2y ago

I don't know how to feel but I know I'm laughing

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Where do they think meat comes from?
- Their mom buys it for them
- From the store, duh!

People's perspectives on things are weird. I'm totally fine with vegans, vegetarians, meat eaters, whoever. But when someone who eats meat is excited because they think meat tastes good...... why did you think they eat it??? Obviously they think it's yummy, and obviously, to a certain degree, they see animals as a source of that. If you want to fight against that fine, but don't act surprised that it exists.
- Lots of people don't really understand where meat comes from. They understand the concept that an animal has to die, but they prefer their meat comming out of a plastic package.
  Example: we used to raise our own animals, I knew every single one by name and saw them grow up. When it was time to slaughter them we brought them to the butcher, got a carcass and the fur back. Guests could help feed the animals, feel the fluffiest pillow out of treated fur and I could tell them the name of the animal we served. However, most of them (obviously all meat eaters) could not comprehend at all, how we could slaughter and process those absolutely cute things.
  I prefer to know where my meat comes from. Many people prefer not to, so they can loose appetite or get upset if they see the animal before it is brought to the butcher.
  
  Everyone should, at least once, kill something for their meal. It makes you appreciate it, even if I still buy meat from Costco, etc.
- Its considered disrespectful.
  The moral take of meat eating is that we respect the animals we kill to survive, and that we dont waste or belittle the animal just because its food.
  This is the reason local farms are "more ethical" than commercial farming, because theyre more likely to treat the animal with respect.
  Ramsey here is getting flack cause its kinda disrespectful to the living thing he is going to eat.
  
  I don't think the animal was aware of the mockery
  
  I don't think he can say anything that is comparable in disrespect to what happens in the average slaughterhouse (bad compared to ethically sourced meat? Sure, you could argue that)
  
  No, we eat everyone because they are TASTY! What Gordon is doing is AWESOME! I do the same every time I see any animal. ALL ANIMALS ARE FOOD!!!
  
  Respect is a human concept. It isn't in nature and it's just to make people like you feel better about the fact that life means you gotta kill something to keep living. At least food is delicious.
- I don't think 'surprised' is the word that really fits what is going on here. I'm a meat eater and even i think this is Unnecessary... inappropriate... in the same way that I hate idiot drivers even though I drive a car too.
  but then your argument doesn't really have any relevancy if it's anything but pretending people are without the worldly experience you deem to have and believe we're just over here clutching pearls over it.
- People are pretty obviously protesting his behavior prior to dining/slaughter.
  There’s such a thing as responsible, informed omnivores who don’t like this objectifying bone head (wonder what home life is like with Gordon) or his behavior towards something that will give it’s life to sustain us.

Do you ever feel like modern society just wants to be outraged all of the time?
In the unlikely event humanity survives our many man made crises of this era, might this come to have been known as the Karen Age?
- That's because the threshold for writing "X causes outrage" in a headline is "one random nobody tweeted angrily about it". For any given topic you can always find at least a single person who is angry about it. So this might just as well be known as the Shitty Clickbait Journalism Age.
  
  Then again, people do love to go with the outrage train, even if it is something they don't care that much about.
- Outrage sells clicks and views better than anything except maybe disaster with a side of pretty young white girl.
  They want to sell you outrage. So that’s what you see all the time.
  
  Indeed. It's less modern society and more three Twitter handles that are probably the same person retweeting themselves because you can find someone saying anything on Twitter to justify any made up faux outrage headline.
  Meanwhile the 'smart' people eat it up. How many comments in this thread lol?
- Do you ever feel like modern society just wants to be outraged all of the time?
  How DARE you! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
  
  Relevant.
- Stress helps keep the ADHD at bay.
- Just someone outraged.
  Most people probably moved on without any reactions.
  Some stayed leaving comments for whatever reason.
  The story we hear is written by the latter group, even if it is a tiny minority.
- I think that's part of it. I think it is also caused by the fact that everyone is outraged by different things. If you get a big enough audience someone is bound to be outraged about something even if everyone is being mostky reasonable.
  
  My reaction to outrage:
  "Meh."
- https://youtu.be/eAoR4h6SQGg

Why can't I choose my lamb or cow while it's still alive the way I choose my lobster at Red Lobster?
- Because you're gonna eat the whole lobster yourself. You'd have to get a quorum of the other customers who are going to eat it.
  
  He's a chef. Have the guarantee that he doesn't eat all the food he chooses to cook.
- You can if you go buy one from a farmer. In many rural places, you can then take it (or have it sent) to a butcher, and then pick up your coolers of fresh meat cuts to fill your deep freezer at home. I know people who do this, say once or twice a year. Better quality meat, often the animal had a better life on a local small farm, and per pound, far better price over the course of the year.
- You absolutely can it's just logistically awkward. Just think about it, how often do you eat lobster versus how often you eat steak?
  But I'm fairly sure that if you turned up at a farm you can actually do this, at least once or twice. Although long term I'm not sure it would be in the farmers interest because it's probably more hassle than it's worth.
  
  There's also hanging time if they mean literally at the restaurant.
  Farms do this all the time, but they just take an order for a whole or half a steer and deliver it to the butchers. Who picks it up depends on circumstances. I don't know if people do half on smaller live stock.

Ironic, maybe stopping eating meat if you think it's horrible to view animals as walking meals?
- One can eat meat without celebrating that an animal had to die to get it. The celebration just makes you look like a serial killer...
  
  look you're still murdering animals either way, ramsay just isn't pretending meat comes from plastic packages
  
  Truth is better than ignorance
  
  Are you an animal? Yes. Do lions fucking mourn their kill?no that'd make them insane. It's crazy to feel bad about being a natural predator lol!
- How is that at all ironic. People are protesting his savagery in his behavior prior to doing something most of us do and have always done since the beginning of time.
  It’s obvious to the rest of us (obviously not you) that we’re upset not about his meal eating, but because of his taunting and his apathy.
  Just you out here pushing self-confirming narratives

I looked and this isn't satire. Somehow.
Any meat eater who is offended by his statements needs to find a big ol mirror and stare in it until they ratify that feeling with their diet.
- That headline is probably based on a single tweet by some nobody, and they're probably vegan.
  
  ...and they’re probably vegan.
  I'm not so sure about that. I think lots of vegans would appreciate lampshading the brutality of slaughtering cute little baby sheep.
  My bet would be on an omnivore that thinks of themselves as an animal lover getting upset by being made to feel cognitive dissonance.

Jesus Christ people are sensitive
- "Oh yeah? Well, I was nailed to a cross."
  Jesus Christ

At least he's honest.

What doesn't outrage tiktok? Wait until they find out people who fish are generally super excited about hooking a fish.
- That's the thing tho, you're not allowed to be excited and have fun.
  You need to stop.
  
  Sometimes I think the simple notion of some person, somewhere, even existing is cause of aggravation for someone.

As a vegetarian in this comment section
- yummy yummy another grass eater
  
  I never really understand why people find it so entertaining to make fun of vegetarians and vegans.
  Their choice results in less suffering, plain and simple. Maybe you aren't willing to change your diet, that's your decision. But if others are willing to put effort into changing their diets and become vegetarian because it's in line with their values, that's admirable and should be applauded.
  Please don't make fun of people who put time and energy into pursuing their values. Not if you don't see yourself as a bully.

I've shot and killed my own cow, I skinned it, cut it, and roasted it over a massive fire pit. The locals were loving every second of it happening, and I can totally agree with Ramsay.
Just remember to use Mint Sauce/Jelly on the lamb, its like opening a portal to flavourtown.
- Chicken with a knife. Oh so so good. If you are going to eat meat you should be willing to do it yourself at least once in your life.
  
  That sounds dangerous to eat
- I love lamb. I love organ meats and I wish we had a larger variety of animals available where I live. I miss italy... I love handling meat and making it into something delicious. I would watch the lamb behind my house and be excited knowing Christmas and Easter was coming just so we got to eat roast lamb.
- To be fair, these are very young animals. Lamb is just a name they use for "baby sheep" to make it more palatable. It's the same with "veal".
  I eat lots of animals, but I don't like eating the baby ones. Haven't had one in at least a decade, and I really don't think I'm missing out on anything.
  
  The reason for the name isn't to make it more palatable, at least originally. The name for the animal comes from the peasants, speaking old English, and the name for the food came from the nobility speaking French, who didn't have to deal with the animals. We call adult sheep meat mutton, for example, not to make it palatable, but because of the history of the language. Same for deer/venison, pig/pork, cow/beef, etc.
  Edit: actually I don't know if this is true for lamb, but for veal and the rest it's true.
  
  To be fair, they taste delicious.
  
  Lol yeah they could have gone to college or cured cancer.
  
  The lambs typically live longer than chickens.
  
  Very palatable

Lmao. Okay. This outrage thing is just getting out of control. Don't these people have anything useful to worry about?
- No. These people live off their wealthy parents and bored to death, because they're useless shits with only hobby of theirs is being offended online by everything.
- No that's the whole point of outrage culture, to keep you outraged about things that don't matter so you take it up the ass on the things that do since no one complains about those

You fucking donkey
- Is this a thing he says? Only place I've heard that remark was in The Menu.

I'm torn because I'm not offended by it but I do think it's pretty bad taste. I know meat comes from animals. I know animals don't understand English. It's just a weird thing to post in my opinion
"Hehehe, these animals were bred to be slaughtered" is a dark but not really funny enough to be dark humor
- I mean, it's reality.
  
  Yeah but it's weird to gloat about it

I do this at the county fair all the time before the auction. "ooo, that one looks tasty" "look at the haunches on that fucker he looks delicious" it's so fun
- Also at the aquarium before we go to sushi
  
  And at the kids park before I... uh nevermind

Gordon Freeman - Lambda
Gordon Ramsay - Lamb, die!

That's Tiktok's line?
- Nothing interesting happened on June 4th, 1989.

but they are yummy.
- And fluffy

One year within the last decade, my dad selected a lamb for Christmas from a local farm. He took a picture of it and had it printed for display with the meat Christmas day. Kept gleefully, excitedly commenting on how happy the lamb looked as it frolicked with the cow in the picture, kept doing this cute little clap when he was talking about the lamb.
Mom didn't find his excitement tasteful, but the lamb was the best we'd had.
I totally dig this energy. Adorable.

Oh no, after the TikTok army cancelled Eminem, they to the same with Gordon Ramsay.

People wouldn’t care nearly as much if he said this while standing over a pond full of fish, but since they’re cute, fuzzy lambs, it’s Crossing The Line.
- If you're okay with eating meat, you should also be okay with how it gets to your plate. Seems only fair.
- To be fair, fish brains are much further removed than other mammals.
  Mammals have memories and can love. They have opinions and personalities.
  The distinction that I would better is how up in arms some people get at the idea of eating dogs or cats but other mammals are perfectly fine.
  
  Fish definitely have memories. They definitely learn who feeds them. Ask any observant aquarium owner.

Hah ! try Depardieu

Isn't this fake?

So... if you're not acknowledging where the meat comes from, that's bad
But if you are acknowledging it, it's bad as well?
Many people who eat meat do that not while lying to themselves about where it comes from as many vegetarians/vegans assume. They just legitimately do not feel bad for the animals they eat. Just as so many of us don't feel bad about the clothes they wear or the smartphone batteries they use.
The world is full of abuse, suffering and other such bullshit. You can't feel bad about all of it, or you'd go insane because you can't escape it. Besides, the brain just numbs itself at a certain pöint. So you need to allocate your compassion to a few of the sufferings you know of. Many go with animals for that. Many don't.
So the question isn't why the person eating meat is heartless, the question is what kind of pity the person not eating meat left out for it.
That's how my mind processes the whole thing.
- See this is one of the reasons I started hunting. I figured if I couldn't morally deal with personally killing and preparing the creature, no more meat. It's easy to eat meat when it's a lump in plastic wrap on a store shelf versus when it's like standing in front of you. (I leave the actual butchering to professionals though). Wasting food hits different when you saw it alive and you're the one who unalived it.
  
  This is exactly the reason I want to get into hunting!
- You can acknowledge without celebrating.
  
  When there is an expensive steak in front of you, do you just acknowledge it or do you celebrate it?

It is a bit harsh.

Is this figure still remotely relevant in any wat?

Politically correct people are at it again.

Too many snowflakes online lol

Gordon is an animal murderer. All carnist chefs are. And carnists in general.
- Judge not etc. It's okay to be passionate, but the world is pretty complicated rights now and living ethically isn't easy.
  
  I didn't say being an animal murderer is bad. If you think animal murder isn't okay then that's on you.
- carnist
  Sigh... Where to begin? Biology, perhaps? The human body is omnivorous meaning we can live off both plants and meat, though a normal healthy diet (outside modern replacements) requires some meat / fish. We don't eat meat because we're evil, we eat meat because we can and well, also should.
  You can be a vegan now thanks to modern society and I applaud you if you make that choice but stop the "better than thou" act already. If modern society falls I'd like to see the vegans after about a year; they're either dead or ex vegan.
  If killing animals for food is evil then all cats, lions, dogs, and generally all predators are evil.
  If you want to realistically improve the lives of farm animals, then go for laws on better treatment while they live.
  
  I eat meat and try to reduce my consumption because I recognize industrial meat production is wasteful, causes needed suffering, and has a big ecological footprint.
  Who cares about vegans if modern society fails apocalyptically? I'd rather work to prevent such an event and a huge part of the population would be doomed regardless of their diet. I salute those putting in the extra effort to be fully vegetarian/vegan even if I don't quite agree with some of their extremist militantism.
  Our efforts would likely be better placed encouraging more people to reduce their meat consumption. It's a more realistic goal and can have a big impact.
  
  we eat meat because we can
  Truly the greatest reason anyone has had to do anything.
  and well, also should.
  Because we evolved to do it? Are you saying we should do every single thing we evolved to do? Let me just go shit in the woods and die in childbirth then I guess
  If modern society falls I'd like to see the vegans after about a year
  Gee fucking whiz, maybe the morality of an action depends on context and the available choices. Maybe doing unpleasant things to survive in an apocalypse is actually completely reasonable. Or maybe, just maybe, killing someone to save your own life is still bad.
  If killing animals for food is evil then all cats, lions, dogs, and generally all predators are evil.
  Evil is a choice. The sun isn't evil for giving people skin cancer. Volcanoes and hurricanes aren't evil. And neither are nonsapient animals that can't just choose to eat meat. If you want to be treated as the equal of a cat then go shit in sand and live off mice. Or, use your big brain to actually do something good.
  If you want to realistically improve the lives of farm animals, then go for laws on better treatment while they live.
  Yeah, sure. Let's start with a few simple policies to help out the animals: no milking, no forced pregnancy, no genetic engineering to make them lay eggs every day, and no killing. That should help the animals out.

I think you’re laughing cos you’re a bit of a moron, amused by a boomer edge lord.
- Gordon is Gen X not a boomer
  
  He’s 56? So born 66/67 ?

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