Pope says 'backward' US conservatives replaced faith with ideology

Now the pos conservatives are gonna start calling the pope woke. 🤣🤣🤣

These christians will drop their Pope before they drop their politics

Pope Francis is completely right.

Religion is the biggest scourge against humans. Controlling behavior, brainwashing the young and stolen untold trillions of $$. Fuck religion. They all need to be labeled as cults and treated as harshly.

first Jesus, now the pope is woke? At what point do I start considering that maybe I'm actually the asshole here?

I have found this to be true. The current pope is doing a lot of work to bring Catholicism into the modern age. Starting with acknowledging and addressing in material ways the history of abuse.

There is going to be , or should be , a full on schism in the US church. The parishioners I practice with are more for the Republican Party than for the pope. They basically are waiting for him to die and ignoring doctrine that does not match ‘how it used to be’ Ya know with all of the sexual abuse and bigotry.

The pope ain't perfect. But goddamn do I love him stripping corrupt officials of their position, being much more chill towards my queer brothers and sisters worldwide, and telling the US arm to remove the giant sticks from their ass over abortion and divorce.

I hope he lives till 130 and keeps being a stabilizing force for good. It's a rarity to see religious officials who are not only reasonable, but actively trying to make the world a slightly better place.

New Pope diss track just dropped.

This is the fruits of the GOP strategy that's been going on for decades to strengthen their support through Christian believers. The Pope is just recognizing the impact of that from the religious side, whereas Barry Goldwater warned of it's impact from the political side.

Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.

It certainly is a terrible damn problem, and we're knee deep in the shit right now.

Pot meet kettle

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Being called "backwards" by the head of the catholic church is quite something

Pretty sure it was a Roman Catholic priest that burned all the Mayan texts. The Roman Catholic Church is the largest destroyer and oppressor that ever existed.

Broken clock right twice a day, etc.

Pope Francis has blasted the “backwardness” of some conservatives

Media needs to find another word for speaking up in opposition to something.

Pope is 100% correct on this one. But on terrorist state ruzzia, he misses the mark by a mile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirI4eSTNag

It's organized crime and mob taking over America. And they are already in...

and that a correct understanding of Catholic doctrine allows for change over time.

Isn't god supposed to be unchanging according to their book?

I mean he's right, but maybe he wants to add his institution to that list as well.

Fuckin hell America, you annoyed the fuckin Pope?

That's usually reserved for genocidal maniacs 😂

I mean the church caused a lot of this.

Religion in general is pretty backwards as well.

Didn’t this guy pay a personal visit to the christofascist who refused to grant a gay marriage license September 2015? Guy wore a similar hat anyway.

Those are the same people who called Jesus weak so I think it's a bit late for the pope to weigh in

Has he met the Catholic Church?

Inquisitions? Witch burning? Who does he think did extremism biggest and best?

Sure, now they mostly just coverup for paedophiles and rampant baby murder at orphanages, but they were the OG extremists, let’s not kid ourselves.

Note that he said this in a private conversation, not an official statement.

He will backtrack on this in less than a week, he always does this little dance.

Wake me up when Catholics aren't forced-birth advocates that will vote in any fascist that aligns with their single issue.

Replacing faith with ideology - so doing things because you think they are right is worse than doing them because god tells you to?

Change over time? What, we getting new words from God? Gonna add a newer testament?

So I think that by-and-large, the Evangelicals have had a crisis of faith and are seeking the US Catholic Church as a bastion of stability. And the US Catholic Church has been happy to accept Evangelicals into our flock, because we're all Christian here and spreading our religion is what we do.

This has become somewhat of a devil's deal however, as the Evangelicals have pushed the Church extremely rightward politically. Historically, the Catholic Church has been very pro-Latino, because the Hispanic community / immigrants are overwhelmingly Catholic (not just "Christian", but proper Catholics born and raised). But in the past 10 years or so I'm seeing more and more former-Evangelicals bring their politics into the Catholic tradition.

Nominally, this crap shouldn't matter to the issues of Church. But it does. Politics infects all wakes of life one way or the other.

In any case, I think its a good thing that (former) Evangelicals have migrated over to the Catholic church in such large numbers that this problem is occurring. And I'm not necessarily saying that we need to 'indoctrinate' our (former) Evangelicals to the policies or politics of the Catholics... but... maybe a little bit? I dunno. But a lot of these far-right rhetoric / fire and brimstone style religion (with anti-immigration / anti-Hispanic slants) is distinctly non-Catholic and heretical IMO.

Case in point: we Catholics finally have a 2nd president of our Faith: Joe Biden. And yet, the Catholic community was THIS close to excommunicating him. Rather than celebrate our achievement to get our 2nd president into the office, he is seen as a heretic to (half) of the US Catholic Community.

The Pope is late to the show.

How did sevitavresnoc SU-s replace faith with ideology? I've never even heard of that group before

If bigotry is not allowed why do we get news from the ceo of bigots reaching top posts?

How long before the pope accidentally falls out of a window and a new American pope is called?

Yeah... they are "right" but almost assuredly for the wrong reasons.

catholicism is pretty much the blueprint for what right wing assholes are doing with "evangelicals". Batshit insane extremists who want to control as many governments (and armies) as possible.

So if the catholic church is complaining? That just means someone isn't kissing the ring (or the Prince Albert, if you are a little boy).

Right wing fascists are fucking insane and going to be the death of the world. But this really doesn't mean shit

Maybe they ran out of children to fuck?

So apparently bears no longer shit in the woods.

I mean, he's right.

I think the wedding of capitalism and religion is an unholy one. As soon as people get tax breaks and shit for religion it becomes a scam fest.

John brown used religion to justify blasting some slavers at harper's ferry and I can't think we don't need more of that good spice today.

There are certain people that need some kind of easing of burden that religion can bring, but prosperity gospel and similar are essentially a type of necromancy where you steal as much power as you can from living humans to power your divine money machine.

The Catholic Church has actively ran the longest largest worldwide Pedophile ring in human history. For the past 1800 years the Catholic Church recruited, supported, obfuscated, defended, and excused pedophilia, which continues to this day. The fact the Catholic Church still allowed to operate, in any way shape or form, with youth of any kind, in any country, anywhere, means we've all purposefully lost the thread.

Beside the Catholic Church being outwardly obviously criminal, and only an extension of the Roman Senate two thousand years on, it's only shown how very little adults care about the systematic raping of children. Like, at all.

Fuck The Catholic Church. Fuck The Pope.

Pope Francis is my boy

Both parties are completely bed with and owned by corporations and they don't give a fuck about regular people. That's the actual problem with them.

This is why I differentiate between Christians and Xtians

Yeah, like 70 years ago.

Honestly this is more a sign that americans culture is getting more rothen, just straight up, censorship is gaining a very real foot (in both sides) and its been working its way to make the religious nuts into full on nuts, and while they probably have been this way since the begining, religion kinda limited their madness by scaring them into believing they where gona go to hell if they didnt behave, but their bipartisan bullshit managed to replace religion in their minds and Just make them dance to wathever bullshit their favorite politician spews out this week.

And the left is no better, you guys used to promote anti-hate and freedom of speech, but now, What the hell happened to you? their head is so up their own assess that they became what they sought out to destroy, instead of promoting sane discussion they relegated into bipartisan tribalism and started censoring people they didnt agree with, even going as far as to defend the democratic party, even if their interests are as against the general population as the republicans, but since they where the ones that supposedly didn't want to oppress social groups (even if they totally still fucking do just look at the fucking border ffs) they are right and everything they spew out is right, and while trying to make a safe space online, in academia, and in political discourse, is just naive, promoting respectful language and tolerance to diferent social groups is not a bad thing, but the way they handle it is the definition of "the road to hell is paved with good intentions", specially in media.

They ended up making bipartisan hate grow into the other side on top of the hate they already had, and politicians (democrats and republicans ) took full advantage of this and we have what we have now in the political big picture.

American politics is just a fucking reality show now and I believe they deserve it, only problem is they take the rest of the world between their crotch and fuck us all up since they rule the world/economy. I really hope those guys wake up from their bipartisan bitch slapping nightmare and start fighting the real war which is the class war. Against, you know, the only assholes that get benefited by you too infighting.

Anyhow rant over, down votes to the right. But whrite a comment first, i really whant to hear why you disagree.

Says man who leads an organization that hasn't changed in 2000 years.

You know you're screwed up when a kiddie fucker calls you backward.

> a correct understanding of Catholic doctrine allows for change over time

> dogma : a fixed, especially religious, belief or set of beliefs that people are expected to accept without any doubts

looks like Francis is wrong, and not a Catholic nor a pope

Didn't he start supporting gay marriage because that's the Current Thing position now?

He's got some balls to accuse other people of replacing faith with ideology.

Like I give two shits what some child rapist thinks