LPT: Go get a shot, now.

Are they trying to make massive epidemic in U.S.? Because that's how you make an epidemic.

Yes

The US Gov. wants its citizens sick and feeble.

Yep.... They are definitely trying to kill off the bulk of the population If there was any doubt.... It's pretty clear now

Or are extremely delusional and have a terminal savior complex. You'd be surprised to know how much people believe these kinds of bullshits, even if they start out as lies.
"A good liar will eventually believe their own lies if they were truth from the very beginning." - some of the people of the early far-right I could talk to personally. I even heard the "Truth is not on our side" line a bit too much.
- I do think elephant graveyard's video on Rogan is correct. This is part of a plot by the technocratic billionaire class to purge the world of humans so they can do away with annoying things like "democracy" and "rights"
at least we can "find comfort" in the fact that republicans are unlikely to want to get vaccinated.

I live in Ontario, Canada. I can just walk in to the local pharmacy and get the Covid, flu, and RSV vaccine for free.

The True North Strong and Free (except Alberta, their government are fascist Trump bootlickers.)

RSV is available in the states, but you would have to be in the risk groups and its not eligible to everyone.
Please send help - an Albertan
- We can help ourselves. They are dumb and will divide their vote again at the next election.

The GOP isn't just a metaphorical plague anymore.

"Pestilence" is such an underused word. They're a lot like locusts.
- government of pollution

After seeing this, I attempted to check CVS for availability for myself and son since he just started back to school and hubby is immunocompromised from chemo, but they had a message stating they anticipate an updated one soon and currently didn't have it available. Good luck to everyone looking to protect themselves and others.

i would just ask your insurance if they allow vaccination at other pharmacies, like walgreens, i know they allow fre flu ones.
I've had the same message for ~2 months now. Not sure what is going on with CVS.

How soon before we get vaccinations with thoughts and prayers ?

Prayers should be applied topically or to worn armor, written on parchment and attached to a stamped wax seal infused with holy oils.
Thoughts are often immunosuppressive and should be guarded against with tinfoil headwear or nerve staples.

Just got my second HPV vax and my understanding is I have to wait at least a month before I can have a different vaccine.

That said, I intend to get the Covid and Flu vax once its been a full month. They've never told me I can't do both of those at the same time.

i tried asking for meningicoccal vaccine, but im not at risk so i wasnt given one, or the hpv one,. i was asked about the chickenpox vaxxine once, but i had CPOX when i was young, and shingles when i was 20. i had the vax for it, i dint know, but it appears it doesnt stop or reduce the severity of HZ.
I've gotten Covid and Flu vax at the same time. I prefer it, I usually get a fever and my arm gets really sore. One time I tried one in each arm, and I had two sore arms for a couple days instead of one.
If you really want the vaccine, just follow the advise of your physician. They'll know or find out wheter you can combine them.
If your a normal, healthy person there is no need to get the vaccine though. I get the flu shot every year because my employer offers it and I'm just a big wussy.

Can someone from the US take a trip to Canada specifically to get vaccines? I have lupus and I really don't wanna die from covid. I live in an area where people are ride or die Trumpers and don't give a shit about anyone but themselves.

Lupus is on the list of conditions that merit a vaccine for the under 65 crowd, since it is an autoimmune disease with immune compromising medications.
It's actually a pretty long list. Being overweight (BMI over 25), having ADHD, depression, being sedentary, being a current or former smoker, having substance misuse disorders, along with all the other ones you'd expect, like asthma, cancer, heart disease, transplant recipients, and anyone who needs a careworker.
As of now, you can self certify as being in one of these groups (you don't need a doctor's note). And your doctor can still recommend it for you if you're not on the list, as long as you don't have an anti vaxxer doc.
https://www.cdc.gov/covid/risk-factors/index.html
- Oh awesome. Hopefully they don't ban vaccines for that list. Last time I had a simple cold I was almost hospitalized...
At the rate that things are devolving, if you have the means, you may consider emigrating somewhere else. And maybe not Canada because we'll probably be invaded by your country in the following years, or months.
- I don't have the means to completely leave. I wish I did
- Don’t say stupid shit like that.

When are we supposed to get the flu/COVID vaccines? Right now?

Yeah we're going into flu season soon. And covid vaccines actually should be updated even more often than flu.
- You guys have flu vaccines? In the UK only old people get them.

Last night I was hanging out with a few friends and they all started going in on "the clot shot" and Fauci making money off it and blah blah blah ugh

Waiting for the "sounds like you need new friends" joke, but that's really a bummer. It's difficult to make friends and connect with people as it is, and then this shit polarizes us and makes what used to be a fairly private stance something that would rarely, if ever, come up in friendly conversation. Hopefully they aren't raging Nazis or anything...
What are you talking about? What's a clot shot?
- I Bhere were some vaccines that was believed to cause blod clots. I have a friend (35m) who got a stroke caused by blood clots after hos shot. If it was the vaccine or anything else is hard to say

I’m not sure what the data is for children, but after speaking with my doctor (who has gotten vaccinated multiple times) says they don’t believe the vaccination will be very effective this year since there is no clear data on its effectiveness. They basically said it’s probably not worth it. They highly suggested the flu vaccine though. Take that info for what you will. I’m not sure what I’m doing yet.

Edit: grammar

I read that it's still effective because the latest version is an ofspin of one strand compatible with the vaccine.

I am not a vaccine sceptic but I am curious as to why America still vaccinates everyone for Covid. In Sweden we haven't cared for many years about getting vaccinated and it hasn't been a problem. The vaccine is available to get if you need it. But it's not something we collectively vaccinate for any more.

I'm Swedish, live in France.
Here: vaccinate vaccinate vaccinate, in Sweden : meh do whatever.
Also Swedish people: hello neighbor please you're only 5 meters away from me it makes me uncomfortable.
In the meantime in France: Hello friends and neighbours, kiss kiss kiss kiss!
On a more serious note, Sweden had the medical capacity that France didn't have, which is one of the big reasons in the very different response to the pandemic in those two countries.
I saw a study the other day that mentioned that Sweden during the pandemic had a median time of 30 days sick leave for those who had Covid.
In the US that would be rare if not impossible for a lot of people. I would think if someone could get a shot that would lessen symptoms or duration in a country that has such a poor health care safety net it might be worth while.
- Yeah most people here can stay home if they are sick. You get 80% of your salary to start and then it gets lower the longer you are sick. The first 14 days are paid by the workplace and after 14 days the government takes over.
There's more people in the US. Plust the US is not collectively vaccinating people
- There's more people in the US
  ?? How is that relevant
Cant speak for the US, but in general, Covid is still more dangerous during the acute infection than the flu and also causes much larger numbers of post-viral sequelae. Those are all potential reasons to recommend the vaccine, which can reduce the severity of both
It very likely has been a problem and is just being underreported.
A single infection often doesn't cause much harm, but those who have constant exposure and infections (teachers especially) are having major health problems. It's barely mentioned outside of science papers.
- Our health department seems to be releasing weekly reports about the covid situation. https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/folkhalsorapportering-statistik/statistik-a-o/sjukdomsstatistik/covid-19-veckorapporter/aktuell-veckorapport-om-covid-19/ That week 10 people died with covid in their bodies. All ten were 65+ years, 7 of them was 80+ years.
  I am not knowledgeable enought to know if this is a lot or not but it seems low to me. I have faith that my government would do something if the situation was bad.
  Edit: Okey so they have stopped publishing weekly reports about covid and will only resume them if the epidemiological situation changes for the worse. Which is the right thing to do in my opinion.
Same in Germany. Last year I asked some people who got vaccinated if they think I also should get another shot and all of them told me that I'm not in a vulnerable group (or a caretaker) so I shouldn't bother. So we basically repeat what we know from the normal flu (influenza) and just vaccinate vulnerable people. I'm not sure if this is the best way to do it, because I think many people die each year of the flu as well. However, death statistics are hard and I couldn't find any reliable data on this either.
- US standard policy recommends flu shot for everyone if they can take it.
It became a political statement here. That's why you see people with masks on, when they're in a car by themselves lol.
- Yeah magats only wear masks to kidnap and disappear people
- Have you ever heard of hay fever?

I can’t believe two Kennedys were assassinated, and this guy isn’t one of them.

I can’t believe two Kennedys were assassinated, and this guy isn’t one of them.
My favorite JFK conspiracy is that no one killed him. His head just did that.
I like to imagine that he entered a Mandela trance that gave him a peek into our timeline where he saw RFK Jr. Then his head blew up.
- The Mandela Effect is the weirdest conspiracy theory to me as that fucker was never off the TV during my teens. No-one would even have heard of him if he’d died before all that.
- Except another guy in the car also died
the worms give him immunity.cant assasinated more than 1 worm at a time.
Head not worth shooting i guess, even the worm inside it is found dead, probably from suicide.
- The worm is calling the shots here.
You know, there's something called "rule of three"...
Nor John Kennedy, who's even more of an asshole.

Now, I'm not saying everything isn't a shitshow. Clearly it is. Based on the general insanity, I am 100% in favor of getting vaccinated sooner rather than later. But "might" != "will".

I'm quite glad you included article links. Careful, though; the image posted is how propaganda works. By itself, it is unsourced, apart from the Unambiguous Science logo at the bottom (which could have been put there by anyone). UnSci refers to itself as

No sensational headlines, no politicizing of science. Just evidence based information.

And as noted early in this comment, the image says "will revoke" while the reporting says "might/may revoke".

I know you're using markdown but it's coming through as "exclamation point equals". Lemmy supports the full on character i.e. ≠
Yah while I'm aware of the situation and what's been said, what has been said wasn't exactly from a highly reputable source, it wasn't even from the DHHS, it was someone who "talked to" RFK, and somehow every news outlet picked it up.
That all said, it could indeed happen, the administration is unhinged and a spike in covid deaths would be great for their plan of manufactured chaos, but they also have a much longer track-record of leaking crazy implications in order to fuck with the valuation of stocks.
They may also be planning to do the Chairman Trump thing again and leverage their threats for a 10% cut of Moderna and Pfizer's profits. I just don't see them cutting off a profitable company for no other reason than an-anti vax narrative they never really cared about, and just pushed to fleece the country's stupidest fucks.
All in all, it's way too unverified and unpredictable to know for sure what's going to happen, however this infographic/poster thing is really terrible. It's framed like an announcement, posted in first-person, and has no links or sources. It's so terrible I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone in the administration made it and leaked it also.
Go get your boosters/vaccines and your kid's vaccines anyway, it shouldn't take this to do the right thing.
- You complete me.
I guess they're not authorizing the licensure of them, so that's why it's so tentative. He's doing the trump vague thing, so you can't go after him directly and then slowly take things away.
The rise in COVID comes as the Trump administration has delayed the rollout of the updated vaccine for the fall. Last year, the federal government had fully green-lighted the annual reformulation of the vaccine by June, in time for a rollout that began in September.
This year, however, the Department of Health and Human Services led by vaccine skeptic Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has in effect delayed the rollout of this fall’s COVID shot.
“Updated COVID-19 vaccines have been delayed this year due to federal policy changes, and we are awaiting [Food and Drug Administration] licensure of this season’s products,” the L.A. County Department of Public Health said in a statement to The Times. “This means availability in September may be later than what people experienced last fall.”
The California Department of Public Health also warned that because the federal government hasn’t made decisions on licensure approvals and recommendations, “availability and timing of specific COVID-19 vaccine products may be more limited and occur on a later schedule.”
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-08-26/covid-rising-fast-in-california-fueled-by-new-stratus-variant-tied-to-omicron

Wait, that's still a thing?

I'm a a solid blue state and the general consensus is no one even cares anymore.

🇨🇦 we approved 'em here. And they're being made here now, too.

I'd say come visit in October, but maybe don't fly in those big aluminum petri dishes!

They actually make some planes from composites now. You should see the 787! Then again American made Boeing planes tend to crash or have other safety issues so maybe don't go and see one.

Don't chastise me as I am genuinely curious -- I saw this clip on Huberman lab where the director of the NIH said that the covid vaccine was net more harmful that good for younger men. Is this not the case?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKu6Sv7hhKW/

The NIH director was appointed by Trump, which came with a pretty strong anti-mask, anti-vaxx, and general 'covid was a hoax' sort of baggage, so he is unfortunately not that credible.
There is a study that correlates to the ages he specifies, but the conclusion is that the risks inflicted by the vaccine were still lower than the risks of COVID itself even for that age group, but no matter how they sliced it the risks either way for the age group was minimal, neither the vaccinne nor COVID were too risky overall. Pre-vaccine chicken pox was deadlier to kids than COVID was to that age group, and we didn't consider that to be particularly risky, mostly worth vaccinating due to heading off the chances for shingles later.
- That's another one I don't understand. In my country at least when I grew up (born 2001) most kids didn't get chickenpox vaccines. I didn't have one and actually caught the virus. I think I even had a scar from it. I know someone about 4 years younger than me who also is scarred from it. Not sure if they started giving it out now. I certainly hope so.
- Gotcha thanks for the info, yeah I don't follow politics too much so was unaware the director was appointed by trump and came in with that baggage.
  Wish Huberman had specified that in the caption
The vaccine has a risk of causing heart complications. It should be monitored. COVID has a much higher risk of heart complications.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9653149/
- In the age group most at risk of COVID-19 vaccine myocarditis (12–29 years), for every 100 000 vaccinated, compared to about four more cases of myocarditis we have 56 fewer hospitalizations, 13.8 admissions to intensive care and 0.6 fewer deaths. Several studies have shown that post vaccine myocarditis/pericarditis are generally short-lasting phenomena with favourable clinically course.
  The paper recognizes a 0.004% increase in mild short term myocarditis, with about a 0.05% decrease in hospitalization, 0.014% decrease in intensive care needs, and a 0.0006% decreased chance of death from COVID.
  Of course, all this suggests that in that age range, it's messing with all very low percentages, so it's pretty much a wash whether they vaccinate or not, statistically speaking. But the vaccine risk is not 'much higher' and the severity of the risk is generally low, and seemingly still technically lower risk than COVID itself, but the risk for any of it is kind of down in the noise.
Trump’s health department is stacked with people hostile to the idea of public health. The People’s CDC, an anti-COVID advocacy organization, had this to say about NIH Director Bhattacharya in March prior to his confirmation:
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya is a health economist with a medical degree but no further medical training or practice. He endorsed and promoted mass COVID-19 infections to pursue an impossible to achieve infection-driven herd immunity. His policies such as mass infections relying on natural immunity would have led to even more illness, Long COVID, and deaths across the US. His extraordinarily wrong views on the pandemic include predicting, even late in 2020, that US COVID deaths would not reach 50,000, and assuring Floridians in mid-2021 that enough had been vaccinated – though far more have died since then. Videos from as recent as 2024 continue to show him advocating ineffective treatments for COVID-19 such as ivermectin, opposing layered protections against COVID-19, and belittling the value of important tools such as masking and vaccines.
Instead of focusing on advancing the medical sciences, Bhattacharya wants to intertwine politics and policies at NIH and prioritize funding based on academic freedom instead of innovative and impactful medical and health sciences research. If confirmed as the director of NIH, he will continue to downplay the seriousness of COVID-19 and potentially other infectious diseases, and steer NIH towards investment in ineffective treatments for diseases such as focusing on seroprevalence studies. Ultimately, this will harm and reverse the already monumental discoveries at NIH. He will likely assist Secretary Kennedy’s current efforts to delay and even prevent the development of effective therapeutics for infectious diseases, including COVID-19 – and for Long COVID. Finally, there is no reason to think he will fight this administration’s attacks on NIH staffing and cuts in research funding.
- Ahh there it is, I wasn't aware of this, thanks!
- Are they anti-covid advocacy, or anti covid-advocacy? I'm pretty sure it's the former from context but I'm still kind of unsure.
i wouldnt trust info coming from someone like trumps admin, who is stuffed with his lackeys. especially someone lIKE RFK jr who doesnt believe in vaccines.
- Gonna be hard for some people to remember that .gov sites are compromised sources now.
I would suggest speaking with a doctor you trust who also knows your medical history, if you are indeed a young man.
- Young in spirit not age lol, was just curious
Tldr: us gov is no longer reliable for basically anything good, and can be now considered as explicitly and actively hostile to us all

FYI there are NO COVID vaccines that are covered by the VICP (https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/covered-vaccines). They are only covered by the CICP. If you are medically injured from a COVID vaccines the CICP will not ever pay you pain and suffering or other damages. They will literally only cover medical bills which you didn't get covered already from your insurance. You will fight for years and years just to get that covered and that's if they even cover you at all which they probably won't. I was personally injured by a COVID vaccine and I am one of only 39 people to have received a medical payment for my injury. (See data here: https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp/cicp-data)

My insurance covered over $50,000 of medical treatment after I got myocarditis from the vaccine. Luckily I have good insurance and only had to pay less than $2000 out of pocket and it took me 5 years to get that $2000 back. The treatment I underwent was the worst experience of my life and the most painful. It was from a bad batch of vaccines and I wasn't the only young person in my area that received the bad batch.

The vaccine makers must be held accountable for paying for issues from their vaccines and that's what the VICP is for but COVID vaccine is not part of that coverage!

Do not get a COVID vaccine if you don't need it. Demand your local government officials make adding COVID vaccines to the VICP list a priority!

Who pays if you get myocarditis from COVID?
11 cases per 100,000 from vaccine
infection with SARS‐CoV‐2 increases the risk of myocarditis by 16‐fold from 9 cases per 100 000 to 150 cases per 100 000.
I'll take my chances lmao
- the newer vaccine seems less likely to cause that too.

LPT: Go get a shot, now.

Saw the US flag, read it without the "a"

Did they even release the shots for 2025-2026 yet?

yeah not yet, I'll be getting them quickly but I was already going to do that. Have had covid twice now (vaccinated both times, and well after the initial couple of years) and would vastly prefer to only get it while vaccinated.
- had a mild one in '23 because dad dint get boosters, and was infected by him. luckily this year i was hit with the COLD INStead for the first time since 2020, the symptoms were more intense though. if it was the flu, i would be pretty much screwed the whole week.
Supposed to be released very soon (as in days, not weeks). The real LPT is to wait for the new version first.
mid September is what I heard for those

Why? Since COVID has become something similar to a flu it's only advisory for people with high risk profiles to get the vaccine.

It isn't like the flu and all the non-liars know it.
Yeah true, kinda like how the flu shot is also widely available and free most autumn and winter time periods. Weird.

So if one already had a dose of the previous booster about a year or so ago, would it be helpful to get the same version of the booster again now?

Is the post simply suggesting to people that haven't yet had the booster go get it? Or is it saying you're better off getting the same booster again rather than nothing?

Also, I'm assuming people with the means to go to a different country without these laughing stock "leaders" would be better waiting for those countries to approve and release up-to-date vaccines.

My understanding is that because of the type of protien that it encodes for, the immunity imparted by the vaccine decreases over time (because of complex immune system reasons). Never to 0%, but lower. The annual booster not only prepares you better for oncoming strains (in theory, when the vaccine research, development, and approval systems work as expected), but re-ups your immunity to existing strains.
The theory as I understand it is that because viruses like COVID-19 pass through populations in waves, your body is developing a very strong short-term immunity to neutralize any immediate "rebound" waves (imagine a wave bouncing off the side of a pool, yes, viruses move through populations like that). It then maintains a weaker, long-term response. By fooling your immune system into thinking you have COVID-19 right now, the vaccine bumps your body ino "short-term" response mode, so your best possible immune response is at the ready if the real thing shows up.
I am not an epidimeologist, but I read a lot of their work from 2020-2023. I might have details wrong, but if it's been >6mo since you've had a booster, you would probably benefit from getting another one.
- Virus waves are exacerbated by holiday schedules. First school starts and kids are a massive disease vector. Then Thanksgiving comes and people spread it to their families and bring it back home. Then it has a month to spread and then Christmas comes.
yea your memory b-cells are the one that maintains at a low levels of antibodies against certain disease, it is one of the reasons measles is dangerous they damage the dendritic cells which presents antigens to b-cells so your bascially partially immunosuppressed, besides the acute infection.

Who still cares about COVID 19

People that aren't idiots?
Anyone in healthcare who are still seeing knockdown effects of the disease for long term health effects in their patients. Oh, and those who have empathy.
Exactly

<---- hexbear is that way
- Hedbear is overwhelmingly covid conscious, and explicitly supports masking and vaccination.

This makes the wearing of N95s and routinely washing your hands triply important. Put your masks on people.

Outside of the US, mRNA vaccines are too expensive, now that governments have ended subsidies. I'll stick with my old school SinoVac vaccine as they're what I can afford, and they got me thru the worst of the pandemic. Thank you Chinese government for putting people over profit.

In my country the're still free lol, also, SinoVac, is effective, but way less so than mRNA vaccines, here in chile, basically everyone got vaccinated again and again with different vaccines.

I skipped my C-19 shot. The Flu shot I still get. There is a reason the C-19 shots recommendations have changed.

What a dumb thing to say.
The reason is lying terrorists lying.
And pathetic bitches like you are helping them.
Yeah, the reason is that RFK Jr. is a hack.
Good, I hope you get COVID and suffer its consequences.
- Well, I received the shot and booster prior to skipping all future shots. I did get C-19 like about 3yrs after my booster. It was as expected body sore and similar to flu symptoms.
  Since I don’t regularly interact with public by not leaving home. I am not worried about it, but thanks for believing in me.
The reason the "shots recommendations have changed" is the sociological production of the end of the pandemic.
COVID, especially long COVID are causing longterm organ damage and massive increases in disability(Pandemic Accountability Index "What COVID-19 Does to the Body, June 2025).
I can't tell you why governments of different political leanings around the world are supporting various levels of this vibes-based public health negligence "it's over"-brain.
But I can tell you my immediate family member got COVID again this year - almost nobody wearing masks where they live, so they rarely wear one even though they had terrible long COVID before - and was sick in bed for another 10 days. They had had to argue to be allowed a COVID booster vaccination, a couple of months before that.