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Careful, winning an argument with a mod earns a free lifetime ban.

So just like the old subreddit then? Weird how that piece of culture sticks with them.

Careful, winning an argument with a mod earns a free lifetime ban.

Im gonna speedrun a ban rq

It's full of bad faith arguments, putting rules before humanity, the strictest possible interpretation of those rules, and they LOVE to put words in your mouth or waste your time asking for resources that they won't read and will just respond "What are you even talking about?" because they've already moved the goal posts. Their newest mod spent his first hour as a mod getting in fights about Hunter Biden's laptop and is so vehemently against tax increases because he's one of the rich whose taxes would probably go up. He'll gladly tell you that the rich are already paying TOO MUCH and they wouldn't benefit from paying more.

But, hey, at least they ban the R word and homophobia.

I can understand conservatism at a base level. While it's not something I agree with, I can see why people would lean towards it, and respect that people have different political beliefs.

However, as someone in Europe...what most Americans believe is conservatism would be very right-wing anywhere else in the developed world. If anything, many conservatives in Europe are at odds with the rise of the right, as populism has pushed traditional conservatism out of the conservative parties. In the UK, Boris Johnson literally kicked many conservatives out of the conservatives for not backing him on a Brexit vote, leaving the current PM Rishi Sunak looking at an election wipeout AND basically no MP's remaining that believe in what the party was originally about.

I feel for those that have lost their party, because it basically means that the likes of Trump (win or lose) will likely mean few people that can continue their beliefs in their primary party.

It's an echo chamber filled with snowflakes over there. You're not allowed to challenge their fee-fees.

Why even go to any conservative board? Same for the tankie boards. It's just madness in there

Being banned from a conservative zone is like a mark of quality humanship.

Except Lemmy seems to have just as many insane extreme “leftists” and tankies that also “both sides” everything.

Make America Boring Again

Lügenpresse! -Donald Trump

Trump sure was entertaining. We in Finland have had quite a lot of Biden news around us joining NATO but otherwise things have been pretty quiet. I fear the Americans are going to make things interesting again.

I genuinely think that the only reason so many people aren't able to admit that is because of Gaza.

I totally agree, but I also think that every president for the last 50+ years would have walked out of office and into a prison cell in a just world. Judged in that context, Biden looks pretty good.

Also, a ham sandwich would have beaten Trump in 2020. I know this because half the Biden supporters on Reddit were constantly paving over Biden's deep flaws by pointing out that they would pick a ham sandwich over Trump. I have no idea why it was always a ham sandwich. All Biden had to do was hide in his basement and not say anything mind-blisteringly stupid. That and avoid catching COVID from Trump on the debate stage.

I think Obama was better in charisma and speeches. Which is motivating. But Biden is damn good.

You're quite literally an idiot if this isn't disingenuous

This guy LOVES a good old fashioned genocide.

There's other good answers here, but there's a more basic one.

Biden simply doesn't have the charisma of Obama or the outlandishness of Trump. The reason he was an effective leader in the Senate was because of his ability to coordinate people and get shit done.

It's what he's done as President as well. It's good organizational leadership, but it isn't flashy.

Two reasons. First, there's GOP just blanket hating on anything without their party's Seal of Approval, sometime posing as democrats.

Second, it's in the nature of progressives to want something better. To point out that, while [thing] may be OK, it could be improved, even in small ways. So, while you're comparing Biden and Trump, they're comparing Biden with some Platonic ideal President. Most of them will, when it comes to the actual ballot, and they have to choose between the two actual candidates, vote against Trump, but they'll grouse about it. The others probably weren't going to get off the couch for anyone, anyway.

The only people who are really pushing the trump agenda are Russian bots. Like they did during his first campaign only then it was pizzagate Hilary bullshit.

They're angry and justify to avoid challenging their own worldview. Apart from general evil, that basically sums it up. To expand: Plenty of them are convinced what they are doing is right. They legitimately believe they are on the right side. We don't really see this because we aren't constantly soaking up the same news every single day. We aren't surrounded by people parroting false truths without a check (though we are in our own nodes), and we challenge one another's beliefs, something people leaning left tend to do. For the rest it is about hurting others. A much smaller percentage could be convinced they're wrong and just haven't found a strong enough reason to challenge what they believe in.

None of this is good. Though we will gain the most ground by attempting to be understanding and being firm whenever needed.

I honestly don't get the hate against Biden.

I hate on Biden, even though I believe he is a good president overall. My hate stems for the very obvious (maybe petty) reason:

He is the wrong direction. The way to beat fascism is by being bold, progressive and forward thinking. Biden is basically the “let’s play it safe” candidate. All well and good, but clearly he did not reduce the appetite for fascism.

And yes, I think Bernie would have.

Prior to being the VP and now President, he had a long political career as an establishment corporate Democrat. His home state is where almost all US usury is headquartered, and he consistently sold out the American people to those corporations. He sponsored the bill removing bankruptcy options from student loans, sided with the banks and credit card companies on interest rates and fees, was a war hawk, and was more than "it was just how it was at the time" racist.

Essentially every bit of the "whole lot of good" has been an 11th hour change of heart and fixing problems he was more than complicit in creating. Add to that the DNC manipulation to block other candidates, and you have the South Park special of a Douche vs. a Turd Sandwich.

i honestly don't get the hate against drumpf, isn't the us a fascist state already?

Reminds me of Monte pythons the life of Brian

He mAdE tHe pRiCe oF cHeeSe Go uP!

Apparently he personally killed thousands of Palestinian babies. /s

First we gotta make sure he isn't president again. Or else it'll be a long time before anyone will be able to forget him.

I'm planning a party the day he dies, but before/after that, I'm down to never hear his name again.

I'd also love to never hear about him again.

Sadly, I'm pretty sure he's going to win in November.

But doesn't The Ace of Spades get a bit old after a while?

Everybody thinks they'll come out on top after a "revolution" but they almost certainly will not. Such chaos is far more likely to help than hurt fascists. That's kind of their jam.

There's a chapter in uncle Bob's book Clean Code about how everybody dreams of a grand redesign in the sky, but that it never really works out in the end.

I'm sure the same would apply to laws of society.

Revolution will fix everything.

Me, living in Paris in 1926, excited about how the new commune movement will fix everything permanently

Me, moving to Shanghai two years later, because that are the odds of this happening twice?

Also known as accelerationism, yeah

There are only so many ways to get the kind of society that works, and far too many ways for it to go wrong. It's kind of a crazy idea to think that burning it down and starting over would be beneficial.

I believe Steve Bannon's quote was, "flood the zone with shit." News is by definition, new, so if you never give people a chance to talk about what happened 5 hours ago, nobody is ever pissed off for the same reason.

I think it's just because the media reports the negative things that happened under Trump more loudly than they reported the positive things under Biden.

Of course they are. After all the allure of spreading fake news anonymously is strong indeed. In such environment default stance is trolling and conscious effort is required to not to when there are no consequences.

Like how do people like that exist with themselves

In 2016 it was reported by several places that tens of millions of Americans can't absorb a sudden $400 expense without going further into debt. That number has grown significantly under Biden, which is why people don't care about articulating their opinion of why he's a bad president. (For instance, in 2023, homelessness jumped 12%)

Their lives just got harder, and that experience is all they need.

Anything from the first page should have disqualified him.

Who?

What’s going to win this election for Trump is that he can market himself as the candidate of change.

People don't understand the power of this, but that was like, half of obama's whole schtick, his whole charisma, despite being a kind of lukewarm libshit president a lot of the time. There's a lot of power to that kind of marketing, there's a lot of power to the anti-institutional appeal, for americans.

I sincerely doubt you have much to add that is philosophical or thought provoking, if this (honestly tired old image) was enough to make you respond like anyone who criticizes Trump, or attacks bad takes about how both sides are bad, makes everyone here extremists. And now you must flee to a safe haven where nobody does that? Is that not... Seeking to participate in a different echo chamber? Do you not see how ridiculous that is?

So the silver lining is that it is easier for you to get high?

Having Biden in power meant you didn’t have to give a shit who lived and who died because “Trump could be worse”.

I do have to give a shit, but that's because I'm in a red state.

As a Texas resident, I get to see a new draconian set of fascist laws constrict around Harris County with every State Congressional cycle.

The Biden DOJ doesn't intervene. The local Democrats (John Whitmire, our Houston Mayor, is a prime example) just roll over in the face of it. And folks who protest to loud or too long routinely find themselves dead in the state prison system (the one with cells that go up to 100 degrees in the summer).

"Oh but look at what Biden has done for California and Minnesota and Delaware, tho!"

Yeah, thanks. I don't live there.

Folks in Texas and Florida and South Carolina and the Dakotas are getting thrown to the fucking wolves.

Yeah, what could canceling 144 billion Dollars in student loan debt do?

Question:

Has not having that office done any good?

He is doing all that. How many of his speeches and campaign stops and addresses are you watching? How many White House Press briefings do you watch? How many press releases do you read every day? On the one hand the media doesn't do a great job reporting, on the other hand a lot of us don't pay attention. Or we're just not paying attention to the media sources that actually cover these things.

He's finally starting to gently point it out, but this lack of messaging is more about how the DNC is total dogshit at messaging.

WE NEED MORE accurate DARK BRANDON MEMES

Killing qasem soleimani, Moving the embassy to Jerusalem, Destabilizing Nato, Withdrew from the Iran Nuclear Deal, all the stuff with Kim Jong Un.

what would you say the current president is doing today?

The opposite.

To my knowledge the only sections of wall he's built were funded by Trump's Congress before he left office. Meaning he had little choice but to spend the money on what Congress appropriated it for.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather not live in a world where someone like Trump can just decide he doesn't want to spend portions of the money Congress appropriated. He could just suddenly decide that the federal government isn't going to pay like Medicaid or SNAP.

Yes, lying all the time must be very tiring.

Maybe you should stop doing it.