“THIS IS WAR”: Some right-wing figures call for retribution following Kirk killing
“THIS IS WAR”: Some right-wing figures call for retribution following Kirk killing
I was going to note that it's not known who did it or why, but that doesn't really matter, does it?
Nope. This shit is even on linkedin. And that includes my braindead countrymen too. They're blissfully unaware that the melon-headed fuck would've called them unclean, stinky, smelly pajeets. Fucking morons.
It never has before so why start now? Any excuse to bully and kill.
So, people on the right are calling for violence against the left? And this is different from any other day ending in Y because....?
This is something a lot of people don't seem to understand. The right has already been calling for leftists to be dragged to the streets and executed. Celebrating a dead Nazi isn't going to change that.
In DC they just straight up fabricated some bullshit. People who think kirk getting a lead pill changes anything are delusional.
Let's get some National Guard troops on the ground in Utah! DC was invaded because a little shit was beaten up by a child. No talk of Utah and an actual killing. Typical.
Utah is a republican-ran state, unlike the ones he's already deployed troops into
That's my point, he makes these flimsy reasons for invading but the big ones he just shrugs. Keeps making him look weak. Such a pusillanimous.
Mormons are still a religious minority and have long been a scapegoat in the US. Church of LDS has an eye watering amount of wealth that they aren't sharing with Uncle Sam or Trump.
Good thing crime can't happen in red states.
If you’re R in a red state, “crime” doesn’t exist for you. It’s a thing brown people do.
A single and fatal shot fired from the roof of a tall building 200 yards away while Kirk was under a canopy.
Despite strict lockdown procedures being a normal part of every college campus in 2025, the college officially evacuates the campus and the shooter just walks away.
The FBI quickly catches and releases the wrong suspect twice, and the only description they can offer is a man in dark clothing.
I have to admit this does have government conspiracy written all over it, but guess who currently controls the government?
Well, that side has been itching to start their civil war, and they're absolutely capable of sacrificing one of their own in order to obtain the license they think they need. Stranger things have happened.
Yeah that shot was masterful... conspiracy or not, this was a trained sniper.
Nooot really? I mean I'm not gonna lie I haven't really looked into the exact shooting here but 200 yards isn't really that crazy of a shot. If you assume the shooter was aiming for the neck it becomes a bit of a crazy shot, but I bet they were aiming for the head or body.
I'm sure many people who regularly go hunting could land a 200 yard shot. Heck I bet if you gave someone a few weeks of practice in a range they could consistently land 200 yard shots.
I say this from a place where I actually have fired guns before, including things like Ar-15s and an assortment of hunting rifles. They're just too easy to use.
Could have been former military? They used a single shot and then eloped with no trace. Very clean and professional.
200 yards is anything but masterful, with even a low-end scope its an easy shot if you've spent more than a day or two practicing at a range. The armys qualifying target is a human silhouette set at 300 yards and they are using open iron sights with no magnification or aid whatsoever.
I'm a hunter. I shoot my guns maybe 3-4 times a year (couple days at the range and a couple actually hunting). Like, less than 100 rounds/year between four guns. So I'm not a great marksman, and definitely not a "trained sniper".
This would be an easy shot for me. At 150 yards, I can shoot a 1/2" grouping, and I have a low-end rifle and scope. You don't have to account for bullet drop or wind at that distance. Just aim and shoot.
Could have been luck. I agree with you, but I'm just saying that it also could have been luck.
The GOP is already at war with us. They are stealing all of our public funding, they are taking away vaccines that save our lives, they are sending in armed military to keep us in fear, and they have purchased the supreme court to give them whatever they want.
The war started in January when the pedophile got into office.
Retribution against who? We don't know who did it or if they were associated with any group.
The ‘who’ was decided long before Kirk was shot. Trump has been praying for this day. He doesn’t give a shit about who shot Kirk. Trump can tell his cultists anything and they will believe it. Shit, Trump could have shot Kirk himself, on camera, and his imbecile army would believe it was the ghost of Jimmy Carter if Trump said so. People are saying that this is the spark that will touch off Trump’s retribution. Bitches, his retribution was already well underway.
Yep.
The fbi fuck didn't make a "mistake".
This was planned
to justify the violence they want to do
against the "left" aka anyone who doesn't go along with the nazi "maga" project 25 agenda.
Shit, Trump could have shot Kirk himself, on camera, and his imbecile army would believe it was the ghost of Jimmy Carter if Trump said so.
This is actually unironically true, and it's unbelievably sad.
I'm pretty sure you know who: whoever they're scapegoating this month, which is probably us.
But the real reason they want a civil war is that they think they have the upper hand and can establish minority rule.
That's an impressive amount of exactly-right squeezed into very few words.
They do have the upper hand. They have the military, the supreme court, the congress and the executive. The 2024 election was literally the last chance to stop what's here and what's to come.
You're dumb, the right always know who did what. They are basically all Sherlock Holmes. /s
You think that's going to stop a determined idiot?
No, the question is purely rhetorical.
Headline: Ammo Found In Charlie Kirk Assassination Engraved With Pro-Trans, Anti-Fascist Ideology
War against who? Do we have the perpetrator? Do we know their political affiliation? The Trump shooter was a registered Republican. Are they waging war against their own party?
Obviously they don’t need evidence to be horrifically violent shit stains, they’ve managed that well enough so far.
I love how some officials are already calling it a "political assassination" and everyone is talking about "political violence" when there's not even a suspect.
We don't know what the shooter's motives were, but there's a whole bunch of people who really want this to be political.
When this turns out to be a disgruntled MAGA nut, I hope they reflect fondly on " We are all domestic terrorists".
I love how some officials are already calling it a "political assassination" and everyone is talking about "political violence" when there's not even a suspect.
It's probably not a good idea to beat around the bush with this one. The mango in chief himself is saying this shit (TW: the link is truth dot social).
At about 3 minutes in:
"Radical-left violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken too many lives."
Followed by bullshit about how great of a person Charlie Kirk was, and then
"Charlie was the best of America and the monster who was attacking him was attacking our whole country"
I mean, it's pretty obviously political. We may not know the exact motives but the victim and timing make it clear that politics is involved in one way or another.
It's pretty clear it was a political hit. It's doubtful that his wife hired a hit man sniper to kill him because he was cheating or something.
The shooter could be a sitting MAGA congressman, and they'd still say he was a liberal.
When 9/11 happened, they were scheming in the White House the next day about how they could blame this on Iraq, because that's who they wanted a war with, even though everyone knew that it was Al Qaeda, led by Osama Bin Laden, and financed by Saudi Arabia.
Guys if we're not careful they're going to turn the US Military on blue cities!
...oh wait.
Crime in Utah is out of control. Fucking red state criminal haven, send in the Guard!
We are already living under a vengeful president's regime. America rejected him once, and he never stopped bitching about it. But you don't get to reject a narcissist. So he's taking it out on the people that did so.
All this killing does is give his sycophants a little more fuel on the bonfire of fear they've been stoking since 9/11. Who are they declaring war on? We don't even know who did this. It's always a fucking war with these whiny piss baby conservatives. It changes nothing.
Reagan declared war on America forty-five fucking years ago.
The business Round Table in 1972 set up the long game to kill the Republic in all but name that led to Reagan and everything else since.
I can excuse a room full of slaughtered schoolchildren, but I draw the line at one dead guy!
Retribution against who, exactly...? Who do they randomly want to lynch in the street? Just the next person they see with hair that's too long/short in their view? Maybe they want to shoot up some more gay bars...?
That’s ideal. I’ve seen trucks with “kill your local pedophile” on them.
Some people are looking for a reason to identify people they don’t like as someone worthy of death.
"Not a registered Republican? Or the wrong sort of registered Republican? Well I feel justified in killing you in retribution for a random media figure being shot and killed by... someone. Because frdm."
They have a long history of lynching people.
It's kind of their go-to.
Let's invade Afghanistan once more!
If this is a false flag then the invasion will be of parts of the US. Just as Trump has been rambling on about for weeks now.
So should it have been war when that nightclub happened in Florida? Or maybe all schoolchildren in the country oughta declare war on everyone else.
Retribution? To who? Your own party for inviting violence and radicalizing your own populace with hate and intolerance?! How about making a million empty promises and not seeing a single one come to fruition, and now your citizens are seeking retribution from the liars and cheaters who stole their votes to enrich themselves on the backs of the American people, the very people who lifted them into power. Gonna go around punching yourselves in the face?
What is it they think they are threatening to do at this point? Taking hostages? Send them to a death camp? Cleanse entire communities? They kinda already came in hot and late to be threatening that there is anything left to lose worth stopping at prior to this point.
At this point the right wing description of a leftist is so amorphous it includes everyone and nobody.
So for conservatives it probably means brown people and trans people.
School kids no, politicians what?, LGBTQ+ lol, immigrants whatever, but a POS grifter who dedicated his life to spreading hate, lies, racism, propaganda, protecting pedos, and who has done more damage to this country than most other people. TIME FOR WAR!!!
Well yeah, it’s the pedos and racists and haters who are angry about people being gleeful
Yes exactly! Since trump was elected in 2016 this country has gone from “we the people” to “me, me, ME!”
ANY excuse to openly target liberals.
Someone needs to hold the GOP accountable for killing him to distract from the Epstein Files!
They don’t even know who did it and they want retribution? It could have been a pelestian illegals immigrant for all they know.
They already deported the suspect. The perfect escape.
I’m not saying it was a false flag. I’m just saying that if we find out later on that it was a false flag, I will not be surprised one bit.
Bring it pussies! I don't live my life in fear like right-wingers. I will defend myself with deadly force if I have to. The 2nd amendment works for all sides.
Nobody is coming for you. Nobody cares about you or what you think. Sorry to break it to you.
Ya mean finds excuse to hurt the people they already hate by simply assuming there's a connection?
Like the guy who recently murdered the children at the Catholic school in MN?
only the influencers are calling this, drum up shit to gain more views.
There's this perverse incentive in how these people make money and a living. If they abandoned the culture war, they'd be broke.
Of course they want it, that's why they had him killed.
The fact that they want to call everything
"false flags"
& the fact that their go to move is projection
definitely makes this whole thing pretty sus to me.
It’s like in Andor where they shoot their own people and blame it on their adversary.
GOP is behind this , its a setup .
Just like 9 11
Do literally anything, you doughy fucking turds.
As always these pussies will have a big whinge then back down.
Please just make it legal to kill Nazis again, I'd do it for pay if we could claim a bounty on the hides.
Ah, an excuse to kill "Nazis"? You mean anybody? I get the sentiment, but how could we prevent it from being abused?
Nazi Purge Day. You choose, yearly, monthly or weekly.
Fine, fucking bring it fascists
Anywhere we can find all the vile facts of this horrid person to counter all the whitewashing going on? Holy shit its bad around here right now.
Hey, he had to be sacrificed for the 2A
Anyone see the video where two men directly behind him were doing really obvious hand signals? Is it up somewhere on lemmy because Reddit took it down?
What?
I don't know if this is a decent source, but at least it's context.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15089705/Security-suspicious-hand-signals-Charlie-Kirk.html
Two men to the immediate right of him were doing very clear hand signals right as he was shot
Deranged people following a deranged POS calling for deranged actions.
Bring it on, traitors. We've known this was coming for a long time. We're ready.
I hope it was an illegal immigrant and they've already shipped him out of the country.
Fascinating stuff. Although from the time I was living in the US, Kirk seemed like a relatively low level public demagogue and grifter.
They'd do anything but release the Epstein files
But the people making jokes are the real problem/s
Hear that? Its the collective roar of the Cub Cadet Calvary as they roll out to avenge Charlie.
in an ideal world we have a US 100 % with itself.
What about the assassination of a senator? Did that also upset the right, or where they all cheering?
It's okay if they kill a demon-rat. The brain washing combined with stupidity dissolves them of any wrong doing.
What other time in history did people call other people rats and cockroaches?
On one hand, I agree with the point. Political assassinations should be condemned by the right, and it shouldn't be acceptable to have people giving a pass on political grounds.
On the other hand, I was reading the comments on here after Kirk was shot, and almost without exception, people here were cheering. I saw one or two comments from people saying something like "political assassinations are bad", and people heavily downvoting them.
Now, okay. I can't prove that some of the users commenting and cheering on the assassination weren't, say, bots aimed at trying to create political division and polarization, though I doubt that the Threadiverse is likely the juciest of targets for that sort of thing; not a huge userbase. But my strong suspicion is that we are failing to meet the bar being asked of the right here.
I certainly see where you're coming from; there's a difference though.
Charlie Kirk was fighting to overturn the social contract; he didn't think the country has to accommodate LGB (and especially T) folks, atheists, Muslims, leftists, single women, et cetera. Hell, he loved political violence directed against Democrats.
People who break the social contract should not be surprised when they lose its protection.
Tolerance is not a paradox; it is a social construct. The difference between the assassination of the Minnesota state rep and the assassination of Charlie Kirk is that the Kirk was openly inciting violence against others. He rejected the social construct and was thus no longer protected by it.
I'll celebrate the death if anyone who's entire existence is to being more pain, cruelty, and hatred into this world. CEO of an evil corporation? Spokesperson for a nazi propaganda network? Corrupt politician that has repeatedly voted against protecting minorities, rent control, of universal healthcare? They have all spread violence and misery to hundreds of millions of people because they thought they were untouchable.
You know Charlie Kirk repeatedly said dead children were a small price to pay for the second amendment?
Do you weep for dead Nazis? I don't.
Yeah, the problem I'm seeing now is that everyone on the right is seeing the left's reaction. And now they don't care if the shooter actually was someone from the left or not.
The response they see is all they need to justify any reaction. Of course they're conveniently forgetting their own response (and Charlie Kirk's response) to Pelosi's attacker.
I’m of two minds about celebrating his death, in that I do, but I agree that people cheering vigilante killings is a sign of an unhealthy society. We definitely have an unhealthy society, and it seems like there’s not a functioning justice system for prosecuting people who foment hatred or commit societal murder, but this could lead to an American Reign of Terror, which would obviously be tragic.
That said, there’s a difference between being glad someone’s gone and declaring war on half of the political spectrum. I won’t say it definitely didn’t happen, but I didn’t see anyone suggesting that we take revenge for that senator, even on Lemmy. Certainly not in as widespread a manner as I’m now seeing it for Charlie Kirk.
And I'd bet if you read the comments in some fringe, right-leaning boards, you'd have heard people cheering for the governor being killed, or Pelosi being attacked, etc.
What matters is the response of those in charge. People are asking leadership to take action. No one gives a shit about random internet posters.
As an example, Biden put out a statement condemning the assassination attempt against Trump. Trump is calling for retribution against the Left here.
Lemmykins are incredibly hypocritical.
State level politicians are less likely to have impact outside their state. Nobody knew Hortman. Kirk was known by virtually everyone. Much bigger impact, much bigger reaction.
2/4 of the people I talked to yesterday had no idea who he was, so not as big to folks who don’t end up seeing the full stage.
These are national talking heads. They know about all these events.