The same goes for third parties in First Past the Post systems.

would someone like to explain to me why dem turnouts were SO FUCKING ASS this cycle?

Did you guys just like, forget to vote? What the fuck happened?

Its only been 24hrs and this post aged like milk.

And thus, instead of fighting the actual enemy, the republicans, you're antagonising the people who are more reasonable. Next time you can do it like France and call leftist crazy extremists so you'll seem less hypocritical about it.

You Americans are really weird in that regard. As a foreigner, both your parties are fucking horrible. To demonstrate what I mean: one party wants to ban abortions, the other party says that unless you vote for them, the bad guys will take away your abortions and then they proceed to do absolutely nothing about it.

So yeah, one of your parties is almost cartoonishly evil, the other is plain old adult-level evil.

It's not that democrats are any better than republicans, they're just smarter about pretending they're not evil.

Making wild leaps of interpretation and assumption is the only way Democrats have any points.

Some of us are actually not Democrats or Republicans because we really think both sides are bad in different ways. I still voted though.

I think both Dems and Republicans suck in very different and not proportionate ways, but I am also a very big proponent of voting. Go vote! It's your duty.

If third parties wanted to actually do some good in the country, you'd see them running locally and encouraging either ranked-choice voting or STAR voting (Score, then automatic runoff).

Yup, they know they’re outnumbered so they try every trick in the book to stop the Democrat bloc surplus from voting.

Looking to shut up those people complaining about both sides from the sidelines? Put them in the game by passing electoral reform in your state.

Since they seem to know it all, let them show us how it's done by replacing First-past-the-post voting, passing equal access and airtime laws, and switching away from a perpetual election cycle to something shorter and more reasonable.

Get them to prove to us they know how to do things by making third parties viable and doing away with the infamous spoiler effect that is inherent with FPTP voting.

More people involved in the poltical process, more people voting, more people voting = more democratic votes, more chances to defeat the republicans, more people to call out bullshit on the debate stage, no more canceled debates because of giant man babies.

Electoral reform is just win after win for the American people. I know the election season has people exhausted, but things don't have to be this way. We can be free.

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The destruction of the republican party via increased voter and representation rights represents the single greatest possible "progressive" leftward shift of the US political window. Emphasis on "possible". Conservatives are a minority party and their extreme views do not represent modern America.

The road to a more progressive, equitable future is through the democrats. It doesn't end there.

Republicans winning offices means more long lasting legislation to clear, more conservative judicial appointments, etc.

Teaching THIS (2024) democratic party a lesson is worthless if it comes with 30+ years of conservative judicial backsliding.

Find your polling location. Go vote!

Your ballot will be deciding much more than just the president. Even if you did theoretically think both presidential canidates were equal in all regards (they aren't), then vote for the down ballot races!

Keep your local school boards from having insane people on it that will ban books and harm your kids or your neighbors's.

Vote for the constitutional ammendment questions and ballot initiatives. For instance, many states have either pro and anti abortion questions on their ballot.

I voted, that should be enough, same as anyone.

Also, both sides are bad, in different ways.

100% this.

highest voter turnout in history

nailbiter race between fascists and liberals

Republicans tell me the same thing.

voter suppression and voting are not the same thing.

a vote for third parties is as valid as a vote for a primary color.