I think the real upsetting thing isn't Biden's performance, or having Biden as president for four more years. He achieved quite a bit after all. The real upsetting thing is the DNC being such cunts that they even pushed for this debate, hoping that Biden could win, only to deny and ignore Biden's abhorrent performance immediately after. That Bernie got shafted twice by them, that is the really upsetting part.
228I'd vote for ToS era Pike over Trump. I'd vote for a candidate who only communicates via ouija board over Trump. I'd vote to not have a president for 4 years before I'd vote for Trump.
It's crazy that Trump can get convicted of fraud, be found liable for sexual assault, promise to abuse presidential power to get revenge against those who cross him, actively undermine both national and global security, promise to round up millions and put them into camps, attempt to overthrow the election and refuse to not try it again, and so on, and his side is still so loyal they'll wear solidarity diapers for him.
165What I've seen so many people not understand with the situation we are in right now, is that we can't fix our current situation in one election. Everything is far to tucked up for that, so the best that can be done is vote for the least fucked up option and work to improve things. People refusing to participate or vote for the candidate who is unfortunately our best option currently (biden) are doing more damage than the people voting for the fascist party. The perfect candidate/option does not exist and never will (obviously not saying everything biden has done has been good).
67Just because you are still voting Biden, doesn't mean you don't care.
It just means you still don't want the raving malignant narcissist Trump.
Any somewhat normal person would be the obvious choice over Trump. Any person who is not clearly a traitor to USA and Democracy would be preferable to Trump.67This is some weird ass propaganda.
The best thing that Biden ever did was just to not be Trump.
Why are these memes so weirdly die-hard in the support of a man that is visibly unfit for the 4 years of presidency?
No one is actually excited about old Joe. It's just that he's simply not Trump.
It would be best if he steps down so that we can get a person in office that actually excites people for more than just not being the other guy.
63This is what Germany in 1929 was - without social media.
37Well when the only other vote is fascism, hate, and bullying... Yeah we're gonna vote for the not ridiculous choice.
33Íf he wore a clown suit and only spoke Pig-Latin during the debate.... considering the alternative
He would STILL be the only viable candidate worth voting for
28In their moral justification, the argument of the lesser evil has played a prominent role. If you are confronted with two evils, the argument runs, it is your duty to opt for the lesser one, whereas it is irresponsible to refuse to choose altogether. Its weakness has always been that those who choose the lesser evil forget quickly that they chose evil.
-Hannah Arendt, German-American philosopher and political theorist, in fuckin 1964 lmao. some things never change!
25I've been called many names, including "tankie", so I'll take a stab at responding.
I'm not mad about the debate at all. I expected something fairly similar. I'm mad that Biden and the Democratic leadership seems to have put their own interests above the interest of the
partypeople (edit: Ugh. Terrible typo).If Biden had gracefully stepped aside and given just about any other Democrat his full support, we'd be in a much better position now. Instead we have a candidate with a ton of baggage and who presents an easy target for Trump's style of argument. Many mainstream Democrats, including the NYT, are finally starting to realize this. Unfortunately it's probably a year too late. At this point it would just make it look like Demoratic kingmakers forced him out.
If I went by the modern definition of "tankie" as, an anti-american authoritarian communist. I probably wouldn't be mad at any of this. I'd be cackling with glee because either of the current nominees will be terrible for the US. Neither of them has a serious long term plan. Neither of them can articulate a policy position. Both of them will continue to erode the power and moral authority of the United States.
Like it or not. Trump is likely to be the next president https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/. At this point it's probably wise to start thinking about how to limit his impact and how to start cleaning up the mess afterwards.
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23We got to bruh, the shit Trump & MAGA are planning for 2024 is wild.
22Still voting Biden, but this feels an awful lot like many past elections where people are holding their nose and voting for a candidate they don’t necessarily like just because they really don’t like the other candidate: Bush v Gore, Bush v Kerry, Clinton v Trump. Those elections never seem to turn out good.
20Is this loss?
10The dying geriatric insane old pedophile or the dying geriatric insane old pedophile who is being used to enact Project 2025
Decisions, decisions...
Voting Biden!
3I will never vote Democrats!
Since I do not intend to move to the US but I vote the lesser of several evils here in Europe
3Giving Hexbear aura. Could be shittier though, too much corn 🌽
3No ones mad at you for voting you dweeb, some people just wont vote for him, the debate changed nothing.
I'm a tAnKiE and I dont even get a vote, pretend youre voting for me, have at it.
2LOOOOOOOOL
1did the image originally say trump? or is it from 2016 and said bernie? or maybe even ron paul?
-1I will cast my vote between tears but nobody ever promised preserving democracy will always make you feel good.
In fact, I am close to launching into a really hard condemnation of every last one of you lazy-ass motherfuckers who expect everything to always play out like a 2-dimensional anime plot where you're the good guy so you're supposed to always feel good, and any struggles are easily overcome, and if it doesn't play out like that, then you go full doomer-mode and grab your soapbox to preach how pointless life is just because you're lonely but too scared to talk to a girl. Go back to your discord safe-spaces and let adults out here make the hard choices.
-3Your ignorant use of tankies is what bothers me the most. I already knew you'd vote dumbly no matter what, Blue MAGA. 🙄
-4An administration is more than a man, Trump with absolutely 0 political experience was able to keep the country rolling, albeit making awful decisions, then the current mental state of Biden means very little. Having said that, as someone who watched my grandfather pass from Alzheimer's, it's really sad to see.
-7....I struggle to see how any sane individual would vote for either option. Or allow their emotions to be unnerved by "politics". It is also concerning that more people are not aware of how the electoral process works. The popular vote bickering with one another while both sides laugh at you.
Please stop making decisions rooted in "the lesser of". If you can pick between the "lesser of two evils" its because you've got evil in you...
...Someone is going to watch your child and you're given two choices: one is a convicted pedophile and the other is a convicted murderer.....
.. for some of us, there is no choice to choose from. Even under duress we have free will. A gun to my head might influence my decision making, I still made a decision....I could have decided otherwise.
I wont get worked up over political theater. It's more agonizing to witness them play the same trick, generation after generationn and yall keep drinking the kool-aid 🫤
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