Trump says TikTok should be tweaked to become “100% MAGA”
Trump says TikTok should be tweaked to become “100% MAGA”
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Trump says TikTok should be tweaked to become “100% MAGA”
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Wow that sounds like a fun way to bankrupt another company
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He bankrupted a casino, he knows what he's doing.
I suppose that's why the people paying for his campaign chose him, to bankrupt a nation you need someone this talented.
Why do they need said nation bankrupt I don't know, maybe to make it fail while the failure will still be not too gigantic to recover from, and maybe for yet another pump-and-dump scheme, except this time with a country and not an industry. Depends on how optimistic you are about their motives.
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Trump has wanted to destroy the United States since we captured Epstein in 2011 and shut down the best of his trafficking ring. It was never the same after that and that’s why he was suddenly so outspoken about Obama.
Take away a narcissist’s toys and they’ll just vow revenge at all costs. He doesn’t care that he’s destroying millions of lives - we took away his favorite thing; underaged “playmates”.
The rest of them are just assholes who think they can get rich and in some cases, have.
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Russia wanted the us bankrupt and as corrupt as them.
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I knew this shit would be abused eventually. A year and a half and this publicly though. With how bipartisan support for this there was in congress and publicly, an instance of leaopards eating their face for those certain that safeguards would work/future bills would pass to improve the safeguards (how often does that ever happen? Post-9/11?)
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Man, I just thought about the AI deep fakes. I never had a Tiktok (and left any remaining social media a long time ago) and I applaud anybody who is jumping ship right now. But the brain drain is extremely dangerous with the AI stuff.
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Maga should totally mess around with social media censorship, worked out great in Indonesia
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Even better in Nepal.
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Had to leave Twitter when it became a Nazi site, I can leave TikTok to I guess.
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You know, given how exploitative and harmful TikTok has been from the start, it might have been better never to use it at all.
I'm guilty of being on TikTok too, mainly used to keep up with a few artists I listen to, but at the end of the day, the platform is just another exploitative data-harvesting machine.
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I uhhh never used it to begin with so I’m good boss
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I never used either. Never really understood the culture of gormlessly scrolling through mind-numbing content.
But then I also gave up broadcast TV before even Netflix was popular. Just spent a small fortune on bargain bin DVDs instead.
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Never really understood the culture of gormlessly scrolling through mind-numbing content.
It was less a "cultural thing" and more a functional drift. From the RSS feed to Web2.0 timelines to feed by preference to The Algorithm of ad-promoted content.
Like with email, it wasn't always just a fountain of spam. Our systems have been deliberately and predatorially enshittified.
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me nervously doom-scrolling on lemmy via voyager 👀
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There's a great deal of real news that goes through the app. It's the majority of the content I see.
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I've been averse to trends like this, but I did get on Facebook and Insta this summer at the urging of some friends (I run a nonprofit so it's useful to network). By last week I had both apps on my phone and was just numbscrolling through Insta videos. Realized my mental health had gone to absolute shit in weeks. Deleted the apps andI'm feeling myself again.
It really is dangerous what they've created, if I didn't have ambition, I would be right there zombified.
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It's mainly the kids and low information adults who are on Tiktok, that's why it's popular.
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The open corruption, clear as day illegal and unconstitutional moves, and his overall smugness is embarrassing.
The GOP has gone insane to allow this man to continue like this. They are all sick with power and are hoping to "get theirs" next from daddy trump.
They are ALL traitors and should be charged for allowing the crimes to continue.
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"Jesus this"
You voted for Trump
"Free market that"
You voted for Trump
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But they don't have the fucking power. They're letting Trump do whatever he wants, and eroding their own authority in the process.
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"I don't want real power, because with real power comes real responsibility, and I don't want any of that shit. I just want the money. And the illusion of power. And puss."
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If that's what it takes for people to stop using that stupid a** social media, I'm all for it.
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glad you bend over so easily. Saves whoever the cost of lube even.
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He isn't even trying to be an American president. Only to his lie-loving MAGA.
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In other words, trump says "Stop looking for the Epstein files!".
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Tiktok was China's soft propaganda because they suppressed unfavorable content rather then promote favorable content. Trump going full MAGA with it would kill the platform because people use tiktok to stop thinking about distressing things. Not be exposed to more of it.
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What can be done to let https://loops.video/ profit from this even more than mastodon profited from the end of Twitter?
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I'll just leave this here.
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My decision to remain on rednote is once again validated
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Goddamn this is dark. Just when can i expect people to ever start actually fighting back in any sort of tangibly productive manner? We are so fucked.
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Just when can i expect people to ever start actually fighting back in any sort of tangibly productive manner?
Never. Fighting takes strength and the typical american is chronically burned out.
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Makes me rage that millions died defeating that megalomaniac.
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As with all social media, as soon as grandma and grandpa get on, it all goes down hill.
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It's gone full circle. Grandparents are the only reason I even have a Facebook account anymore.
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TikTok was never good. Have at it.
Though, he is always free to start his own MAGA-themed video service, much like he did with Truth Social. I think the problem is — and if he doesn't know it, he's been advised, with crayons and hand puppets — that running a server serving video is orders of magnitude more expensive than running a server hosting a text-based social network.
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i really think you are minimizing how bad this is. This is the government weaponizing social media, much like elon musk weaponized twitter. Only this time, the social media is directly owned by a fascist government regime. This is a massive massive conflict of interest which is going to 100% turn tik tok into a propaganda machine.
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TikTok was run by a fascist regime: China. It's just, most Americans are not of much interest to Beijing. Their intelligence probably wants to know what is trendy in America so it can better appeal to us and influence our elections to serve their interests, but Beijing is probably not concerned at all with you or I as individuals. But if they can get us to vote for a candidate they support by showing us the parts of that candidate that we agree with, we can be used as a tool by Beijing. Now Washington wants that power.
I don't like it either way.
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TikTok and Instagram were never good, but they provided a platform for people on the streets to provide real time updates on current events that countered the state narrative/propaganda on main stream media.
TikTok and Instagram exposed the truth about the American empire to a significant portion of the population. They want to make sure it's all controlled state approved content, they want to eliminate our ability to reach eyes and ears.
So sure, have at the Chinese propaganda platform, but not without an alternative that allows us to reach wide audiences... And we don't have an alternative... Not enough people are on the fediverse and the learning curve is pretty massive.
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they've made protest illegal by classifying antifa as terrorist, now they're coming after social media to make sure there is no outlet for protest online either. I don't think people are making a big enough deal about this. This is extremely bad.
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Eh, I'll "have at" TikTok for being shit because historically, it has been. It's driven by memes and trash.
That said, over the past couple years I've heard lots of good things. "BookTok" and other -Tok's being communities within the service — I admit I don't know how it is because I've never used it — but also, the rapid decline of YouTube has made me seriously consider getting on TikTok just to have something different. My resolve to be anti-TikTok has greatly reduced over the last couple years, as an "old guy" who does not like "social media".
So yeah, credit where it's due.
I'd love for the Fediverse to have a strong alternative, but again, the costs of running a video server that is anywhere close to being "widely used"...
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the dump doesn't belong in Politics. Simple Common Sense
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Another interesting news! I'm blessed! Like they already do missinformation.
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MAGA youth recruitment and education platform
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and that is what we call another piece of their propaganda machine
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We actually live in a world now in which the President of the United States explicitly states his intent to overtly violate the first amendment and the media just repeats it as if nothing of any note is going on.
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the media just repeats it
The media reports on it, attempting to do so from a neutral point of view.
I actually appreciate that the professional media is still attempting to stick to a neutral point of view. If they abandon that, you get media like MSNBC and Fox News where every single news story is discussed from a certain political point of view. That just sorts people into camps that listen to the news source that agrees with their perceived notions, which then radicalizes them even more.
If people can't agree on a basic set of facts, then there's no point to having a democracy. A media that covers the facts with as little bias as possible is essential to that working.
That isn't to say that I think the media is doing a great job. The big media companies that are owned by the oligarchs are doing especially badly. When Trump does something like this, responsible media that's attempting to be unbiased should at least connect historical dots, like other times that presidents have threatened the media, and what the results of that have been.
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I think we actually get to understand now how Hitler came to power. I remember in school, I was mystified how such an hateful man could become a leader of a country. Now I understand.
History will most likely repeat itself and humanity needs a big war to once again remember what hate leads to.
It just sucks for the ones who already learned that lesson from basic history.
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Every 80 years, some country has to repeat this shit. Sucks it's on our watch. But best to make the most of it. #NaziPunksFuckOff
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Watching it unfold before me and still I'm baffled. This all still doesn't make any sense.
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Your first amendment only applies to congress and legislative bodies at state and municipal levels. Private citizens and corporations technically can do whatever they want.
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and the media just repeats it as if nothing of any note is going on.
Mainstream media at least. Thankfully, Arstechnica and The Verge have been shouting from the rooftops at how unconstitutional and fascist the trump regime is being.
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Well the media is owned by them so...
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Because the public, apart from maybe one kid in Utah, is just sitting there allowing it.
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hope he does it and it's the thing that kills tiktok.
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And Larry Ellison's investment with it. Lol!
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yar
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Well, this is one way to kill tiktok
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It didn’t kill twitter. It might be shit, but still used by hundreds of millions, and is a popular public communications outlet
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It is on the decline though, preserved more by switching costs than by user preferences. It'd be interesting to see if Trump can cause an even faster rate of decline than Elon has.
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Kill it kill it!
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Genuinely, how would it be any different to Twitter and Truth Social then? I've not used any of them so maybe I don't understand the distinction between each
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TikTok is a short video social platform. People post only videos. The two you mentioned are short public messaging social platforms, with the capability to post/include videos.
That's not really what this is about, though. TikTok was not under their control, so they're trying to take control and follow their script of media and social control.
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Ah, got you, apologies - I thought they were all capae go sharing a video
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A much bigger young audience?
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Short video format focus?
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So like X.
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I never used it because of the Chinese government affiliation. I’d feel even less inclined to use it with maga affiliation.
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It being outside of the United States and outside of United States control was an absolute benefit for me, What was your reason for hating it while it was under Chinese control?
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There are multiple reasons for me. First and foremost is the data collection that they’ve been accused of; I know American companies do the same thing, but there’s something more nefarious about a state run data collection scheme than a public company collecting data to sell you ads, which I’m also trying to avoid as much as possible. Next, I don’t support their labor practices - using child, slave (Uyghurs) and cheaper labor is a big deterrent. I realize that some level of that is unavoidable with the way our society is based, but I don’t really need another social media outlet in my life anyway, so it’s a really easy cut for me.
Oh yeah, also because a state run social media app is something that I feel is an easy way for that state to push propaganda.
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Trump creams in his pants thinking about having the control the Chinese government has.
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Oh sure, but it's the lefties who are in their echo chambers.
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So desperate to propagandize the youth.
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You see them as desperate? Above anything, I see them as oppressive.
The actions seem similar, but their intentions are very different. They're not scared or anxious. They're enabled, demanding, and oppressive.
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MAGA youths !
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I know a different guy from history who also has seen great potential in media for propaganda.
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I’m glad I never installed that shitty app
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Mobile web or bust.
And man have some websites gone bust...
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I used to be like you I used to think it was just full of young kids doing silly dances, turns out a lot of information doesn’t really need more than two or three minutes to explain it and everything else is fluff so yeah, it’s a great place. I don’t know where this hate comes from.
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Short form video is the single best propaganda machine there is. You don’t get context, so it’s easy to manipulate events. Also, for some reason, people really fall for the “authority” of some rando talking into a camera like they know what the hell they’re talking about.
Every time somebody shows me a TikTok video as a reference or to make a point, the information is either fake or completely incorrect.
Not to mention, The algorithm feeds you more of these talking heads and makes you think it’s the general consensus
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For me its general dislike for influencers and platforms where people are encouraged to put a face behind content, go viral, and make money off of due to tending to attract content from people coming off like aspiring infomercial hosts. Like labubu I didn't even know about until South Park, so it was like kind of awe inspiring what a huge hive mind of mass reach it can be for those part of it.
But then again I don't like twitch and most big YouTube content creators either for a similar reason, so I might be just an anomaly when it comes to social media. I don't like Twitter and Instagram either.
I've preferred social media where people interact for the sake of interacting, since the foundation for potential monetary pay off or fame is really poor for that. So more message board type stuff like lemmy, reddit, and old school forums. Things where there's less of a chance of someone going in to try to turn it into a side hustle.
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Then why not write a blog? I hate videos if Im looking for information, give me something I can scan and digest properly.
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Trump says TikTok should be tweaked to become “100%
Me says posts that start with "Trump says" should be tweaked to become 100% invisible.
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Ignoring the problem won't make it go away, though
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It would if they didn't own all the media companies and got undue attention for their insane lies
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Someone should time travel back to the early 20th century and tell this fact to the labor organizers that settled for the New Deal
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The moment Trump says any sort of number the event should just end, return to your regularly scheduled programming, no need for any further attention because you know for a fact that everything he says past that point is complete fiction without a shred of usefulness to anybody.
No one's going to convince me that an accurate numerical figure has ever passed through that man's lips, and if it did, it was a cosmic accident.
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Bye bye tiktok then, fully right spaces never thrive
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Thanks for reminding me that voat doesn't exist anymore. The internet's butthole wart has been removed.
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And it's going to be governed by uncle Larry's company.
You know, actually this is so grotesquely American that I'm enjoying looking at it from far away.
And it might look nice when you over there are done with the circus and then done with killing each other.
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Just another day of trump being a dumb bitch.
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MegaloMANIAC just wants to take over the world
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MAGAniac
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Gen Z is so dumb that they're all going to be Nazis is 6 months.
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Its the billionaires against the working class, not generations fighting generations.
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Most of Gen Z are in their twenties and capable of thinking for themselves. Generally speaking, they’ve grown up accustomed to and accepting of neurodivergence, gender fluidity, and the spectrum of sexualities.
It’s the younger and older generations I’m more worried about.
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They're also MUCH more susceptible to misinformation and propaganda than the "in-between" generations. They aren't as affected by traditional media, sure, but their new media sources are heavily propagandized, with visibility manipulated by the worst people in the world. They might HEAR about the dangers of misinformation or propaganda in the periphery, but with their primary interface being a handful of apps on a mobile device, there's not much they can do about it without extensive education they aren't getting.
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You see that you're doing the generations thing right? Like you are doing the "lazy millennials" thing but just at a different generation. You're falling for their propaganda.
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Only 54% of Gen Z voted for Harris and Gen Z males have a pretty big far-right problem. It’s not random nonsense about eating dirt or being on their phones, they’re actually being pretty fucking awful at way too high a rate for people that young.
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How does even decide when the various generation start and stop it seems so random.
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As an older Gen Z, this generation is very split. The Gen Z in their twenties are extremely progressive and left-leaning, whereas younger Gen Z are deep in the alt-right pipeline. Obviously this doesn't apply to everyone, but Gen Z really is two generations smooshed into one.
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It's the incel/red-/black-pill bullshit. I am an older millennial, turned 41 yesterday, in fact, and I have noticed the split in the gen-Z generation. At some point a lot stopped trying to grow as a person and started blaming women and minorities for why they were single and unfavorable to their preferred mates/society. Accountability and integrity just sort of stopped mattering to them when it became easier and more socially acceptable to be a shitty person and still gain fans/clout/etc.
Then comes along all these 'bros' who sell them this idea that their problem is just not being a big enough dick and being rich, loud, and large, Eden if you have to fake it until you make it. They promote the debunked study of alpha males and champion the grind, self-made mentality while pinning the blame for their future failures on outside factors like immigration and higher ed.
I had high hopes that we could unfuck the world together, with the leadership of gen-Z, but I didn't think republican enough about how far the backslide would be. Now, I just expect to see the world crumble as the younger gen are lambs to the slaughter for the wars, sports, and land grabs of the ultra-rich.
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Just a heads up, the "in Minecraft " defense has been tested in our "justice" system and it will not protect you.
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Noted. Thanks.
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Trump is fucking delusional
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Also a fucking idiot..
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Whenever conservatives argue or demand that something be changed because they want it to .... you know that any change they make will only last as long as the money is flowing.
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The perfect way to kill a platform
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To be fair, I don't think Xitter is really dead? It certainly took a hit though 🤷
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yeah, because it's bankrolled by one billionaire now, so it doesn't matter how badly he runs it, as long as he decides to keep it up. it could never make a single dime ever again, and he could run it for as long as he wanted because he makes vastly more than twitter costs.
back when it was public, if it had lost this many advertisers when it wasn't profitable to start with, it might have been a very different situation for them. they had to convince investors to keep giving them money back then.
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Twitter is 5% nutjobs, 95% bots. You really need a mental illness to be able to browse Twitter unironically.
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This is nothing but outright propaganda designed to assert themselves in a good light.
America: you are fucked.
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More than America is fucked.
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Fuck you orange cunt
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He lacks the warmth and depth
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I said something similar on Reddit and got permanently banned lol! America stands by watching as this clown turns his country into a dictatorship. Worst neighbors ever!
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Moisturise me!
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Hmmm... so when kids on TikTok vandalize their schools, we can now blame it on MAGA?
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Good thing they don't have the skills to do it and make it attractive to the currect users. I'm fine with Larry Ellison's losing billions in the process.
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They literally did that with Facebook. Yeah, plenty of people left, but it worked.
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Yeah, facebook didn't do that. Facebook is "popular" with the old 50+ and force use in developing countries. The more right FB goes, the more they lose younger people. It's the snake eating it's own tail.
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As if we didn't already know he was thinkjng that?
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Nah, cut the middleman and work on brains directly by using an ancient technique called lobotomy
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Isn't tiktok a chinese asset? And hasn't china famously refused to dance to Trump's discordant tune?
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Missed the news, eh?
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They were forced to sell to a us based group.
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Rofl. If you expecting anything else except this from Trump, I've got some public landmarks for sale.
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And Democrats wanted to ban it for going against their narrative. Let me guess blue conservatives, should I be on my knees thanking the DNC for being ever so slightly less SHIT then the world's lowest bar, the republican party?
Fuck the two party system. The USA deserves trump.
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I’m not quite following you. First, I never heard about Democrats wanting to ban it for their narrative; I only know about the bipartisan ban. Is that what you mean? Second, what are you talking about with the thanking the DNC thing? What does that have to do with this?
Lastly, I strongly disagree that we deserve Trump. Nobody deserves right wing lunacy, especially not a large society that did not uniformly support his candidacy in any way. Do you think Germany deserved Hitler?
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There seems to be some correlation between lemmy.ml and shit takes. So strange...🤔
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Doesn't he want it to make money?
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Why would he? He's crashed every other business.
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I don't care for TikTok, whatever shakes them up and dismantles their foundation. TikTok is just a degradation to society, regardless who has it.
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... i Beg Your Pardon?...
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Is it bad that I agree? Eff TikTok
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Oh no, it’s news about TikTok. Are we going have people complain about it being posted here again?
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So, Trump effectively nationalized TikTok, valued at $300b. He sells it to friendly oligarchs for $15b. So far, this is basically the post-USSR playbook, and how Roman Abravmovich, Alisher Usmanov, Vladimir Lisin, etc. got so rich.
But it might piss off his oligarch buddies if he drives all the users off TikTok making what seemed like a steal into something worthless instead.
In ex-USSR that happened as something destructive, but in USA honestly it's normal, using institutional pressure to help friendly businesses. Trump is unusual only in how grotesque he is in his position, but history saw Talleyrand.
And US sanctioned Japan just because some of its businesses couldn't compete, which didn't kill Japanese car industry, but hurt Japanese computer industry, and sent Japan into recession from which it didn't quite recover.
About driving users off - that doesn't really happen unless you intentionally break everything. VKontakte be the experiment showing this, except TG was later made based on VK makers' experience with social stuff, and was very successful, and is now basically the most convenient messaging\social platform. When something FOSS manages to reproduce the experience of TG, then FOSS messaging and social systems stand a chance. So - some of the life moved from VK to TG, but it's more of VK's experience stagnating and being too complex and overloading, not of people fleeing it.