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He voted for Trump. Now his wife sits in an ICE detention center.

Summary

Wisconsin resident Bradley Bartell voted for Trump's promise to crack down on "criminal illegal immigrants," but now his Peruvian wife Camila Muñoz has been detained by ICE.

Muñoz, from Peru, overstayed her visa but had applied for legal residency. On their way home from a honeymoon, immigration agents detained her at a Puerto Rico airport.

Despite no criminal record, she remains in a Louisiana detention center. Her case reflects ICE’s broadened enforcement that now includes documented immigrants.

Bartell, once supportive of stricter immigration policies, now questions the impact on families like his own.

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  • These clowns always pull up the ladder after they "get theirs." Marry an immigrant and think you're safe? Vote to get rid of the ones you don't like via a Dictator. Dictators turn on their supporters sooner or later, for them it was sooner. Wait until he comes for the guns. He's the only president that has said guns should be taken away.

    E: Getting lots of gateway timeouts for .world, anyone else? I'm in the US.

  • Hold the fuck up, she was already OVERSTAYING her Visa and these idiots thought it was a good idea to TRAVEL? Nah they both got what they fucking deserved. It doesn't matter that you're awaiting your residency application, you have already passed your exit date, why the fuck would you be traveling for your honeymoon

    Edit: I'm literally standing in the airport awaiting my fiance's return from Mexico right now, this shit makes all the people who actually read their paperwork and follow the rules, look bad when they get lumped in with these idiots.

    • Apparently she got stuck in the States when all the borders were closed during the pandemic, which seems pretty reasonable grounds for overstaying.

      But - she didn't leave when the borders re-opened. She had fallen in love and at some point she filed paperwork to normalize her status - though they're pretty coy about when they filled the papers, so I suspect that was done after the borders re-opened and she should have left.

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      I'm also going to point out what I haven't seen in any of the comments so far which is that, with ICE being pressured to increase the number of deportations, they're opting to go for low-hanging fruit. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean raiding places that they've known for decades are hiring illegal immigrants, arresting and prosecuting and imprisoning the owners and managers.

      It does mean that they're hanging out at at least some airports, and it sounds like they're running passenger lists ahead of time (because they knew exactly who to approach). I mean, why to go the trouble of driving out to some farm or factory in the middle of nowhere, trying to chase down people who know the area better than you ever will, when you can sit at a comfy air-conditioned desk and only bother to get up when the computer lets you know that your "target" is trying to check in for their flight?

      • Agree completely, and to me when people like these two decide to do whatever they want because their love is "special", it shows ICE that hey, this is way easier and they'll focus more on these situations. This puts all the completely legal and above board immigrants in danger now.

    • Nobody deserves to be punished for arbitrary political boundaries.

      That being said, it's satisfying to see the people supporting those boundaries get punished by them.

      • I agree, but she and anyone else in her position have SIGNED paperwork in agreement with the terms that by X date you will leave the country. What the fuck else are we supposed to do if we just shrug and say oh well it's just a date. These two were blatantly attempting to trounce the laws and just do whatever they wanted.

    • Being in an international relationship, I'm sure you understand how tricky and stressful some of these paperwork matters can be. Just deciding what type of visa to apply for when you are in a relationship can be taxing.

      You are right that for the majority of people, the bureaucracy works as long as you file things correctly. They should have done it right from the start. But there are a lot of personal situations that can complicate it.

      As an aside, it is mind boggling to me the number of immigrants who wholeheartedly support Trump, even with family ties that are endangered by his actions.

      • Warning, essay.

        Many many reasons for the immigrants who support him all of them bad reasons obviously.

        -White-Passing Hispanics, especially CDMX, Monterey within Mexico and outside, Argentina, Colombia, Brazil (obv. not the darker skinned Brazilians) etc. that can be seen by whites as "the good ones", and by the Hispanics themselves. These people, the ones who make a point to embrace the "whiteness" of their bloodline, allowing them to identify more with their European colonizers rather than the darker skinned natives, or even Mestizos (mixed race, though at this point most people are decedents of decedents of decedents of the original Mestizos). Their tie to that European "whiteness" somehow makes them better than those darker than themselves.

        -Machismo culture being deeply ingrained in many families causing them to "admire" a "strong" man. Not a single macho man is actually macho (except for Macho Man) under Machismo, it is a warped idea of what constitutes macho that idolizes the men and puts them up front as the default lead of any situation especially family just because they are male.

        -There is unfortunately, a STRONG sense of "I got mine" or pulling the ladder up behind you among many many immigrants, Hispanic or otherwise. This goes along with the sense of "well we did it so it can't be that hard", they fail to realize that yes, it may have been easy for you but for others it is not.

        -Last I can think of, the kids and grand-kids of immigrants. Many did not get taught about the struggles of their ancestors, or were taught and don't care, sometimes you just get a bad egg kids who doesn't give a shit about his heritage. Sometimes this comes from their feeling like an "other" when living in an area with a Hispanic minority. This can cause them to seek out belonging and feel resentment to their ancestors and heritage for bringing them there, for making them into a minority and grow some unhealthy selfhate, and then falling in with like minds who also hate the "others" making them into "one of the good ones." (ive types this term too many times today)

    • Exactly. Did my dude think he could Karen his way through Customs? Papers have to be in order with Biden or Trump, now it’s worse though because they detain your ass.

  • The money the couple saved for a down payment on a home has evaporated into attorneys fees and savings to pay a bond for her release, if she's given that chance.

    There's a silver lining to this. Think about all the high quality white collar jobs (lawyers) that this is supporting. Way to stimulate the economy, Trumpers! /s

  • These shithead said out loud what they would do - so he is mad because he voted for what trump said he would do. What a dipshit. Sorry, you don't get s Oops this time.

  • ICE is under extreme pressure from the White House to ramp up enforcement. Top ICE officials, including the newly installed acting director, were re-assigned within weeks of Trump taking office, allegedly over frustrations that detentions and deportations weren't rising fast enough.

    I think this is really the main cause. Trump envisioned that once he took office, he would flush the millions of illegals who voted for Biden in 2020 like rats. (I picked that analogy on purpose, he thinks they're sub-human).

    The problem is that those people simply don't exist. They never tried to vote (because that is a sure ticket to getting kicked out permanently, after spending time in jail). But most immigrants that are easy to find are the legal kind.

    So, when ICE simply couldn't find the vermin in the numbers Trump wanted, he fired them all and put in new people willing to go farther. So now, any non-citizen is suspect (as well as citizens who don't "look like" citizens). This is going to continue to escalate. This will turn into a major diplomatic problem. Other countries will need to start denying automatic visas to US citizens. Trump won't pay attention until his Corporate masters yell at him for making it so they can't just jet off to Europe whenever they want.

    • he would flush the millions of illegals who voted for Biden in 2020 like rats. (I picked that analogy on purpose, he thinks they're sub-human).

      And that is the Nazi (and other authoritarian, not even just right fascists) talking point. The painting of a people as "Vermin", the villainization of a minority or even a majority or comparatively similar size group. The point is to gear your people to think deep down that the "others" are beneath them, beneath deserved respect, sub human scum that you shouldn't be worried about what happens to them.

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