Trump's competitor promises to give part of Ukraine to Russia and block Kyiv's accession to NATO

Never thought I'd see somebody worse than trump so quickly.

he also wants to remove federal regulatory and law enforcement agencies. Including, the IRS. Whose job it is... to you know... pay the government's bills...

Is this guy campaigning for American votes, or a Russian paycheck?

At least they don't even try to hide how much they are in bed with Russia anymore.

how anyone cant seem through this blatent foreign agent acting against your country is beyond me. watching in amazement from down under

Russia can't even control it's own military with success, how the fuck are they gonna challenge China and put them on check. Lol this fuckin puppet has the whole arm in him.

US politicians are surprisingly easily bought by foreign adversaries

How the actual fuck are the Republicans not getting hammered in the polls?

Americans have been brainwashed for decades with 'communism bad' propaganda, so it seems mind-boggling that Republicans are so willing to give the former Soviet Union any control over Ukrainian soil. Part of the reason we've been fighting back against Russia's invasion with sanctions and equipment donations has been because they've been NATO's ideological enemy for decades.

Dont give this stupid ass a platform. Just dont talk about him. All the negative press is what gave credence to Trump by the anti crowd.

Republicans at this point are just fighting over who will be the worst and most fucked up and evil mother fucker. They are basically debating over who is going to fuck their people (and the rest of the world in this instance) harder. I can never understand why anyone would vote for these goons.

Of course, because Republicans get money from Russia to betray their country. What's sad is that it doesn't take much.

We're not seeing this motherfuckers tax returns.

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These debates seem more and more like massive focus groups. They get the non-contenders to say preposterous things with two goals: see what sticks and propagate lies.

sounds like a russian asset

Who the fuck does he think is. The US has zero rights to do anything like this.

I'm not into US politics other than the basics, but let me tell every American that the consequences of something like this happening will be catastrophic, and then you'll "fight" China alone, if not with more opponents.

Trump was already a huge liability to European foreign policy, if it happens again, the EU will dissociate from the US, weaponize and go nuclear. The eastern countries will enter direct conflict with Russia eventually (sooner than later), and the whole continent will get dragged into the war. At the end who ever is left will not support the US, actively be against it, and have nuclear weapons.

How fucking retarded is this guy?

Russia would make all the promises in the world until the US pulls all its support and resources from Ukraine. Once Ukraine falls, Russia would just tell the US to go fuck themselves and ally with China anyway.

Not that this whack job has a chance of becoming President and actually trying this shit, there's a less than 0% chance of it actually working.

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Fuck this moron.

Can we give this turd to Russia instead?

Luckily it’s not his to give.

Never vote Conservative/Republican/Tory or whatever name these RW crazies choose.

How the fuck have so many people never read a history book?

Vivek Ramaswamy is one of the more unappealing politicians I’ve seen in quite some time… which means that he will likely rocket up the GOP polls

And why exactly are we giving fascists a platform?

EU sanctioning the fuck out of the US in 3, 2, 1...

This idiot watched Trump sucking off the Russians and thought that was why he was popular, so he's gonna go ahead and double down.

How the Republicans of all people have managed to turn into the PRO RUSSIA party I can hardly fathom. For all their rampant flag waving and mindlessly spouted "Support our troops" drivel, they'd have been the last ones to kowtow to Moscow. In the end of course, I Do understand. It's their fanatical worship of Trump, the idea that anyone who doesn't adore Inmate Number P01135809 is just a traitor, and He of course was willing to give the Russians anything and everything they wanted to keep that kompromat from being released. So, Republicans have just internalized the idea that Russians Good, just because Inmate P01135809 said so.

And of course because Democrats have been supporting anti-Russian policies. Republicans would rather be traitors than collaborate with the Democrats.

This is what a Russian Muppet looks like… naturally he’s a Republican.

If he thinks that Russia will break their military cooperation with China, he is even more stupider that Trump and Biden combined..

“ in exchange for Russia exiting its military alliance with China”

OMG, so funny. That is even more unlikely than this tool becoming POTUS and I am not sure that would happen even if the rest of them were tragically killed.

how many Russian agents they got in that party now

Why is he backing a losing side?

"I'll suck Putin's dick so hard it will make ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ blush"

-This guy

I see Vivek Ramaswamy is gunning to be the Neville Chamberlain of the 21st century. Giving Putin what he wants is like trying to appease Hitler. Putin's expressed ideology is for Russia to conquerer Europe. He is not going to stop with the Donbas region or Ukraine. The best thing for everyone, including the Russian people, is for Russia as we know it to collapse into smaller countries.

This video by Kraut does a good job explaining Putin's ideology.

Not to mention by supporting Ukraine, the US is sending a clear message to China that they will be met with force if they try invade Taiwan. It doesn't benefit anyone other than Russia and China to work with them and give them what they want. Dictatorships are always going to be incentivized to backstab democracies. Democracies are going to champion human rights, where as other dictatorships will look the other way. So no matter how hard you try to separate Russia and China they are always going to be incentivized to work with each other.

And the little cooperation between China and Russia is not worth backstabbing Ukraine over.

You can't give away what you can't control

Hahahaha, he'll get Russia to sever military alliances with China eh? I'm sure they'll kindly pack up their things and leave Ukraine alone, just like they did in 1991. Putin has showed his hand. He's not to be trusted with any diplomatic issue. He will not abide by American rhetoric. Negotiating terms where Ukraine is blocked from joining NATO simply signals to the West's enemies that if you're able to make inroads, we'll make concessions. It's ultimately as weak piss of a foreign policy as it gets.

I'd rather kick America out of it's own NATO before blocking Ukraine, jesus crust.

You’ve got to be fucking kidding me.

Given how many jokes I've made about Trump ordering Ukraine to "just surrender" in a second term, I'm not mad, I'm just sad that my low opinion of the world is justified and accurate.

Paid by russia

I'm so glad he feels confident enough to do such a thing.

You would have thought that not been Ukrainian would make him think he has no right to make that decision, fortunately not.

I don't get why he thinks Russia would end a military alliance after being given everything they want without having to end that alliance. And what makes him think other nations won't still back Ukraine? We would just be putting ourselves on the wrong side of history and on the wrong side of the war.

Fuck you Vivek, you fawning douchebag

Is there no remotely sane candidate in the Republican party? It's not even a matter of supporting bad policies anymore, they have literally lost their minds and betray the very values this country is supposed to stand for

He is the ultimate grifter...I wonder what kind of donation that got from the NRA.

"in exchange for Russia exiting its military alliance with China."

"...You're questioning if is Russia is good on its commitments? Who had every heard of Russia not following through with its promises? What? Budapest memo-what?" -Ramaswamy probably

This guy has no idea what geopolitics is and how the East is playing it.

He can't realistically win potus, so he's only running to angle for {ed: Worst. Ever.} Sec of State position in the next GQP admin

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My thing have changed since the Cold War.

It will never not blow my mind that people alive during the cold War and all that drama are like yeah... liberal Americans are the enemy! We have more on common with Russia so we feel comfortable backing them in anything.

This fairy tale world where this dude thinks he can get “Russia to exit its military alliance with China”, this seems temping. But if this chucklefuck thinks that’s going to happen, then I’ve got 5 bridges to sell him.

I guess fuck Ukraine's right to self-determination?

why is it this dinguses decision

The guy is brown and his name isn't something they can pronounce. There is not a snowballs chance in hell that this guy would even be a possible front runner for a spot to even say he is competing with Trump for the nomination.

Hillary Clinton has better odds of winning the Republican nomination.

Oh I'm sure China would be absolutely thrilled if the US was soft on Russia.

What a cuck

What a piece of shit! Why? What’s the GOP line here? It’s not gay if you suck putins dick?

Oh yes we'll also colonize Saturn and end world poverty. College degrees for all! Easy to blather a bunch of nonsense goals with no regard for the attainability or necessity.

I doubt Russia would even agree with this 😂

I swear this guy is such a clown... how can people unironically like him or say he was the winner of the debate?

You know maybe trump isn't that bad

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Maybe he can start by eliminating the country highest political position.

Welp. I wasn’t going to vote for him because of his abortion stance but just one more reason not to vote for him.

Vivek Ramaswamy is a fucking ghoul, and so is Putin, but if — like some commenters in this thread — you are concerned about WW3, then Vivek's position here is less bellicose than the official American "Push NATO right up to Russia's border, plant missiles five minutes from Moscow, deny Russian access to the warm water port at Crimea" position. It is also the position most likely to end a war that has already killed half a million people. What Vivek offers is what Putin started the war to obtain.

There is some evidence — various polls, and also the fact that a civil war raged for eight years — indicating that a sizable portion of the population in the contested regions of eastern Ukraine is either ambivalent about or would prefer Russian rather than Kyiv rule. Granting them this would probably not be worse than killing another half million people in Ukraine.

Wow... what a traitor. I guess we better get into World War 3 instead. That'll show those bastards!

Indians are the biggest chuds in /pol/, second only to Yanks.

100% Ukraine is going to give up lands, they can not fight off Russia, and they have lost a ton of equipment and many of their soldiers are dead. Even the west who is now sick of giving Ukraine aid, are not pleased with how Ukraine is unable to make any dent in the war, furthermore, Ukraine has been told by the West to stop attacks inside Russia or risk losing aid, in preparation to forcing Ukraine to accept defeat, it's coming, bank on it.