6d ago

Sorry bout your heart

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If Jesus came into the US, he would be crucified for being a "poor woke immigrant communist" (read this as: not okay with the exploitation)

% per 100k? This person is making a valid point, but it's undermined somewhat by the fact they've clearly fucked up something.
- According to this, per 10,000 people:
  Japan: 0.2
  US: 19.5
  https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/homelessness-by-country
  
  That's what I figured they meant.
  
  .2% per year? So we should expect about 10% of people to be murdered by 50?
  I was going to say .2% is better than I thought, but that’s pretty dire.
- Eh, the population difference is less than one order of magnitude and the difference in homelessness is two orders of magnitude.
  
  It's not about that, it's about "% per 100k" making no sense as a unit. It's either just %, or an absolute number per 100k. Mixing both together like this makes it seem like you've clearly messed something up and don't quite understand what you're actually talking about.

I do not trust any stats that come out of Japan in terms of homelessness. If there's a statistic that's embarrassing for Japanese society, you know damn well they're gonna try to cover it up with technicalities.
In Japan, the legal definition for someone who is homeless is: "those who use city parks, riverbanks, roads, train stations and other facilities as their place of stay in order to live their daily lives."
So that doesn't include living in your car, living in insecure housing, living in shelters, or living in internet cafés, of which in 2020 there were about 15,000 'net café refugees' in Tokyo alone.
Sooo yeah, Japan can claim to officially have a super low homeless population, because they've narrowed the definition so much that you have to literally be sleeping on the street for it to count.
- yeah they also fail to acknowledge the suicide rate or the amount of overtime or purchasing power of avg wages.
  I'm not making any statements on any countries other than japan. but I'll add a message to american weebs: STOP FETISHIZING JAPAN
  
  But Japan is so perfect and kakkoi bro, I'll solve all the problems in my life by moving there and then I'll become kakkoi bro
- I've lived in three different major Japanese cities and see fewer people sleeping rough in a year than I can see in an hour in either Europe or the US.
  
  Sleeping Rough != Homeless though. Granted, almost everyone who sleeps rough is homeless, but not every homeless sleeps rough. Japan only counts people sleeping rough as homeless though.
  Also there's the element of being seen sleeping rough. There are plenty of people sleeping rough out there, but they don't want to be seen that way so they keep to themselves and stay away from the general public, getting across the idea that there aren't many of them.
- They cover it with Hideo Kojima
- They also flub their murder rates. It's considered unclean to handle dead bodies, so autopsies aren't common and anything that could be ruled a suicide, is.

Fuck proselytizing religions. No, I won't join your stupid fucking cult. Fuck right off.
- Do you want to talk about Satan?
  We enjoy sex, responsible drug use and rock and roll.
  
  All hail Satan!
  
  Are the uh... maggoty cum farts optional or?
  
  Anybody who rebels against the biblical god has the right idea.
  
  I'm listening...
- Fuck all religion. No I don’t want to reject reality to play make believe.
  
  Naw, my religion is cool. I'm a Satanist. We accept reality as revealed by science.
  
  I can hear your avatar.
  
  It's part of capitalism as well.
- We dont need to improve the world, we just need to get you to say you to validate our taste in shitty fiction. That's more important.
  
  Wait, wait, wait.
  Talk all the shit you want about how people twist the meanings of the book/religion, there are some very good stories in the Bible.

07%
This is why punctuation is important.
- Never mind that, what does "07% per 100K" even mean? As far as I can tell that evaluates to 0.0000007 or 7 per 10 million
  
  The "%" is unnecessary, yeah. I‘m guessing she meant "0.7 homicides per 100K citizens per Annum"
  
  0.07 x 100 000
  
  Assuming it's .07% and not 7% since the latter wouldn't make sense with their post, that would make it 70 out of 100,000.
  
  a simple math says: 0.7/100*100 000 = 0.7 * 1 000 = 700 so, 700 on 100k people
- ~~Not even sure what year this is from cause the murder rate in Japan is .23% per 100,000 as of 2022.~~
  Interestingly the United States is at 5.7% per 100,000 as of 2023.
  ~~Relevant Wikipedia article:~~
  ~~https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate~~
  And as of 2022 it looks like the Christian population of Japan has declined to around .96% of the total population.
  Edit: That Wikipedia article may have been written by ChatGPT cause the actual total number of homicides in all of Japan in 2022 was 853.
  NonWikipedia source:
  https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-data/h01860/
  
  As the other guy mentioned, 0.23% per 100,000 doesn't make sense. That's like saying 0.23 murders per 100 (cent) per 100,000. One of those per Xs is redundant.
  The Wikipedia page linked says Japan has a murder rate of 0.233 per 100,000 residents. If this made sense as a percent, it would mean a percentage of 0.000233%. But this statistic wouldnt work as a since a "percentage" implies a fraction of a whole, for example 50% of a population is born male.
  The original statistic under discussion says that there are "X number of murder cases per 100,000 people living in country", rather than "Y% of the country's population is murder victims", which wouldn't make sense anyway since the dead aren't part of the population; i.e. you wouldn't see a statistic like "20% of the population is dead" but rather "20% of the population died", and "90% of the deaths were by murder" rather than "18% of the population is murder victims".
  Thank you for attending my TED talk.
  Edit: formatting
  Edit: 0.233 murders per 100,000 residents (in 2022) = 126,146,099 (pop of Japan as per the 2020 census) x 0.233 ÷ 100,000 = 294 murders total. The wiki page says the actual count is 289, so the error is probably due the drop in population since the 2020 census.
- 0.007‱?

To be fair there is also the suicide rate.
Also what the fuck were they expecting, Japan to be some Christian paradise?
- First time I've actually taken the time to look it up. People talk about Japans high suicide rate but apparently it's not that much higher than the United States? So less murder, more food availability and just a slightly higher suicide rate?
  
  When people don't have murder, homeless, ramped theft, they need some boogie man metric for the crier to report on.
  And for Japan, the marginally higher suicide rate along with low population growth are it.
  Of course the low rate of Christianity as well.
  
  Here's another in case you didn't know. People always talk about working in Japan to be brutal and constantly work long hours the entire week.
  Data says otherwise. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-work-week-by-country
- Also what the fuck were they expecting, Japan to be some Christian paradise?
  Portugal has entered the chat
  
  Portugal would like to know Japan's location. And keep it a secret from other countries for years.
- They probably just saw Silence and think it's a result of the persecution of Christians back in the 1600s.
  To those prepared to reply with "but that's not what it is", I'm not saying it is.

What's going on with the math here? Percent per 100'000?
- That's what you have to use because they have fewer people per capita. It's basic math.
  
  But usually, you have total numbers per 100k and that's the percents. % is parts of hundred, no matter what.
- I was really wondering about that phrasing. So weird.
- Exactly, the post is meaningless. Unless anyone believes there are fewer than 3000 homeless people in Japan lol.
  
  The world is full of people like you, who know NOTHING about a topic yet feel compelled to make false statements about it without doing even the most basic of internet searches to educate themselves lol
  
  can't even be bothered to do a simple search huh?
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_Japan
  
  According to a January 2025 survey, it is.

Your unhoused numbers are wrong. Those are the official "sleeping on the streets" numbers, which is not the same thing. First because they're official, and therefore almost certainly undercounting, and second because they exclude all of the situations where people don't have houses but are kinda not exactly in a cardboard box.
- To be fair though it’s the ones living on the street that people choose to hate on as much as possible

Christianity is a vile, violent, and horribly divisive religion. Its also a pedophilia cult.
- huh.

I just woke up, but I don't think the unit should be percentage per 100k people. Otherwise, I agree with the statement though.
- Not only that, 07 > 5.7, I assume missing a decimal point. Their heart is in the right place, their keyboard is all over the place.
  
  Probably this person studied in america /j
- Yes am I unaware of a strange way of displaying these metrics or did they just add the % sign for no reason?
  
  i'm pretty confident (p<0.05) they just added a % for no real reason.
- Yeah, that seemed needlessly confusing to me too.

I guess not having many Jesus cult members helps
- Apparently the moonies don't help things.
  
  The weird thing is that they're supposed to be Korean, and they're historically not fond of one another. But then, anything to make a ~~buck~~ yen.
- MAGA exists over there, too.
  
  Should be called MJGA
- save me jeeeeeeeeeebus

07%/100000
- 5/7 with rice

correlation is not causation, the reason why they have less murders is probably not Christianity (for example they have way stricter gun control)
edit: after rereading the post I don't think the other person is tryng to argue that Christianity is causing murder and whatnot, so ignore above paragraph
also wouldn't it make complete sense for Japan to have way less Christians since they were isolated for so long and have their own religious beliefs
- Also, Christianity was banned for quite awhile.
- A Japanese guy used a 3d printed gun to undermine a christian cult in Japan.
  
  The Moonies are so wacky that calling them “Christian” is a stretch. Definitely not aligned with the Nicene creed, and I think once the founder/prophet claims some sort of divinity it’s better to refer to as Christian derived.
- This part of 'what your bible says about murder and poor people' makes it sound like the writer of the response believes it's causational but i think they were just offended and not trying to make a scientifically sound argument. And i would understand that.
  It's almost racist because of how the first post makes Christianity sound like something superior. As if the Japanese being different in their believe makes them less.
  also wouldn't it make complete sense for Japan to have way less Christians since they were isolated for so long and have their own religious beliefs
  Exactly this. Although Japanese rulers haven't always been very peaceful, their culture is known for being caring and respectful towards others where as Americans are by many people seen as loud and obnoxious (also positive things, but i'm not trying to make a comparison between two cultures as a whole), making this comment about Japanese adoption of Christianity not only come across as ignorant but also very arrogant.
  
  It's more a statement of the state of Christianity in the United States, where in a lot of congregations the actual teachings of Jesus have taken a back seat to gun culture and right wing politics.
  She's saying that the Japanese are better Christians than Americans, despite not even being Christians.
  
  Although Japanese rulers haven't always been very peaceful, their culture is known for being caring and respectful towards others:
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Japan
  Many people try to make Japan sound perfect, but they have a lot of problems: https://archive.ph/0IoIQ
  Japan lacks any law which prohibits racial, ethnic, or religious discrimination.
  wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Junko_Furuta
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karoshi
  Of course still not as bad as the US, but I don't it is because of religion, it is more because of the two party system. Look at Singapore 18% Christians and they don't have that many problems.
  In the end I believe most problems in all countries are because of human nature, not religion. Religion is just one of the excuses they use for the horrible things they commit.

Admittedly, ignorance respects no particular faith. That said, Christianity does seem to have quite the stranglehold on it.
- That's because you see more of them. Or at least what passes for christian in the US. Rest assured that the others are more than keeping pace.
- I don't view christianity as a real religion tbh. Maybe way back when it was but nowadays it's just a way for fragile suburbanites to justify their victim complex and bigotry.
  
  That's how most "real" religions are.
  
  I would specify that the views and practices of modern religious have probably diverged to a very likely large extent from that of their founding predecessors, but I’d also imagine those same predecessors also used religion to justify their victim complexes and bigotries. The two groups, separated by many thousands of years, seem to have much the same underlying mentalities.
- That's only because you live in America.

Some people are shockingly stupid, even though I've spent my entire life finding out how stupid people can be.
- I worked in retail for a decade, and have been in IT for past 12 years. Mostly help desk. Mostly medical.
  The advanced degrees these people have is astounding, but the lack of common sense is terrifying.
  Like, these people are cutting into other people to fix shit? They can't tie their own shoes, and the concept of a power button on a computer is too much.
  This is the same person. Hopefully he has retired or died by now, cause those were his only real choices at that age.
  Seriously, his assistant tied his shoes for him. She probably had advanced degrees of her own. And she had to tie an old man's shoes on the daily.
  Maybe there something to have such a laser focus like medicine specialties really does rob people of their common sense.
  Tie? Shoe? No, but that artery is about to retract or some shit.
  
  I have the exact same experience. I explain health benefits to people for multiple different companies across the US. The number of airline pilots who see a 'forgot username or password?' button and just don't know what that means, or type their username in the password field and vice versa, even though they're clearly labeled, is insane.
  
  Also in IT. Complained last week about a guy who is a lawyer who was befuddled by needing to reset his password for an online service. Dude! How can you not have this skill by now?!
  I was utterly forlorn. And a bit angry.
  
  Maybe he had back arthritis or similar conditions? If he was an old surgeon I'm sure 8+ hours a day bent over wasn't kind to the core muscles and skeleton. As for intelligence, nobody is all knowing. Everyone has specialized knowledge, and few try to learn outside their interests. But yeah, learning basic pc skills is kinda important.
  
  From my experience, doctors tend to despise IT.
- Every day I am amazed. Carlin is proven more accurate day after day.

Heartbroken because it should be 0%?

Given the confluence of weeb culture and the alt-right (think incels and “traditionalists” with anime avatars, right-wing gamers pointing to Japan as a high-tech conservative utopia untouched by wokeness and such), it was inevitable that sooner or later someone would try to imagine a Japan that goes to Latin Mass.
- Is that still a pervasive thought in today's culture about Japan? I understood back in the 90's when there was less exposure but I thought that reality kinda crumbled with the loss of high tech companies that actually give a damn anymore. I don't know of anyone that talks about "premier" Japan tech unless it's something from the past.
  
  Japan tends to lurch forward, then be stagnant for large periods of time.

Japan also has a terrifyingly high conviction rate, something those Christians would cream themselves over.
- If you measure the us conviction rate the same way the commonly quoted 99% conviction rate in Japan is calculated ours is actually higher.
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate scroll down to the Japan entry for the source. Sorry don't know how to link it directly lol
  
  Japan is just gaming the numbers here. Both with the conviction rate and with the homeless ratio.
  https://www.examiner.org.hk/2025/01/17/the-invisible-homeless-in-japan/features/
  According to this link, if you apply western metrics, Japan would have between 100k and 200k homeless. Which would mean Japan has 81.2-162.4 homeless per 100k inhabitants, while the USA has 221.7.
  That would make Japan a bit better than the USA, but it's not that much of a difference any more.

I don't think she's really sorry about their heart

Is there something wrong with her heart? Maybe she needs to go see a doc... oh, wait nvm. We'll just pray the pain away for her.

The US is really just a big social experiment trying to prove a point.
I'm not sure what that point is, but it's definitely out there.
- 42
  
  I actually wouldn't put it past them to help bulldoze the entire planet to make an intergalactic highway if it meant they'd get Earth money in exchange. They're already doing that with the environment, so...
- Well, the best times in American history were when corporate and wealth taxes were high and opportunities for the unwashed masses were greatest, and the worst were when the rich were allowed to run rampant, so I think the point America is trying to make is kill the greedy along with their parents and children.

I'm heartbroken too. Anything over 0 is a failure of public education

Something something corellation, causation

You know what would be funny? Dropping anonymous tips to the police that random churches are housing illegal immigrants.
- ICE thugs are already staking out churches in immigrant neighborhoods and abducting people as they come out, and Trump has made it legal for them to barge inside as well. I don't care what you think about religion, it's not funny to sic the American Gestapo on folks just trying to live their lives.
  
  Don't target the immigrant neighborhood's churches, hit the rural ones 4 hours away from any major city. Just imagine the ice gestapo sending a convoy of agents out that far and getting nothing.
- You mean doing the things their religion is supposed to?
  How about we drop anonymous tips that random churches hide child molestation instead?
  
  I think any anonymous "tips" will result in pinning those crimes on non-white people, ICE deporting them, and then Trump claiming they got rid of criminal illegal immigrants despite it not being true.
- Explain to DOGE how much would be saved by taxing churches at a 95% rate.

Bless your heart.

Did they mean 0.7% cause 07% is higher than 5.7%

Yeah also japanese people shit rainbows
- Only if everyone else around them are doing it.
- Well when they stop shitting those rainbows into little holes dug into the ground give me a call

Now do again with suicide rates (:
- Japan : 17.4/100k
  USA. : 15.6/100K
  2021 stats from wikipedia
  Does that help?
  
  Slightly higher! Gottem!

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