Trump Says Israel Should Bomb Iran’s Nuclear Facilities and ‘Worry About the Rest Later’
Trump Says Israel Should Bomb Iran’s Nuclear Facilities and ‘Worry About the Rest Later’
At an event in North Carolina, Trump addressed the rising tensions in the Middle East and suggested the IDF should attempt to cripple Iran's nuclear program.
It wouldn't hurt to bring this up the next time someone tells you Trump is an anti-war candidate.
I know someone who was born in Palestine (but spent most of his life in the US) who will be voting for Trump because, and these are his words, “I just think he’ll be better”.
Not even worth having the convo.
86He knows Trump used 'Palestinian' as a slur, right?
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/06/trump-biden-debate-palestinian-israel/
50Lmao. Insanity. Man is hella hyped on Russian propaganda. Did he forget about Jerusalem?
24I doubt he is hopped on Russian propaganda. It comes from the fact that the Middle East was much more stable under Trump (who's government did try to deescalate tension) versus Biden who called himself a Zionist and supplied weapons used to carry out a genocide.
Any "but... but" won't ever make the above statement true regardless if Trump becoming president is the worse outcome for Palestine.
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If his version of 'better' involves MOABs and a giant set of smoking craters in the Middle East, then yes. Trump was the one that launched all those tomahawks on that base and assassinated an Iranian general unprovoked, though, so we kind of already know his MO. In addition to dropping that MOAB in Afghanistan.
There's only one choice this fall, and it certainly isn't Trump.
6I wouldn't exactly call that assassination unprovoked. That specific general had led the Quds Force in operations that caused the deaths of hundreds of US soldiers and the injuries of tens of thousands of other soldiers. Then there's the many, many other operations that the Quds Force have engaged in as part of Iran's proxy wars in the region. He definitely earned a spot on the shit list.
Was it a wise decision to target him? I don't know. But he had done plenty to deserve his fate.
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You know they have a big brain because of all the mental gymnastics they do all day, every day
2Yes, the situation in palestine has gotten far worse under biden who's completely supported this genocide. And their ideology/rhetoric isn't any better than trump TBH.
No point trying to convince people otherwise.
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there are rooms full of rich men looking to start ww3 so they can profit from it. trump is just parroting their desires
the us military budget literally never gets lowered even when they ask for it. but education, healthcare, anything helping human beings is always on the chopping block... always be cut back.
86I don't know about lowering military budget or education or healthcare budgets at all. The key seems to be the control what those funds are spent on, to funnel them to industries and beneficiaries who support the people who get voted into office.
I truly think the great majority of policy is set based on quid pro quo.
Even anti-abortion has many economical opportunities. Morning after pills will spike. Neighboring state abortion clinics will explode in business. Labor in areas where abortions by the poors is not available will see a growing demand in baby products and immediately and eventually a very low cost labor base to manufacture goods to sell elsewhere.
I do not believe politicians are dumb, on the contrary I think they have no sense of morality. The leadership of the party are vicious sociopathic megalomaniacs. They are experts at propaganda and manipulation via the media, where they work hand in hand with billionaire media owners.
Short and near term financial gains can buy you a ticket to salvation after the planet is ruined in 50-250 years. If they need to buy luxury proprety and loads of
slavesservants to retain their standing and quality of life, they are going to do that. If they are afraid of foreign powers taking control they have no issues starting proxy wars via russia or israel so the american people can spend hundreds of billions of dollars funding the military industrial complex contracts that them and their buddies benefit from, meanwhile sending the young high potential competitors to their children or grandchildren off to die on the front line.Anyway, the last thing they want to do is focus on taking care of the american people. IGMFY is the name of the game. The few rare exceptions like Bernie spin their wheels trying to effect real change and the majority of the other politicians try to stay out of the line of fire while promoting things that benefit themselves, typically only affecting them behind the scenes.
17If the Fallout TV show taught me anything, you cannot profit off of the apocalypse. That's literally antithetical to capitalism. That's why they disrespected the lore so much, right?
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Worry about the rest later when my bootlickers and I blame it all on democrats
64The dems are completely loyal to zionism. It's a race to the genocidal bottom.
-26I see the Republican fake leftist vote suppression folks are out in force on lemmy tonight. And on a post about Trump calling for nuclear war on the Middle East, no less! The BoTh sIDes is strong with this one.
8Lol. Sure Jan. Keep telling that to yourself
4Da komrade. Let's get some bodka together after we clock out at the kremlin.
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Ensuing global nuclear catastrophe? Don’t worry about it.
-Orange Dotard
25He talked about using nukes before he got elected, people still voted for him. A trump voter isn't going to be swayed by logic or facts or ethics.
24He talked about using Nukes while in office as well. IIRC, "Fire and Fury," was the first threat to NK.
9Then Kim Jong Un gave JT the ole "you are a strong man me respect you" ego stroke and suddenly Kim was a nice man.
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This is a great example of the ratchet effect. Genocide Joe has been supporting genocide all year, so Trump has to turn the ratchet even further right.
It doesn't help that people are subjected to extreme disinformation and propaganda. They've been denied even the most basic information about the genocide.
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About right for the man who had to be told he couldn't nuke a hurricane.
19Do not follow the orange turds advice.
18Is it possible to filter post titles that start "trump says"?
4It is! You can filter keywords in the Lemmy settings
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“Where’s the harm in that? I had an Uncle who was very good with the nuclear. One time, he dropped a nuclear bomb, jumped on top of the bomb, and then rode it down through the skies. One of the most beautiful scenes ever seen. Funny guy, my Uncle.” - added Donnie.
15likewise we should remove him from contention and worry about the rest later
14Wait, wasn't he the "for peace" candidate?
12He is the "I'll tell whatever lie might get people to clap and cheer" candidate.
26That's what he claims.
He claims a lot of things.
14"For Peace" for Americans, everyone else can bomb each other to death.
And by 'Americans', he only means those who support him. Those who don't get bombed, too.
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And Project 2025 advocates for mandatory military service. Coincidence?
12dude gonna start a nuclear war
12Let's start a nuclear war and worry about the rest later.
11I've got the concept of a nuclear victory.
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he's not famous for worrying about the consequences of his actions
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Sounds like Putins plan to take Kyiv within days, and worry about the rest later.
5Trump sounds like a tired old man who cannot think of all the consequences of a decision, so he’s just picking the laziest option.
There’s no precedent in history for multiple nuclear powers waging a war, or getting pulled into one. There’s no telling what can happen because we’ve simply never been here before.
And people who think their money or resources will save them from black swan events are forgetting all the previous black swan events which made losers of everyone. The Great Recession and Covid are two most recent ones.
Most of all though, the major winners of WW2 are utter failures now. Britain is crumbling and not even a shell of its former glory, and America is eating itself from the inside out thanks to Russian PsyOps war 300 while Republican losers are salivating after ww3.
So no, ww3 is not going to MAGA, but more like nail the MAGA coffin shut
4"We don't have any evidence (other than Yemen and very public statements) that Donald will do that, therefore we must collectively throw our ballots in the garbage for some reason."
-1The best strategy to minimize war :
Generous-tit-for-tat (GTFT)
... the best reference, i could find is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_action_problem
By this, muslim world has a lot of bombs to drop on iSSrael to prevent further wars.-13Are you saying all of those muslims are all the same and therefore should have the same interests? Seems a little racist to me.
Try to remember these are people with unique life experiences. If you were someone that had barrel bombs dropped you in the Syrian civil war, you're probably not going to be siding with the people that did that to you.
The over half a million deaths in that conflict probably weight more heavily on people's minds than the 40K deaths somewhere else. Nasrallah's death was celebrated in parts of Syria, and for good reason.
This isn't a conflict between Jews and Muslims no matter how much you want it to be. It's a conflict between Israel and Hamas (one of Iran's proxies) that has expanded to include other Iranian proxies (Hezbollah, Houthis) and potentially Iran itself. Iran's government sucks and is causing a lot of horrible things to happen throughout the Middle East. One of their proxies took things too far and Israel isn't fucking around anymore.
-8Yes, i want Muslims to stop waging war between themselves and you are absolutely right that they are not doing peace at all between themselves, on the contrary. My hope here is completely disconnected from reality : you are absolutely right.
Not only that but also, this "tit for tat" strategy to decrease war is not applied at all in these many conflicts ... although it is demonstrated to be the way to minimize war.0
More honest than biden/harris's brainless subservience.
-20Hey, remember that other thread you posted in earlier today where you tried to claim you weren't pro-Trump? That was fun.
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