneously on the Far-Left and Far-Right would want you to believe!
The left hated him for being a terrible human being. Groypers hated him for not being a terrible enough human being.
A bit more seriously, it wasn't "Groypers" who hated him quite so much as a particular set of far-right slacktivists who were jealous of his success and wanted in on his grift. If there is a single person who might have been held directly responsible for the Kirk shooting (other than the shooter himself), it was Nick Fuentes - who just so happened to be front row center filming when Kirk got-got.
I've seen conservatives compare Kirk to MLK, but I think the more accurate comparison would be Tupac.
go on
There’s a West Point study that had it’s link changed so that news articles referencing it got a 404 error. It still exists, but it has to be searched for directly to be found.
https://ctc.westpoint.edu/terrorist-groups/violent-far-right-terrorism/
If anyone wants to see it.
Edit: y'know what, here‘s more just in case anyone wants them before they disappear.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/show/u-s-sees-300-violent-attacks-inspired-far-right-every-year
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9335287/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35236192/
https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-united-states