3w ago

A man can dream

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- That's much better.
- Needs Colorado on there somewhere too. That place is a blue oasis surrounded by a sea of red bullshit states on all sides.
  
  They elected Hoedirt Boebert... no entry.
  
  And New Mexico! Please don't leave us with those shitheads.
  
  Not to the south, NM is just as blue if not more so.
  
  I propose we get CO and they can have WI, MI and PA
- Hey take some cities as enclaves too. Blue cities in red states don't deserve that kind of punishment.
  
  What about the liberals in conservative areas? We all gonna hold off because they're gonna get eaten by the dogs, too? What about liberal kids of conservative parents?
- I think the red area should get alberta, maybe saskatchewan too. And I would personally like to see the Alaska pan handle transferred to B.C.
- Realistically this wouldn't be possible, at least in the way most people assume. It's hard for people to just uproot their whole lives and move to another state (though it's easier these days), a partition like this would mean leaving behind a lot of liberal minded people, who are too poor or too rooted in a place.
  
  On a family zoom call we were comparing house moves. My bro had the record at like 51 times he moved his house. One year he moved to Manhattan, then to Harlem, then to London.
  It's not hard, but it can be complex.
  
  Eggs and omelettes.
- Alaska would join Canada at this point I bet.
- I'm sure the sane people in those new Canadian provinces would want universal healthcare, but would they be willing to give up their guns? I think most of Canada is appalled at the gun violence in the US and would make giving up guns an unconditional requirement of joining Canada.
  
  Deaths by firearm, per 100,000 people, are about 1/7 the number in Canada as it is in America.
  America has over 200 school shootings a year. 2024 saw a near record with 330 school shootings.
  Canada? 6 in its entire history. To get to the grand total of 9, you would have to include post-secondary institutions.
  If you truly want to “think about the children”, firearm control comes wwwaaaaaaayyyyy before banning books and taking away lunches.
- Illinois can stay.
  
  What? No!
  Okay, maybe everything more than 60 miles outside of Chicago can stay. Deal?
  
  Fip off fips
- Considering them petitioning to leave Oregon, I feel like eastern Oregon would be very upset about this

Imagine.
Donald declares war on Canada.
Straight away all those states secede from the union and declare independence (States rights!)
Canada claims them all as allies.
TACO bell end Trump backs down.
States join Canada.
- Donald declares war on Canada.

Minnesota is a solid blue state that deserves to join Canada as well
- We've already petitioned Canada about adopting us since Trump was elected, and they responded positively! They consider us their favorite neighbor of all the border states. 🥰
  Granted, it was a joke in response to Trump's tariffs, but still... (Source)
  
  You gotta out compete Vermont and Maine for that title. A solid 1/3 of homes I drove by had Canadian flags out in VT.
- The Michigan/mid-west accent is straight up the stereotypical Canadian accent lol.
  
  Sure, bud.

ain't no fucking way your carving that out and leaving Minnesota behind, we've been basically Canada for hundreds of years
- Getting California would make Canada shift in identity.
  Getting Minnesota would honestly make us even more Canadian.

As a Canadian, no thank you. California and New York would swallow us and we'd become "liberal United States"
- What about Alaska then? Or Minnesota?
- Hey you could always move to Texas and enjoy a conservative life. Too hot? Alaska then.
  
  I have a problem with the “United States” part not the “liberal” part
- Considering how much of Canada is inhospitable, that math seems generous — not even bringing up Texas, Alaska, etc. 👀
- Then California goes to Mexico.

Listen, you just want to annex lake Michigan and take Chicago as a part of the bundle, I won't argue. Because at this point I'm begging
- please take all of Michigan. Please please please.
  
  Best we can do is Yoop....
- In fairness there's a bunch of our homies left out. Maine, Vermont, Minnesota, NY, on and on. Leave America the scraps.
  
  Maintenance Vermont and NY are all on the map as having been annexed. But also, I think realistically, California could probably sustain itself for a good long while. It might be better off as trade partners than as a province of Canada.

- Now we just need to link up with Canada to create a weird map avocado with a 'Murican pit.
  
  Add in Washington state.

Except this is also how the "democracy" that is modern day Russia was created. Everything that's happened in the U.S. since ~2012 that has been driving us to the brink of collapse by furthering the divide between left and right has been eerily similar.
Psychological Inoculation and Astroturfing: Preparing for exploitation of U.S. secession movements
A lot of people don't know this, bc it's not exactly clear what they were doing there, but coincidentally the Heritage Foundation also seemed to play a role in the creation of the first free market in the earliest days of post-soviet Russia.
- thank you for not giving in to their rhetoric and letting this point die.
  i get endless downvotes on all social media anytime i say a civil war is the absolute fucking worst outcome of any of the current trends.
  guess people are just out for blood rn. i wouldn’t make it sound so innocent, tho. why are people out for blood? lots of answers, none satisfying enough.
  
  Take an up vote from me. Civil wars nearly always end in tragedy beyond the imaginations of those who start them.
  
  I believe the most obvious is they benefit (or at least believe they will benefit) from that outcome.
- The Heritage Foundation is a society of monarchists. It's supported by oligarchs who want to be king to push the world towards that agenda, and such oligarchs routinely infuse it with capital.
- …furthering the divide between right and extreme right has been eerily similar.
  Fixed that for you.

Do all the 19 year old Michiganders who drive to Toronto to drink mean nothing to you?

Why do we need counties at all? Why do we even draw borders to begin with?
- Humans haven't figured out how to live without laws yet. If you have laws, you have a region where those laws apply. Voila, countries.
- Administration is hard
- Imagine
  
  Beat me to it. 😉

There, FTFY
- FTFY

Feel real bad for Illinois, Virginia, Colorado and New Mexico citizens.
And all the Democrats in the red states of course.

I don't wanna be left behind in the failed states. But otherwise I approve of this message.

Chicagoan here; can we be a Canadian exclave? Please?
- There's a joke in there somewhere about "enclave" and The Bean... but I'm already imagining the band behind that name and what they play.
  
  The fucking Bean lol. Nobody here takes that stupid thing seriously. If you want good art go find the Picasso.

Don't forget Hawaii & Alaska & Puerto Rico & ...
- Really, the response to Trump's BS about Canada becoming a state should be: "Shouldn't you sort out Puerto Rico and your other territories first?"
  
  As if he has the capacity for reason, ha. 🤢

eric andre grabbing at the fence shouting to be let in

No, I dont like it .... my state should be Canadian as well.

You know tbh I'm surprising TACO McDumbass hasn't thought about selling our country yet...
Imagine the cash you'd get for this whole place, fuck!

Minnesota is ready for you too

I hate memes like this. Just fucking abandon people living in red states I guess. Just abandon purple states like my state. Fuck you too. If I could "just move" I would've.
- People in red and purple states used their collective voting power to bring whatever is happening. You abandoned everyone by doing whatever you were doing when there was the time to do democratic choice, that was the time for righteous anger. Now it's too late.
  
  What a fucking ignorant thing to say. Fuck you. Because I live in the same state as a bunch of bigots you're saying I should suffer? "That was the time for righteous anger"? I've been righteously angry for over a fucking decade. Seriously. Fuck. You. Fuck you for saying this stupid, ignorant bullshit. Fuck you on behalf of every trans person born into a red state facing discrimination, harassment, assault, and murder. Fuck you on behalf of every queer person forced to go to conversion therapy because they're born to conservative parents in a red state. Fuck you.
  
  You really should be ashamed of yourself for slinging this bullshit talking point around. Do you even realize how politically, culturally and ethnically diverse the South is? Houston is already one of the most diverse and progressive cities in the country. People are out there fighting not just a Fascist Federal govt, but also a Fascist State govt. Do you see them running or crying online? What have you done? You cant even stand with your supposed fellow countrymen because you are a coward through and through and want to draw lines on a map to make yourself feel better.
  
  Oh man, you've never heard of gerrymandering, have you...
  
  I'm trying to understand this point. I'm in a purple state. By definition, that means that we're on the cusp of being either democratic EC votes or republican EC votes, as well as senators, governors and other state-level offices.
  One of the (minor, but still there) reasons I haven't moved is because my vote actually matters here. If I moved to a solidly blue state, I would be removing a blue vote and making my current state more red.
  One of my largest fears is that we continue sorting all the democratic voters into a small handful of blue states and lock in a permanent minority in government due to how we allocate EC votes and allot power in the Senate.
  If anything, we need the people in deeply blue states to migrate out into other places and help push our country towards actual balance. If we took 2% of the 2024 democratic Californians (9m Kamala votes vs 6m Trump, 2% of the 9m is 180k, and we could easily do this several more times) and they moved to a low-population red state like Wyoming, Montana or North Dakota (spot checking 2024 vote counts), they would have no EC impact in California, but would have guaranteed Senate seats and EC votes. They would also have huge power in their new local and state government, since the total republican vote count majority was less than that tiny portion of California.
  I know this is a simplistic way of looking at the numbers and not the humans, but blaming someone in a red/purple state for staying there is just not helping.

Canada would then be more US than Canadian at that point. US + Canada should keep United States of America name. The question is then what to call the other country. Kingdom of Christ? The 1950s?

Please take NYC and Chicago as well
- Did you not look at the map?
  
  Our public education does not allow us to look at maps outside of America. This shape is strange and terrifying to me.

Just split it up, no country should be bigger than something between Hungary and Germany.
- Keep in mind, much of that space is uninhabited wilderness, or very sparsely spread rural communities.
  A lot of them are indigenous communities too which are usually very poor sadly.
  
  Then those areas shouldn't belong to any country.
- By population or land area?
  
  Land area.

I’m thankful they included my state of Nevada!

Can Illinois come with? Chicago is pretty cool and we have some nice state parks!

United States of the Gulf of Mexico

Ewwwwww, Canadians should stay up north and the US territories should be annexed by Mexico!
- At a minimum they should get Tejas back.

does this mean the map on the top is over 18 and the map on the bottom is under 18?
stop using this piece of shit as a meme

Wait, the president of the united states' actually "truthed" that?
Isn't like a declaration of war?
- Only congress can declare war.

Please take PA, please!!!
- lol it'll just be Philly surrounded by the Fascist Republic of Pennsyltucky, landlocked West Berlin style
  (though I suppose Philly does at least have ocean access via the Delaware)

please take Alaska. I promise we are not that republican
- I can be bribed into supporting that with king crab and salmon.
  
  We are almost out of that...

Uh wis, Minnesota and Michi need to added to Canada too.

As a michigander I do not approve 😭

Please don't forget about New Mexico

Awww please take PA too. Philly is cool.
- not with your ATV-redneck parties in the streets
  
  Redneck? Did I miss one? Thats not whos usually riding atvs and other weird fucking vehicles in Philly.

Fuck that, balkanize both

Some of us have had Cascadia dreams. The problem is that Canada has its own issues and is on the same oozing, shambling drift towards fascist autocracy.
But yeah, the problem is that the US is a big pastiche of purple, and we can't even tell how much of the red side is pressured by peer pressure and the colossal far-right-wing propaganda machine that features the most popular media offerings in the nation. Huge swaths of people are literally being mind controlled, and no-one is addressing this. (On a related note, we keep allowing more loopholes to allow gambling outside Nevada and Georgia, not to mention have failed to criminalize lootboxes)
The US isn't even trying to be democratic and hasn't for decades, which is how seventy seven million people, many of them low-information voters, voted for the guy who campaigned on a fascist autocratic coup d'etat.
That is to say once we finally unseat President Donald J. Trump, we should get ready for a Pete Townshend scream:
Meet the new boss!
\ Same as the old boss!

Take Colorado with you!

There is no way Canada is down for paying the health care costs of Californians, let alone the cost of defense from an American military.

Can we include a chunk of the east coast please

Why would you assume Nevada would want to secede?

I think my dream is more along the lines of the internationale, and many hanging with red necks.

amerikkka must be destroyed

You can't have California if you don't take Texas, what you do with it after the acquisition we don't care.
- Frankly, after finding out The Alamo doesn't have a basement, I was done with Texas.

I want less Americans in my country, not more
The only reason Maine gets a pass is because it was ours to begin with
- The 13 colonies were "ours" to begin with, back when "we" were the North American colonies of the British Empire.
- … you guys once marched to DC.
  Can you accept the other east coast states down thru (but excluding) Virginia? Thanks.

I think it's funny that y'all think California would bring you into their fold beyond being close allies. Canada is nothing compared to California in the grand scheme of things.

"Hey Canada we're a bunch of pussies that want to run away because fascism is taking over. How'd you like to team up with us while you also deal with fascism?"
Why wouldn't Canada just take these states for themselves and deport all the cowardly Americans? You guys aren't going to fight, you'll just run away to yet another country.
- Ahh take me, Canada-chan uwu~

It should be Canada and Mexico. Americans go in the sea and save this doomed world.

You know Canada isn't some paradise land either right? It is till a capitalist hell hole dedicated to profit at all costs, white supremacy and ecocide.
- Everywhere is dealing with all these same things. Some countries are even in an actual drone war over it.
  And the US are literally sending families to a death camp.
  Or how much they have to spend on prescriptions.
  Oh and how much more likely they’d be sued and lose their entire life savings as well as their entire family’s life savings over any car accident.
  Or how much they’d have to spend if an elderly loved one has to have any form of home care.
  Or that (any) politician actually have very little to do with how much house and egg inflations happen.
  Just Some of the things Canadians need to be reminded of while they exist in their little bubble lacking gratitude of being Canadian.

Reminds me of the people saying 'china please liberate occupied California, send 200 dong Feng missiles and build intercontinental high speed rail long live ccp'

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