Republican Party's HQ set ablaze, tagged with "ICE=KKK" in New Mexico
The Republican Office of New Mexico's headquarters in Albuquerque was intentionally set on fire in an act of arson.
Let us not forget: it was the Democrat Party that once supported the formation of the KKK, pushed Jim Crow laws, and defended slavery
They like to conveniently forget that the parties had a flip. So yes, while the democrats IN NAME pushed all that abhorrent ideals, those democrats are the Republicans today.
Amy is correct. Therefore, we should take down all the monuments to the Confederates that those Democrats put up.
I wonder if this could actually happen. Some of those local ballot measures are deliberately written in a confusing manner anyway. If someone managed to get "remove all democrat-placed statues prior to 1960" on a ballot in a red area I bet it'd pass.
And as I like to say, we used to prescribe cigarettes for asthma. The times will change.
The alr right shows have claimed to debunk that myth and that the Dems are the true racists. It's like gas lighting for the centrists/right-wing.
Well, Newsweek is out as news. They should have followed up with factual history about how these parties switched. (Where are the whigs in all this?????)
America always being 2 party, in my own hindsight, should have been suspect. The world is not binary.
Not that I had control of when or where I was born.
America has always been two-party (that's the inevitable game-theory result of how our elections are designed), but it hasn't always been the same two parties. When the Whigs were a thing, the Republican Party didn't exist yet.
They also realigned three or four times without changing names.
See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_parties_in_the_United_States
That was such a disingenuous comment. Literally relying on the peoples lack of history knowledge to distort the truth. It's fucking doublespeak.
Don't lie to my face and tell me I like it.
During the last election, billboards had signs up in my area saying exactly that: Republicans ended slavery blah blah blah. They just bank on the wide populace to not know the history of the parties.
They conveniently deny that fact
While that is the pop culture explanation it isn't quite right. In order for the parties to have flipped. The rural xenophobic bigots would have had to go to the Republican party. And the Republicans fascists would have had to have gone to the Democratic party.
The KKK and the bigots switched. The parties didn't really. The true irony being the KKK and Southern bigots were the huge influence on European fascists. But in the United States they were technically opposed simply because they had traditionally been in different political parties. But civil rights legislation brought about a realignment. Our ignorant xenophobic bigots and our fascist suddenly found themselves Brothers in Arms.
The party's polarized along the xenophobia and bigotry lines. But they didn't really switch.
They swapped names?
More "they swapped ideals" a long time ago.
Ive only ever met one modern Republican who has explicitly aknowlaged it. When he asked me "do you like any famous Republicans" I responded "Lincoln wasnt too bad and John Brown was amazing". He immediately responded "uhhh the Republicans used to be woke, the Democrats used to be the party of freedom".
Okay, but millions and millions of blacks, Asians, Latinos, Mexicans... etc... are republicans... are they racist?
Ignorant and have been lied to. Rememeber the 30,000 confirmed lies in his first term? Also many many minorities have already come out saying they regret their vote.
I was in a Portal, Arizona recently, which is a pretty rural area. On the radio a public service type advertisement came on explaining your rights if you get arrested by or encounter ICE. It felt like something from a movie.
They should broadcast in Spanish and Ukrainian too.
Whoever did it, no they didn't, we were playing CIV 5 together at that time
Can confirm. I was in the same game
Whoever did it should also immediately dispose of their ICE=KKK stencil and realize that a using a stencil is a really stupid way to get caught.
I'd like to think it was in the fire
Clearly a false flag attack based on that spray paint alone.
Why would you bother burning the GOP HQ because of ICE? Not that I would condone it, but I'd probably write something like, "When fascism comes to America, it will be carrying a cross and wrapped in a flag". Plus, ICE is operating more the the SS than the KKK. SS was a legal government organization that systematically persecuted the state's enemies using brutal tactics and complete disregard of human rights to get results. KKK is just a bunch racist beerbellied 'good ol boys' who are worried that black men are going woo all their eligible sisters. Anyone actually frustrated enough with the situation to set fire to a building wouldn't spray paint such a silly miscomparison.
Why would using one be an issue though? If the stencil is disposed afterwards, I don't see an issue.
That's a crime in and of itself. Who even plays Civ 5??
Huh?
6 has too many DLCs for my taste and 4 just kinda feels outdated with tetragons for tiles. I won't buy 7 unless the Steam reviews greatly improve with updates. It sounds unfinished, and probably you'll have to pay hundreds to get all the DLC to finish it. I MIGHT pirate it to check it out down the line.
Honestly not the best alibi, seeing that it's completely plausible to go out and commit arson in the time it takes between late game Civ turns.
Make fascists fear for their lives.
Oh brother..
what do you call a nazi hq set on fire?
a good start.
Based on Jan6; sounds like the perps just earned pardons!
For what? I saw them grabbing ice cream from a stand just outside the view of any cameras, at the time.
Wrong side. More likely they earned a terrorism upgrade.
"He who saves his country commits no crime."
As the perps here are attempting to do!
I can't imagine a democratic president pardoning someone for burning buildings.
I can't imagine a republican president pardoning someone for building republican buildings.
Probably not going to happen.
Will be interesting to see how they handle whoever did this considering the guy who shot up the democratic offices in az and had 100000 rounds a machine gun and a grenade launcher got out on bond to await trial… I have my doubts they will be treated similarly
My first thought was a false flag operation to make the Left look like terrorists.
Alex Jones has basically been “something is going to happen, and the left is either going to do something or false flag to try to blame us” over and over and over again since the inauguration. Pretty graphic depictions of the kinds of violent deaths he wishes for migrants to experience.
A reminder to people who call this an act of violence, it isn't. Violence can only be committed against living things. This is arson which is a type of vandalism. If there are people or animals inside, then it's violence. If only property is damaged it's vandalism or sabotage, depending on the purpose of the damage.
That's ridiculous!!
ICE is clearly the American Gestapo.
You know what they say, one man's ICE is another man's KKK is another man's Gestapo is another man's Republican. Hard to tell them apart, really.
The Great Filter is not climate or pestilence or asteroids, it's authoritarians.
That's Gazpacho!
Hey, this soup is cold. Take it back and warm it up, immediately!
are we going with ICEtapo, ICEstapo, or gICEtapo
I'm pleasantly surprised at the levelheaded reporting. It's strikingly neutral, to the point where the Republican quote sounds like a shrill shreak in a sea of reasonableness.
There's no call for perpetrators being hunted down, no death threats, it's all very civil.
Newsweek is pretty good in general
I love republican party HQ's they so flammable and quirky <3
Weird, sometimes Republican headquarters just do that.
If it was a legitimate arson, the building would have had a way of shutting this whole thing down. Seems to me like the building was asking for it.
Just don't leave fingerprints on the bottle :)
Just get the bottles from Pete hegseth's bins. There are bound to be more than enough.
Local Nazi HQ happened to be set on fire. Anyway have a good week.
Oh brother... here we go. with the Nazi word... AGAIN.
Yeah, The shoe fits or you must be a fan of Roman salutes and no due process as well.
The Republican Party is the Nazi party in America.
Stupid. I'm Mexican, my family and I are Nazis because we have conservative views? Lol... now you know why your side lost.
What is stupid is voting for a human piece of shit like Donald Trump. When your family members are picked up and sent to an El Salvador prison for no reason get back to me on your decision to vote for that fucking Nazi.
now we are talking
“We will not allow New Mexico's broken criminal justice system to dilute the seriousness of this attack."
Sounds like they are declaring extrajudicial punishment for whoever they deem guilty.
Probably just God making it spontaneously combust.
Buildings have ways to stop from catching fire if it really doesn't want to be burnt down.
Is this the rap analogy? Nice.
God works in mysterious ways.
Ban the fire department. The GOP building has ways of rejecting illegitimate fires.
Fire departments are socialism anyway.
That (R) statement is about what I'd expect from them. Hyperbole and fearmongering.
Colorado sees you, New Mexico.
Doesn't look like anything to me.
This could be a Reichstag Fire moment. It’s near the border and gives Trump precedent to strengthen operations there.
I'm not sure they really need a Reichstag fire. Whoever's on board at this point, or any time since Jan 6th, is down for whatever.
The point is to pacify the moderates and make leftist resistance look like an insane reaction.
He would have found one anyway
Oh no. Anyway...
Nice.
Now that's the kind of direct action I like to see!
In definently not upset
Sounds to me like a bunch of people having a good time in a festive atmosphere.
A peaceful tour of an ice facility
reading the last quote in that article i'm 75% convinced it was an inside job to create a scare tactic to brainwash more republicans. talking about democrats from the 1860s in INSANE
false flag, reichstag? same tactics. its a sound bites for fox, and for the right wing grifters to rant about.
Keep in mind that on average over the last century, nonviolent resistance is more likely to succeed than violent resistance (East Timor, People's Power Revolution in the Philippines, etc.). It's all a numbers game- the more people actively supporting resistance, the more likely the resistance is to succeed, and you'll have far more sign-ups when you prioritize nonviolent methods.
(Can't exactly say that I condemn this, but I'll take democracy over revenge/"justice" any day of the week)
The destruction of property while sparing lives is a form on non-violent resistance.
That's a solid point. I'm being a bit unfair here
America does not recognize peaceful protest. They are calling them terrorists. Act accordingly.
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
This is something that I have thought about. While I am ignorant to the examples you gave, I was wondering, were there violent resistances happening at the same time? Like the civil rights movement in the US you had a more peaceful movement along side a more violent one, in a similar manner to ghandi, while he was preaching peaceful resistance, there were more violent groups at the same time. I know it's easy to come across as being a dick in forums like this, but I'm genuinely asking.
Specifically in the Philippines, the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (yes they had MILF flags) as well as the maoist New People's Army also fought the government before and after the time of the People's Power Revolution.
Most successful instances of revolution included a threat, or use, of violence. IE: Blank Panthers in the US, IRA in Ireland, the citizens of Italy, etc...
Anyone who thinks non-violent revolution is likely is ignorant to the majority of human history. Is it possible? Sure, probably. Is it likely? No, far from it.
There are few movements that are completely violent or nonviolent. There isn't really any scholarly consensus on whether a radical violent flank actually helps the "core" nonviolent group, or under which circumstances it helps the group. I recommend reading "Why Civil Resistance Works" by Erica Chenoweth for an overview of the factors that lead to the success (or failure) of resistance as well as more concrete examples.
The numbers speak for themselves - violent resistance can succeed, but nonviolent resistance is more likely to succeed. The key finding from Chenoweth's review of resistance movements between 1900-2006 is that the strongest determining factor in whether a resistance is successful is the percentage of the populace actively involved in resisting. This seems like a "water is wet" finding, but consider the difficulties in recruiting members to violent resistance (training involved, physical ability barriers, moral barriers, informational barriers - hard to advertise for recruits without informing on yourself, etc.) vs nonviolent resistance (almost no training necessary, easy to inform about time/place, fewer physical ability barriers, etc.)
Here's the full passage about flank effects:
The coercive capacity of nonviolent resistance is not based on violent disruption to the social order. Rather, it is based on the removal of the adversary’s key sources of power through sustained acts of protest and noncooperation. Some may argue that nonviolent resistance is powerful only because regimes fear that they will become violent, thereby posing even greater threats. Social movement scholars refer to this dynamic as a “positive radical flank effect.” This concept posits that violence may sometimes increase the leverage of challengers, which occurs when states offer selective rewards and opportunities to moderate competitor groups to isolate or thwart the more radical organizations. In other words, the presence of a radical element in the opposition may make the moderate oppositionists in the nonviolent campaign seem more palatable to the regime, thereby contributing to the success of the nonviolent campaign. In this way, some argue that violent and nonviolent campaigns can be symbiotic, in that the presence of both types improves their relative positions.18
But opposition violence is just as likely—if not more likely—to have the opposite result. A “negative radical flank effect,” or spoiler effect, occurs when another party’s violence decreases the leverage of a challenge group. In this case, the presence of an armed challenge group causes the regime’s supporters to unify against the threat without making a distinction between violent and nonviolent challenges, which are lumped together as the same threat deserving the same (violent) response
There is no consensus among social scientists about the conditions under which radical flanks either harm or help a social movement.19 In our estimation, however, many successful nonviolent campaigns have succeeded because they systematically eroded or removed entirely the regime’s sources of power, including the support of the economic and military elites, which may have hesitated to support the opposition if they had suspected that the campaign would turn violent. The more a regime’s supporters believe a campaign may become violent, or that their interests will be gutted if the status quo is changed, the more likely that those supporters and potential participants may perceive the conflict to be a zero-sum game (Stephan and Chenoweth 2008, 9–13). As a response, regime supporters are likely to unite to counter the perceived threat, while potential participants may eschew participation for the reasons just identified. A unified adversary is much harder to defeat for any resistance campaign. In conflicts perceived as zerosum, furthermore, it is difficult for erstwhile regime supporters to modify and adapt their ideologies and interests according to shifts in power. Instead, they will fight tooth and nail to keep their grip on power, relying on brutal force if necessary. There is less room for negotiation, compromise, and power sharing when regime members fear that even small losses of power will translate into rolling heads. On the other hand, our central point is that campaigns that divide the adversary from its key pillars of support are in a better position to succeed. Nonviolent campaigns have a strategic advantage in this regard.
The reason why the fascists want you to protest peacefully, is because it makes it easier for them to ignore you.
Also, easier to shoot you if you're unarmed.
I find it hard to believe anyone would actually equate ICE with the KKK when the only thing they really have in common is racism. They're much more equatable to the Gestapo and KGB
KKKGB
Thoughts and prayers
First “resisters” I’ve had respect for
Did you forget about the attempted nazi march in Cincinnati? The locals set fire to their shit and sent them scurrying back to their Uhaul.
More of that please.
Masked thugs kidnapping people, including PhD students, off the street and into unmarked vehicles.
Yeah, I'd say ICE has some things in common with the KKK.
Also, the burned look works well on that building.
Nature is healing.
It was probably started by someone's cybertruck.
Not surprised a place called new Mexico isn't to nice to ice
New Mexico actually leans left. Not what most expect, but a nice surprise.
I've been to some hippie towns in NM
Why hasn’t the GOP changed the state’s name to New America yet?
Excellent. Only 52 more to go
They are more akin to Gestapo while MAGA as a whole is KKK, but we shouldn't nitpick
Even Godwin himself said that comparing Trump to Hitler and the GOP to Nazis is apt.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/12/19/godwins-law-trump-hitler-00132427
Farts and bears.
I’m thinking this was a false flag attack
yknow, i'm thinking that's not the case. Maybe a schizo right winger. But probably not a false flag. You wouldn't need to false flag this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire
If anything, these people are completely unoriginal.
Usually the false flag comes before the flagrant abuse of power to justify it.
The current abuse of power is only the beginning
Republicans are crisis actors.
Reichstag fire was my first thought... Hopefully not.
However, nobody really GAF about a GOPer HQ being burned.