No water for like 3 days to get that look

This is not a zero sum game. there's no competition. We can deal with both problems, we don't have to pick a side.

I'm convinced the current influencer body standard for women (huge asses, giant lips, etc) was some joke by plastic surgeons and they just rolled with it

Dude I like seeing sexy people on tv. If I want to look at something mediocre I can just look in a mirror.

They are all on T.

Me, spending 6 months fighting with (and losing to) body dysmorphia but not knowing what it was, since I'm a man and no one told me:

Has anyone ever said the first statement up there in the top-left? I wouldn't doubt there's some fringe group that would, but I also think they would be in the vast minority and you'd need to specifically go looking to find it. I dislike this kind of meme for that reason, it's sowing a divide that doesn't need to exist.

Yeah, it's the water. That's the problem

I've gone longer than 3 days without water and I look nothing like those guys. Wtf?

None of those guys have a healthy hard-worker or warrior body. They all have a dehydrated, 1% body fat gym bro body, just like Hollywood wants us to believe a healthy man looks like.

Apparently no one is allowed to have body hair.

This feels like "I'm 14 and this is deep" content.

It's obvious that all Hollywood, social media and advertising models are not the average person. Are there really people that think men would be exempt from this? I doubt many.

Sorry to link to that place but here: Hugh Jackman on mens' magazines vs womens'.

abandon all hope ye who enter this comment section

Robert Pattinson's physique as Batman was criticised by the mainstream (mostly by incels) as not being ripped and is skinny, even though experts say his body in "The Batman" is the most realistic built most men would be able to achieve.

Sure well defined muscles are aesthetically pleasing, but not nessa to be considered hot by most of the people you'll date

In case anyone is hoping to achieve the left side of the picture remember every one of the is on PEDs

But aquaman is from the water.

You don't have to live up to Hollywood standards, you just have to stop holding everyone else up to Hollywood standards. Just look at day time talk shows, those people have no problem finding a partner, and the only reason they end up on those shows is because they have no sense of shame.

No, it's just that in combination with all of the rest of the ways that society devalues and polices women - one set of unrealistic standards is applied to all women, with even exceptionally conventionally attractive women being devalued and dehumanized for how men perceive them.

I'm a trans woman. I've lived through body standards for men and for women. The expectations applied to my body and appearance now are, many, many orders of magnitude worse than they were before I transitioned. Like it's fucking everywhere. It's inescapable. Everywhere you look society and particularly heterosexual men are coming up with fantastical new ways to police how we look. It was genuinely shocking when I first came out because when it doesn't affect you, you become kinda oblivious to it. I knew that it existed, but experiencing it myself totally opened my eyes to how pervasive it is.

Gender expectations with body, appearance, and role are bad for both men and women. Unequivocally, yes, they are both bad, and neither should exist in any measure. But how those roles affect women is fundamentally different from how they affect men. How these expectations are applied, how our own bodies are weaponized against us in both directions, how socially our bodies and images affect our lives - those things are all completely incomparable.

It is important to talk about how men are affected by roles and expectations as well. I only say this at all because this comes up a lot in discussions of body image issues, and my experience with these things is unique. In my experience, most women are aware of how society devalues the bodies of some men and how it polices attributes of men's bodies in general. It's not women who are by and large erasing discourse about body shaming and how it affects men. it's largely coming from patriarchal men, who hold that men who don't fit the standard are inferior by strength of will or by genetics. A lack of masculinity. The majority of shaming comes from them. Not that none of it comes from women, just that those lines begin with patriarchal men and women weaponize those same things in response. We're not meant to be enemies here. It would be nice if the same men who complain that body image issues aren't being addressed for men would stop blaming women for it and also stop enforcing body image onto women themselves.

Not seeing the issue here, that's ju5T DAD b0d. /s

Really should be a legal requirement for a normal BMI to appear in media, then they wouldn’t be able load up on steroids

The main difference is, unless you're tragically born with shitty genes, guys can attain those bodies on the left with diet and exercise. Women on the other hand usually have to go to a different country to get discount surgery to look like a video game character so that chuds will pay attention to them.

Same women and men who criticize those unrealistic overdosed body types, would either wet their pants if one of those man proposed to them, or are wishing to achieve those results themselves. you can't resist animalistic urges. you won't believe the amount of gyms I've seen pop up in my city since the arrival of Instagram almost a 3000% increase. and everyone you talk to has become a protein intake expert.

As if the fact that it happens to men means it doesn't matter if it happens to women. "You, too" is now a valid form of argument.

🤦 You all are a bunch of kindergartners, I swear.

I wanna suck these dudes nipples

There's a big difference in body image set by men for women and body image set for men by men

Hollywood's standards for women are just a normal woman's body. Hollywood's standard for men is the body of a greek god.