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Winamp is going open source, and it feels like the early 2000s again

www.xda-developers.com Winamp is going open source, and it feels like the early 2000s again

Don't think of it as beating a dead horse, think of it as whipping the llama's ass once more.

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This is bullshit.

Until I see an OSI approved license, it's not open source.

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- I am so sick of these rubbish licensing efforts calling themselves Open Souce. Fair code is a new atrocity.
  
  There is no repository link. There is no open source code.
  
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  The Winamp announcement linked to in the article never says "Open source", that's the article writer not understanding the difference.
  
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- Even CLA + GPL/MIT would suffice
  
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  I disagree.
  
  CLA gives them total ownership of the code (all contributors are surrendering their copyright), and allows them to change license at any point in time, including making it closed source.
  
  If you're contributing code to a project with CLA you're not contributing to Open Source, you're working for a company for free.
  
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- https://about.winamp.com/press/article/winamp-open-source-code This page says they aren't actually making the code open source until September 24, 2024, a date that has not happened yet...
  
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Source-available ≠ open source

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What's the licence? It doesn't sound like "open source" and sounds more like "source available".

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- BSA
  
  Bullshit Source Available
  
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- This line gives me some hope that it will actually be open-source:
  
  Winamp will remain the owner of the software and will decide on the innovations made in the official version.
  
  Would they really bother to specify "official version" if it was only source-available and forks weren't allowed?
  
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  In the official announcement, they have very carefully and deliberately avoided the term "open source".
  
  "Open source" has a very specific meaning, and probably the key part for this is if there are any restrictions on what you do with any derivative software you create.
  
  Can you use the Winamp source code to create a new media player and sell it? If there is say a restriction on if you can use it in a company or on if you can sell it, then it's not "open source" even though you can publish noncommercial software based on it.
  
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"Hey Internet, come do development on our product for free so we can monetize it. TIA"

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- It annoys me, too, because there's various open-source projects already, like QMMP and Audacious.
  
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  Are you complaining that they're going open source?
  
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- They just want more people being pushed to their NFT marketplace while getting free development. It's astounding they are getting so much good press.
  
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I went to the mall today and it felt like the early 2000s again

Look I know it is barely on topic but that shit was so wild I had to

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- What happend
  
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  IG shopping malls haven't changed very much in 20 years
  
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  Lol sorry, I meant the fashion! Everything on sale and what people were wearing. ... I don't leave my house a lot lol
  
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I wish foobar2000 was open source too. Maybe this will encourage the creator to do so.

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- Agree, also I never encountered other software so flexible in user interface. Every feature can be placed with panels everywhere to your own liking. The whole app interface is like a canvas. Took me a while to get the hang of it but after that ...
  
  Wished other apps were this flexible.
  
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The sad thing about this is that 90% of the skins available for WinAmp since then are gone. You can't find them to download them anymore.

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- There is Winamp skin museum - https://skins.webamp.org/
  
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  Oh, my trusty old Wolfplayer is on there too. Brings me back…
  
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Now I can add a Plex integration. Finally my CD collection can return to winamp

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- What's wrong with Plexamp?
  
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  It does not whip the llamas ass.
  
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  The desktop app ain't great and I want milk drop
  
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The main reason I like Winamp: Advance Visualization Studio. And skins. Bring back skins in applications. I don't care if 99% are ugly and unusable. We don't need jerks like Gnome team deciding what everything should look like.

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- Bring back skins in applications.
  
  I love the Cristal Disk Mark / Info applications for this. Some cool Japanese guy, going by hiyohiyo, develops them as free software. And he is not afraid to make editions decorated with presumably his favourite Anime girls
  
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- Oh man, my whole desktop experience used to be themed. I would spend hours finding the perfect skins.
  
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Now we just need open source directx and direct draw so all the visualizations work and we’re in business.

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- Mesa + DXVK/WineD3D/VKD3D/Gallium-Nine.
  
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It really whips the llama's ass.

-RIP Wesley Willis

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- It really did.
  
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This really whips the llamas ass.

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Why did they wait so long

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- They just want to get profit from the purchase but they are no longer competitive.
  
  Looks like they are looking for suckers to contribute to their code base for free without even making it actually open source.
  
  IMO at this point WinAmp does not offer anything beyond name recognition and nostalgia. Isn't qmmp essentially an open source version of WinAmp?
  
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  IMO at this point WinAmp does not offer anything beyond name recognition and nostalgia. Isn't qmmp essentially an open source version of WinAmp?
  
  Even as nostalgia, I just tried out loading a winamp skin from the winamp skin museum someone linked further up with qmmp and it handles that just fine too. So I'll be just using that going forward.
  
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The lammas ass gets whipped again

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What does this mean for WACUP ?

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But I have already switched to AIMP

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- And it's good.
  
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I wonder what the aim is. Trying to get relevant again? I haven't used Winamp in many many years. I'm a Spotify / YouTube kind of guy now. I drank the koolaid. It's a little late and things like VLC have a pretty solid offering now, without all gotchas that this will have (such as you apparently can't call it Winamp and will have to sign away a sacrificial child to actually get the code)

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- VLC is a video player. While it of course can play audio files, it is not intended for managing a library of them like winamp. I do agree that they've missed the boat though. I still buy CD's and actually have a digital library of music that I own. As such, I never stopped using winamp. But I don't know a single other person in real life that doesn't just use a streaming service for their music.
  
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Haha no way! At this point I can't think of a reason to switch from VLC, but I'd love to see a Winamp renaissance.

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Fix Shoutcast damn it.

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I thought the source was already leaked a while ago

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I've used so many other FOSS solutions to replace winamp at this point, and they're all functionally the same. I remember liking the interface of Clementine at some point, but honestly I don't think I have any loyalty to any specific music software anymore.

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Been using Foobar2000 since '03 (and now on mobile too). No need to change back.

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While I wouldn't mind it if it's worth the time, I recently played around with Audacious with skins and found a skin that made it look exactly like winamp. I can't move jt around in KDE Plasma 5 in Wayland, but it does work well in Enlightenment 0.26 on X11.

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