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  • your "boycott" was already happening naturally because (ayk) lemmy.ml's mods are insufferable

    • We need to call on more servers to defederate with lemmy.ml if we want more people to join the platform, I dont want my friends' first experience of the platform to be a tankie post.

      • 100% of the people that I've recommended Lemmy to have admonished me for even so much as having mentioned it, citing the extremist rhetoric that calls for violent upheaval of all capitalist systems in the Western world.

        If I do a Google search (yuck I know), Lemmy.ml is the 4th hit, and the top hit for an actual instance. On it, the default view shows only Local posts so... yup, that's what a day-1 noob would see, is that instance making fun of capitalism especially the USA.

        From the actual top instance, Lemmy.World, those posts make up a significantly smaller percentage of the feed, but how would people know that? And they aren't nothing either.

        Also, blocking an instance from Lemmy does very little to curb the onslaught of toxicity from it: that merely mutes the communities hosted there, whereas the users are still free to harass you, triggering notifications, vote to influence the visibility of your content, etc. I was browsing All and made the mistake of replying to a comment in ChapoTrapHouse@hexbear.net one day, and then did that again in lemmygrad.ml, and each time received replies for WEEKS and WEEKS afterwards. I almost quit the fediverse entirely:-(. Browsing from All, how was I supposed to know what those communities, or instances, were all about - was that truly "my" fault for being ignorant? Either way, I almost left, so I understand why none of the irl people I mention Lemmy to will stay either.

        The people arguing against defederation are ignoring how users can be harassed here against their consent, and since no other alternatives are being made available on Lemmy to deal with the situation, defederation remains as the only option left.

        (Side-note: PieFed does offer several intriguing alternatives, including showing the sidebar text below every post so that someone knows what the community standards are, even arriving at the post from All rather than going through the community page first, and labelling certain instances with special text, e.g. for Beehaw it says:

        This post is hosted on beehaw.org which has higher standards of behaviour than most places. Be nice.

        with that link to the exact text offered by the instance admins describing their alternative and unusual moderation practices in their own words; and another is in labelling users to allow democratization of moderation rather than a binary remove/retain decision - although while all of these experimental features are awesome, PieFed's UI is quite a bit behind Lemmy's so not quite ready for the masses.)

        How do I block users from an instance of my choice?

      • I'd rather have .ml scaring shitlibs away while they stay on block, best of both worlds.

  • I don't think the meme makes sense. The ml users don't seem to care how much other content is out there. They still participate as much as they'd like.

  • Yeah do this,
    So after we can finally talk about mods on LW, being pro Israel and moderating comments against IDF.

    Oh ? That will not happen ? 😱

  • The beauty of the fediverse is that you can make it how you want. You can self select into a instance that best reflects your individual values. You can block what you want. You can see publicly what the instance and moderators are doing.

    Why would anyone be mad about that?

  • I wish I could. But as a mod, it very much helps to leave all people and instances/communities unblocked.

    • My sympathies - I had to do that on Reddit and it was an enormous relief when I finally stepped down and was able to block a particularly onerous troll (who was mostly fairly helpful to the community itself, just singling me out as the only mod to receive his ire - I had offered to make him one but he turned it down). I hope you are able to preserve your sanity, b/c your mental health is important too, as well as all those that you protect from people's toxicity (from whatever instance it may derive from). :-)

      • Yeah, It’s a mostly thankless “job” but it’s good to feel that I’m helping to build something. And at least so far- the trolls are mostly tolerable.

        Thanks so much for the response and kind words.

  • yes, please continue this trend isolating yourselves from the fediverse

    lemmy.world is the most toxic instance and every insanely bloodthirsty, racist, misogynistic, or otherwise vile take seems to come from your lot

  • ITT: Excuse me. Are you the Judean People's Front?

    F*** off! We're the People's Front of Judea

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