So the recent hate towards Pedro Pascal is JK and her loyalists making shit up because he spoke out that she's an awful person?
Just want to make sure I have that right. He spoke up so now they are making shit up to try and defame him? Do I have this bullshit right?
He also spoke up about palestine so that could have something to do with it
He's a relative of the Allende family. He spent his childhood as a refugee after the US installed Pinochet and his family had to flee Chile. Idk why his anti imperialism would shock anyone.
US "installed"? Surely not, only bad countries do such things. The US of A is the only beacon of light and freedom and democracy and justice and Good Values(TM) in this world.
Because a lot of people take abuse and turn right around and dish it out to somebody below them. Case in point: Israel vs. Palestine. Much love to Pedro for not perpetuating that cycle, though.
The fact that people take JK Rowling seriously saddens me.
no they defend her, because shes the terf-queen, transphobes stick together.
All my homies vote for Pedro.
Pascal is loved and will not tolerate people talking shit about his trans sister.
Rowling at this point subsists on a half assed crumbling potter legacy she's using to fund transphobia. She went after tennant and since that backfired bigtime her calvary of fuckos are now trying Pascal. It will end just as badly and they will never learn
You can't go after Tennant 'cause he'll just hop in the TARDIS and undo every point you tried to make
TERFs will just make shit up. It’s absolutely unhinged. Rowling also has them denying that Nazis killed trans people - they’ve started to claim that the Nazis issued “transvestite passes” (which the Weimar Republic did - famously not the Nazi government) based on a book of photographs someone published of Nazi soldiers doing drag.
The Nazis tortured and murdered trans people. Some did drag because they thought it was funny, heck the US military did official drag shows during WW2. People do drag because it’s funny, that doesn’t mean they accept trans people. It’s unhinged how willing people are to lie and spread the lies of others in order to justify their hate.
how willing people are to lie and spread the lies of others in order to justify their hate.
It's simply the required narrative not to call themselves monsters. The bigger the horror, the bigger the lie.
Yep doing drag shows because it's funny is the opposite of accepting trans people. It mocks them, and women too.
It’s a performance art, and like any other form of performance it can be used to be shitty, but it’s not inherently mocking of women or trans people. Some of the stuff I’ve seen on RuPaul has made me cringe, but I’ve also seen queens that dress up like church marms and do a Betty Bowers/old school Colbert skewering of the Christian right.
Hey now, drag queens and kings aren't the enemy.
Phantasms are one hell of a drug.
It’s exhausting, because once you debunk them on something, they just move on to something else. It’s easy to just make up shit, it takes work to prove it wrong. There’s no guarantee anyone sees the debunking either.
It's truly beyond me how people have the energy to keep with celebrities
Since it's beyond you, I'll take the time to explain. Different people have different values. Some people think it's interesting to pay attention to the intersection of culture and politics... so they take their energy that isn't devoted to the necessary tasks of staying alive and devote some of it to following this.
Some people take that energy and participate in online communities. Instead of devoting that energy to that intersection, they post and comment. Its their energy and their value system.
Some people aren't interested in either. I hope this simple answer has bought it into your range of understanding.
yeah he's a great fella as far as we know, his sister is trans and he's a very vocal critic of JKR and other terfs
Your post has me realizing how much I don't give a shit about.
I honestly don't even know who Pedro Pascal is.
damn, how much arch are you using?
I didn't recognize the name either until @Warl0k3@lemmy.world said who he is, after which my brain cells told me that i knew that before. e: but i'm notoriously bad at remembering actors names and faces - i often do not care enough to remember them, even in stuff i like; if i remember single actors, i stored that information primarily per cultural osmosis.
He's a pretty famous actor. With two popular shows running simultaneously (sort of) that contain him.
Some people also don’t like it when someone is “overexposed” and in everything. They liked it when he was on the rise, in Game of Thrones and then he broke out with Mandalorian. People were happy because he played the role keeping the helmet on 99% of the season…especially flying in the face of the Halo series a while later.
But because he was now “popular” and appearing in more films and shows, this is bad now.
For some anyway. Not me. I love him still.
its because he supports his trans sibling, the current flavor of hate is transphobia of right wingers.
That makes him even better in my book.
I personally don't get it. He's successful. It wasn't handed to him like some nepo baby. He worked hard and did great jobs to achieve where he's at.
I honestly don't get it. You can have someone like Taylor Swift who releases an album every couple weeks and if you speak ill of her then you've essentially become Satan. So it's ok for one person to be constantly in the publics face but it's not ok for another person?
if you speak ill of her then you’ve essentially become Satan
I didn't think this was true until I encountered this from my sister-in-law. I just mentioned that I didn't care for her music and suddenly I became a misogynist because there's no other possible reason for not liking the output of the greatest singer and songwriter in human history. I countered with a very long list of women artists whose music I did like and she said those women all make masculine music. I was like "Kate Bush and Tori Amos make masculine music?"
Crabs in a bucket.
I'm certain many of the people that think PP is overexposed feel the same about TS
I thought the breakout was Narcos.
Yep
can someone fill me in please, I missed the while situation save a couple memes.
Pedro Pascal's sister is a trans woman. He has been publicly very vocal on the subject of trans rights and inclusion. Consequently, a lot of transphobes, chuds, and miscellaneous fascists have been targeting him for a while and trying to smear his reputation any way they can. I don't really pay much attention to celebrity stuff so I don't know to what extent JK Rowling is personally involved in that, but given that she has been a very outspoken anti-trans bigot for some time, I would not be surprised to learn she was egging her followers on to that end.
Heaven forbid someone even suggests JK isn't an advertiser freindly content creator over her hate speech. Expect the full Karen free speech rant.
Pascal supports his family member, and these troglodytes make it their mission to prevent him from making a living.
I have a rule of thumb in life. If it reminds me of Nazi rhetoric, I stay far away. It is rarely applicable but crucial when it is. I forget sometimes that there are people that not only dont think the same as me, they actually think the opposite.
Just looked his sister up and on the photos she looks happy. I'm happy for her.
Dude is chill and she is not. That is enough for me.
This like when they cancelled James Gun and got him fired from Marvel? I haven’t seen anything about Pedro Pascal.
They've been accusing him of being too grabby with his women co-stars (no evidence of this, and the co-stars in question say he isn't) and whining that he's just in too many movies/shows these days (no more than other prolific actors). Smells like astroturfing and surprise, it is.
More like astroTERFing amirite?
wasnt that dwayne johnsons doing.
It certainly puts it in new light the same way everyone randomly coming out to say they hate Coldplay after some CEO was outed as having an affair during one of their concerts.
Hey! I hated Coldplay way before that shit happened, plus them outing a shitty ceo actually made them slightly cooler.
Ehhhh honestly saying that you hate Coldplay has been a thing for quite a while. They're a highly successful pop act that is well past the peak of their popularity, that's just gonna happen
X&Y is still a great album though
Weird, I haven’t heard anyone say they hated Coldplay for this. In fact, I’d say that Coldplay is one of those bands that is regularly hated on, well before any of the cheating CEO and now, if anything, Coldplay is more liked, even if indirectly just because the situation was funny and meme’d so much.
As far as I can tell, Coldplay only have the one song, that they take apart and reassemble in different configurations. They are the musical equivalent of beige, and appeal solidly to the middle-classes. Hating Coldplay has been the thing to do for decades. It’s music for people who know nothing about music.
That's odd that you'd describe them as Nickelback or worse, modern country music, when part of why they've gained and lost fans over the years is because their albums tended to have different sounds to them.
They have more than one song.
It's just that you can't tell them apart.
They didn't do anything. Those two ousted themselves.
Oh I disagree. I used to listen to Coldplay pretty often and people have hated on Coldplay for decades. Some found the sound boring, and I recall accusations of them copying music from others, though I never looked into those claims. I say used to because I feel like my tastes in music changed and they don't come up in my playlist much anymore.
Mine was just the way too fucking overplayed viva vida song. When you hear it 12 times an hour from multiple stations, any band quickly gets irritating.
I don’t hate the guy I just think he’s a boring actor.
And that's completely fine, something like that is just a matter of taste anyway. But trying to smear his reputation and spread false shit about him just because someone doesn't like him? That's not cool at all - and even worse if it's just because he's not a hateful piece of shit!
Also fuck JK Rowling, that terf bastard deserves nothing but a kick to the shin.
I feel like that happens any time someone gets over saturated in pop culture.
Fuck JK Rowling. Bitch never has gotten a dime from me. I hated on that shit in middle/high school when it was coming out.
I don't find him boring (yet); I just think he needs to be more selective in accepting roles, considering how distinctive-looking he is.
Yup.
He's not bad but he's doing Nick Cage level of shit. He is put in roles he's clearly unfit for. So many characters which HAVE to be charesmatic... But he simply isn't.
He needs to start picking his roles wiser.
He and Nic are both incredible in The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent, imo.
who could hate daddy?
What’s with people and celebrities? Go live your life.
I am so unused to ads here that it took me whole minute to comprehend this.
haha same
forced down our throat by being cast in every single movie that's released
This is just one of the dumbest things I've ever read. The man's only been in 14 movies over the past 5 years. Something like 1500 major studio productions were released over that time. Why do you keep choosing to shove Pedro Pascal down your own throat?
Only 14 movies in the past 5 years? Only?! Do you understand how insanely high that number is? lol. Most big actors do like 1 a year.
It seems like he's in a lot of things, because the things he appears in tend to be good, and he's good in them.
I saw the same complaint about Rami Malek a while back, and his imdb profile is relatively sparse for a two-decade acting career. He just happens to be memorable.
If this was Reddit 6 years ago, I’d give you a star. ⭐️
Huh, when you put it that way it sounds like a lot - three films a year for a decade and a half, plus the Mandalorian, etc.
As with almost everything, I reckon the truth is in the middle - that there's a tribal backlash by those that consider "woke" a slur, and it's being amplified by those who are genuinely overexposed to him.
"most people"? Citation needed
you want a citation on the opinion that most people are sick of an actor who is in a lot of movies and TV shows lately?
Do you want this peer reviewed or is just regular polling ok :P
You really need a citation for that? In a topic asking why there's so much hate towards him? You need a citation for me answering the question? Did you ask OP for a citation? Are you asking every person who replies in here for citations?
In case anyone was wondering I did some web searches and this “groping” stuff is basically made up by anti-trans activists as far as I can tell. So I’m not sure if this person is one of them or just parroting their smear unknowingly, but they can be safely ignored.
some MAGA chud named "freedomadvocate" being a transphobe. how surprising.
also a vocal proponent of ideologies that the public overwhelmingly disagree with, and are openly hateful towards anyone who disagrees with them
This is news to me, what's he been saying?
No news here, just the usual bigoted "I dislike a thing, so I assume everyone else quietly agrees with me and is too afraid to speak out against the woke mob" bullshit that racists, sexists, homophobes, and (in this case) transphobes have been using for decades.
pedro has a trans family member and he advocates for trans rights. the OP is mistaking being pro trans rights with the more muddied waters around trans athletes in competitive sports. hilariously if they knew anything about m2f trans population and how biochemistry works they'd quickly realize the estrogen these individuals take rapidly normalizes them to their gender's average in performance.
I don't know if it is most people, but Pedro seems to be in a point of oversaturation. I can see some people tiring of him. I can also see some news outlets trying to make money by putting out negative coverage of him.
Which would also get amplified by trans bigots trying to cancel him.
You know you do that have to watch the stuff he's in, right? If you're sick of him then stop paying attention to him and letting him live in your head. And as for the anxiety thing, kind of a dick move to just assume someone's a creep just because physical touch helps with their anxiety. As someone that had anxiety, I may not relate one-to-one but I definitely get it.
I don’t watch the things he’s in, so yeah, I know that. I’m answering the question that OP asked. You know, the whole point of this thread.
It’s strange how he only needs physical touch from attractive women co-stars, never the unattractive women or the men - that’s why it comes across as very creepy/predatory. You’re acting like there are no predatory people in the world using excuses like anxiety to abuse people.
Idk I only know him for him listing russian literature in his top6 books lol
And? Russian lit gave us an entire genre of games. Plus a bunch of philosophy and probably other stuff but c'mon bro stalker.
Let's give them the benefit of the doubt. The comment states that they don't really know Pedro Pascal and can be taken as just funny, absurd and quite neutral.
Cause it's never stalker (and honesty, who reads stalker?), it's boring tolstoyevsky stuff, which he listed at top. I just find it funny that I know the guy because of his shit taste in books, I imagine he's ok otherwise.
what does that have to do with anything?
Uh no. He’s just in everything now. It’s overexposure. You can admit to that and also despise JK Rowling.
You can admit to that and also despise JK Rowling.
And do you?
Yes. I think Pascal has been in too much stuff lately. And yes I think JK is a dark hearted nut job. I will never understand her vitriol towards trans people. These are not mutually exclusive ideas.
Who the fuck cares. He seems like a good dude and we all know she’s a complete piece of shit. Let’s not give her or her shitbag followers oxygen.