Why do you use what I gave you?!
Why do you use what I gave you?!
Why do you use what I gave you?!
If you really like running why would you ever stop running?
bad knees.
Guess you dont like running then
What kind of psychopath enjoys working?
I enjoy working. I just hate being told what to work on
For own personal growth or the general benefit of my local society absolutely.
Don’t even need a salary as long as the means to live happy are otherwise provided.
For the profit of a corporation? No, yuck!
People who sit at a desk for 4 hours a week doing jack all and making 100x what their full Time employees make.
I've seen lots and lots of discussions on whether people like or not working, and it always sums up to people giving different meanings to the word "work". When it comes to do things as a hobby, for a cause, or for fulfilling any objective we have, most people will say that they enjoy it, but when it comes to serving someone else on a schedule, just to afford to stay alive, I've never seen anyone say that they enjoy it.
Edit: some combination of words from my comment and the general theme made me somehow think about the music stayin' alive, and I can't get it out of my head anymore!
If I have to work Im going to find something that stimulates me in a way I find interesting. Or you could just say I like it.
If you really enjoy your job, why would you ever want time away from it?
Good point, maybe you should think about that a little harder bro.
I have such a hard time imagining this is actually a real person writing a real post.
It’s way easier if you assume that any LinkedIn post you see is satire.
definitely better for my image of humanity
USA needs some worker rights laws(apart from free healthcare, free education and others), in normal countries you'll be in trouble if you somehow didn't take your 28 days(more in some) of vacation, or were spotted at work in those days.
in normal countries you'll be in trouble if you somehow didn't take your [leave]
I don't know how it works where you are, in my workplace if you don't take enough leave you need to make an agreement with your manager to take some leave soon; if you fail to make an agreement or the agreement is too far in the future you are put on leave.
I don't count that as being in trouble, it's about giving the worker the power to say "if you won't approve my leave, the system will force leave and you'll have no choice of when"
I don't like that either. People shouldn't be penalized for not taking vacation. That's just a different form of taking away their choice.
This is not a good take. It opens for an implicit expectation from your employer that you should not use your vacation. If you get passed over for promotion because you took out vacation it is not really a choice, is it?
That's stupid. Are you mad that they don't let you work when the office is closed too?
Well you could work on vacation but it's usually paid 2-4 times per hour. So it depends on your employer willing to pay that much.
He's not wrong, IF companies were worker controlled by law. Like a cooperative. Workers would enjoy their work more and would want to work more if they had agency. We are supposed to be a democracy, so why don't get workers the right to vote on who their managers are, what to do with the profits (after paying back loans) and how many working hours there should be?
Imagine if you'd mandate that even shitshows like fox news were suddenly worker controlled instead of by incorporated demons of greed. Workers generally want to create a good product and make customers happy, and in the case of news agencies they'd want to inform their readers well.
Meh, there's no world where people are going to actually enjoy doing tedious, repetitive tasks even if they fully own their surplus labor. This was always my beef with the antiwork subreddit. "Socialism is when nobody digs ditches."
There will always be shitty jobs until we fully automate society. The guy doing hard labor in the hot sun is always going to resent the guy working in AC even if they both own their surplus labor. This is why socialism is still just harm reduction on the path to achieving a post scarcity, post labor society.
I could tell it was satire because of his title, "probably the weirdest CEO of a recruit", but it's one of those cases where you just know a significant amount of bosses looks at that and sincerely agree
I hate that we are in a timeline that I can't be absolutely sure that this is satire anymore.
Sure is! The last photo is hilarious actually
i am never happy. not my thing.
me irl
I’m reasonably sure it’s not?
I had a manager that said these things. These people are ghouls.
A show of vision only a Super CEO can have
That almost brings it over the line, but no, I think it's serious. Only a heroic CEO could have the vision to give people time off. It's nothing like what unions have been clamoring to do for over a century.
"I offered my employees a salary, they then expected the full salary paid out. Miserable, ungrateful wretches."
After being America pilled I moved to China and had a British roommate. My mind was blown when he told me his mom took paid vacation days to tidy the house. I would NEVER dream of using the 14 days of vacation I had in the USA to clean the fucking house. Just IMAGINE having so much time off that you'd even consider using some to clean the house. It seemed awesome to me.
As a Brit that's crazy, that's what WFH is for ;)
"I'm an insufferable rich cunt who doesn't do much at work, I have enough money to pay other people to do everything for me in the rest of my life, so I spend my free time persuing any hobby or interest I want, I'm also very empty inside so spend most of my time working."
spend most of my time pretending to work
FIFY. Those meetings aren't gonna conduct themselves, you know!
Sounds like a real stupid guy.
I mean, he already said he was a CEO…
True, true.
Even if you love doing something, you'll eventually want a break. What this guy is describing is addiction. Work addiction is one of many types of addiction that isn't even seen as such because while it can destroy everything else in your life, it likely won't stop you from being financially successful and that's the only measure of success anyone actually gives a fuck about, it seems.
You can't be financially successful if destroying everything else left you with mental health issues that prevent you from working. A work addict can keep on for a while but they'll crash.
I had a boss like this once! Fucker pushed for overtime every night, argued against taking vacation, and would bitch people out for taking sick days, calling anyone who took time off lazy.
Turned out he fucking despised his wife, but didn't want to go through the "shame of divorce"(his words, after she kicked off the divorce).
Hope that dude stubs his toes every morning.
I’ve definitely noticed a correlation of people “married to the job” because they don’t like the person they’re legally married to at home. It seemed to lead to a spike in divorces when the lockdowns hit during COVID.
Or they dislike someone else in the home. I definitely had people who loved their spouse, but hated actually having to take care of their kids, so they took tons of OT in order to minimize interacting with them at all.
I'm unemployed and my wife works from home 3 days a week. Seems like most weeks she makes an excuse to her boss to work at home the remaining days. I need my alone time, and I made that clear very early in our courtship. Just got in a blowout fight last week over it. My fault as I held my resentment in and blew, but I can't broach the issue without her feeling rejected. I know because I've tried in the past.
I was in a similar situation at my first job, except my boss didn't have a wife and instead lived right across the street from the office. He would say things like "We don't have a clock-in and clock-out attitude here". Or one time he kicked off a project where he divided up groups of people and wanted them to start brainstorming ideas for an app we could implement with our product. Except he specifically said we couldn't work on it during work hours. So guess what, nobody worked on it and Mr boss man was very disappointed in all of us. I'm so glad I don't work there anymore.
The places to watch out for are the ones who have “unlimited” vacation time. That actually means “ooh, now’s really not a good time…”
I think there was a company (might have been Virgin?) that did unlimited holiday, but the issue was that people ended up feeling ashamed for taking holiday and so basically ended up taking less than if they were given 25 days holiday.
We have unlimited time off and they have started adding more company vacation days because they're worried we aren't taking enough time off.
Yep, exactly
My last contract had that and the first year I barely used 2 weeks. My regional manager started giving us heads up during contract negotiation time that we might not get it. Ended up taking 3 weeks that he approved and felt so good to actually use the benefits that were promised. He was going to retire soon anyways, so he was approving left and right.
Ended up get hired back at the same place under a different company, and now our PTO and vacation is horseshit
My company is pretty lax, where I live you're entitled to 20 days paid leave by law but a contractor in my team had unlimited leave and made good use of it, she would travel pretty frequently, but she would still meet all her deadlines so management were fine with it
I generally agree with you but my last two jobs transitioned to unlimited while I was there and the amount of time I took off was not impacted at either. Both of these jobs were client focused billable time types of jobs so I do think that has something to do with it, as long as I'm hitting my billable targets and contribution goals they don't care how much time I have off really. I once took December off at the end of a super busy year.
If you set a minimum vacation time, it's not bad. But most places don't do that, because they know you'll take less time if they say unlimited.
Even though I live what I do, getting paid is literally the only reason I go to work. If they did not pay me, I would not go.
I'm pretty sure this person is joking.
we live in an age where almost all satire has happened at least 10 times
I'm sure they are, but I have had bosses who think this way.
I love my field, I hate the majority of jobs in my field because while tech can do many cool and wonderful things and could be solving many more issue, most companies are busy doing what one percenters want and pushing for the least effort solutions and everything is always a cram. No breathing space, no time to enjoy the product and reflect on what to do next. Just cram, enshittify, add tracking, automate away your peers, do more with less people so we can fire more people.
I'm so sick of the efficiency rat race that capitalist investors demand.
The really weird thing at that is that the efficiency that is demanded from the lower levels is squandered by the higher ones.
I'm working for a large corporation, and while I'm doing my job quite well (at least I think am), my work is useless. On the one hand, management constantly pivots. Today feature X is super important. Let's invest multiple millions and crunch time to get this done as fast as possible. It's almost done now, so now it turns out it's really not important any more. Shelve it for a few months or years and do something else instead that's super important until we don't care about it any more.
But not only is the work useless because "agile means upper management can change their mind twice daily", but the thing I'm working on is a marketing app that nobody wants anyway. People just use it because they get some small discounts, but really nobody has an actual benefit of the app itself.
You could probably close down the whole marketing department of the corporation and nobody would notice an actual difference.
The same holds true for most corporate jobs. It's so much politics and so much thinking firmly inside my own little drawer that there's really no point to all of that.
And with all of that waste happening, it's really ridiculous that anyone in upper management even dares to utter the term "efficiency", let alone pressures employees into anything for the purpose of efficiency.
I love my job. I really do. I also love other things more. It’s not rocket surgery.
"Rocket surgery"... I like it, I'm changing to this too!
You get 28 days plus bank holidays by law though
Not plus unfortunately as they can include the bank holidays in your statutory 28 days
Bank holidays
Bank or public holidays do not have to be given as paid leave.
An employer can choose to include bank holidays as part of a worker’s statutory annual leave.
Ah yeah, I should have known that having worked hospitality most of my life lol
American here.
We get less than that. And we got a LOT of small business owners who are pissed that they have to honor that. And like the meme, showcase it like it was a PRIVILEGE for working there.
This is all dependent on where you live. Many states don’t have any requirements. If the state focuses on its at-will status, you can bet leave or possibly even breaks is not a guarantee.
Yeah, time off varies quite a bit my company, though most seem to give at least 2 weeks of leave, often with no distinction between sick leave and vacation. I get 3 weeks + 2 days (and 11 fixed holidays), and I'm about to get 4 weeks + 2 days, and that's considered "good" by American standards.
American here. Starting January 1st i will be getting 2 weeks paid vacation each year plus major holidays. That's more paid vacation time than i have ever had in 10 years of working.
My last job gave me so much PTO I never bothered learning how it accrued. I'd often take 3 Fridays off a month.
My dad was a VP in an engineering firm (1980s). He got two weeks a year, that's it.
so much envy. here in california, you get three sick days. that's it. no vacation, no holidays. i don't think i've ever had a job willingly give me more, though i know such jobs do exist.
Your salary has been made available in your corporate account, but why would you want to use it all and deprive your employer of the extra security a cash reserve brings? Work well done should be its own reward after all. A shareholder cries every time you make a withdrawal.
A shareholder cries every time you make a withdrawal.
Really? If I withdraw my paycheck cent by cent, can I mummify one by proxy?
If you really enjoy spaghetti & meatballs, why would you ever want to eat anything else?
This is precisely why "unlimited" PTO is a fucking scam. When it's a set amount in writing as part of your compensation package, they're literally committing a crime if they never let you take it. If it's more nebulously worded, it's easier to blame the demands of the job, as though those aren't defined by the same people jerking you around on benefits. And they have proven time and time again that they will take everything from you if given the chance.
While you are correct, the actual reason this started is much simpler.
CA has a law that all unused vacation must be paid out at separation. All the silicon valley CEOs loophole this law by claiming unlimited PTO, therefore no payout because nothing is accrued.
In my country, if you offer unlimited PTO, and there's seperation, you will have to pay out what was contracted: Unlimited PTO. I guess, in most cases that would be interpreted as 365 days a year
Hence, nobody is dumb enough to offer unlimited PTO.
That depends on the local laws in place. For example, under the Working Time Regulations 1998 (in the UK), the firm is legally required to ensure all workers take their statutory days off. "Unlimited PTO" doesn't mean anything because it's a legal requirement that the workers take those days. You have a bit of say on when the worker takes those days, but you risk the HMRC coming after you if your workers don't take their holiday.
Soooo no, in some countries Unlimited PTO is a bit less of a scam, because you still get your statutory holiday anyway, so anything after that is a bonus.
There was once a QA tester in my last job that had to be taken aside by a manager at the end of the year and told "You haven't been taking any leave this year. You will use those days you've accrued before the end of the year or both you and I are in big trouble. This is not a request, you are going on holiday!"
I have an idea! Co-operatives, taxed automation, total freedom! Fuck work! Fuck all work! Most of us had enough of it for a lifetime. Even if you believe in working hard and earning your keep, the real issue is, you don't actually get to enjoy much of the results! You waste time you could have spent helping others, getting fit, developing your skillsets and hobbies! Living life! Experiencing things!
I've always thought the idea of a neighborhood working together would do wonders. "John down the street loves cars so if u need a fix go see him, oh and this weekend we're all helping roof his house cuz he helps us with cars and Hank across the street is gonna grill burgers for us" etc etc stuff like that.
People with all the equity thinking that they don't need to share to get people to take ownership of work
what a fucking cunt oh it is satire
This is crazy. Next thing you're going to tell me the employees actually keep their full salaries for themselves and don't give you back most of it?
Amateurs! Good employees immediately deposit 2/3rds of their monthly income into their landlord's account and try to hold on to the final 3rd for dear life for a full month, only to fail two weeks in.
I pay them every month but instead of keeping their salaries, they spend it all! Meaning I have to keep paying them! Absurd.
There are people who can work without any time off. Met some in academia: total freaks who only need a lab and like-minded individuals.
If you are going to steal the value I create why would I would harder then necessary for you to get richer through my exploitation.
As much as I love my job, I love doing jack fucking shit nothing even more. Damn skippy I'm using all my vacation hours (especially since I now know that they expire when the year flips and I don't get to just accumulate them for when I actually want to use them).
I can make this fool stroke out in one word:
"Paid?"
Oh simple answer Mr. Super CEO; because no matter how you dress it up, the bottom line is NO, people do NOT love their jobs. Shockingly, people do not derive joy from using their effort to benefit someone else, in this case YOU.
The thing is, I actually do like my job, but I like doing other things too. If I didn't have to work, I would probably do something like what I do at work anyway, just not as much of it (probably like 2 hours/day?).
That said, I absolutely take all of my time off. Sometimes I do work-like things on my leave (personal projects), but I will take all of my time off.
Loved my job before last. Some mornings I'd pop out of bed with a new idea I wanted to try, couldn't wait to get to the office. Some nights I'd work on my home lab, testing ideas for work and learning for my own benefit.
But you damned straight I took my PTO. In fact, one of the two reasons I quit was being denied a single day of PTO. First time they had shot me down, unwise as I was the entire IT department.
"If you really enjoy accruing my capital as a wage slave, why would you want time away from it?"
Look Mr "Super CEO" you're loving your job because you had an idea, took the risk, and through a mixture of good execution and luck-based-timing and/or access to external financial help succeeded.
Congratulations, you're one of the lucky few who managed to earn good money from their obsession. Seriously well done.
Your employees are not that. They're there to collect a salary and paid time off in exchange for their labour under the veiled threat of financial (and possibly medical) ruin if they don't.
The paid time off is necessary so they don't go mad from sacrificing a third of their life doing unfulfilling tasks 80% of the time (if they're lucky).
"Well if they aren't as obsessed as I am about this job, why don't they leave and start their own thing?"
Because:
Get your head out of your reality-shielding arse and stop inhaling your own hot gasses.
Don't know why names are erased from public posts?
I view it kinda differently because that public post is still there (with the creators consent), and you can naturally run into it if you're a member or interacting with that group. However, this is a re-post and specifically a group targeting them as negative which can lead to brigading.
I definitely understand public is public, I think it's more of an ethics/moral choice where anyone wanting to harass the user would have to take extra steps since the information wasn't provided by this platform.
Leaders that don't take leave is a common warning side of fraud happening.
I have a ton of days off I could technically take but I just save them for disasters and no one questions it when I can’t come in.
Congratulations, you are in this post.
I absolutely am. If I didn’t like my job I wouldn’t tolerate it.
i once did my work properly and went over and beyond in my care to do my job right. It was meant as a benefit but now my boss sees my effort as a right.
The only one yes
This person sounds floridly out-of-touch.
^ This person sounds like their satire detector is busted.
Big punch energy
A benefit you don't use isn't actually a ... Benefit, is it?
Most of y'all's inability to detect satire and sarcasm make me wonder if you're even more autistic than you claim.
Part of the humor is pushing barely over the top, not being so blatant it's silly.
I’d say in this environment, it’s no longer satire. Even the Onion is having trouble with articles because of how bad it is. Look at the responses and you’ll see people are encountering this exact issue in a very non-satirical way. Hell, in the US, you’re lucky to get 10 days off, let alone 28, and in some cases that’s not even mandated.
We offered the CEO $550 million as a benefit. A gesture. A show of vision only a Super Board can have.
Instead, they treat it like a right. Like pay is something they're owed.
Some cash those checks. Some have it direct deposited. Different labels, same result, money leaves the company.
And that's when it hit me. If you really enjoy your job, why would you ever want to be paid for it?
Or am I the only one who sees it this way?