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Trump Hints Another January 6 Could Happen If He Loses the Election

newrepublic.com Trump Hints Another January 6 Could Happen If He Loses the Election

The former president made multiple chilling warnings during an interview with Time magazine.

The former president made multiple chilling warnings during an interview with Time magazine.

Donald Trump hasn’t quite let go of the possibility of utilizing mob violence if he loses the next election.

In a sprawling interview for Time magazine, Trump hinted that leveraging political violence to achieve his end goals was still on the table.

“If we don’t win, you know, it depends,” he told Time. “It always depends on the fairness of the election.”

And from Trump’s perspective, that’s winning rhetoric. According to him, his incendiary comments supporting a mob mentality, his early warnings of forthcoming abuses of power, and his threats to be a dictator on “day one” are only inching him closer to the White House. “I think a lot of people like it,” Trump told Time.

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If the FEC had any fucking teeth they'd jail and disqualify him for that statement alone.
- They have teeth. But half of the people who decide whether or not they pursue charges against someone are republican appointees.
  So, you know… teeth, but corrupted leadership.
  
  They're the same picture

January 6th was a failed coup attempt.
How is saying you'll retry your failed coup attempt if you don't get your way something were allowing a presidential candidate to do?
- Because he "tells it like it is" or something. Idk. The kind of people still falling for his grift are too shameless to ever admit that they ever fell for his grift, so they're doubling down, succumbing to the sunk cost fallacy. They just stay in their echo chambers and saturate their awareness with weird culture war shit and then never hear about what's actually happening. Half of them probably don't even know that their guy is a defendant in criminal court this week. Willfully ignorant.
  
  No I'm fine with uneducated masses eating it up.
  I'm not okay with judges pulling out their dentures to slobber on trumps balls over matters that threaten the whole country instead of figuratively castrating him the moment he says shit like this.
- Because "not trying to overthrow the government due to losing an election" isn't listed in the Constitution as a requirement to be elected. One would think that's a pretty major oversight.
  
  It is but the Senate failed to do their job as usual and enforce it, thanks Mitch
  
  Except it literally is explicitly written into the constitution. 14th Amendment, Section 3.
  No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
  The major oversight is our massively and blatantly corrupt Supreme Court.
- We learned nothing from hitlers rise to power, obviously.
- wouldn't want this to appear politically motivated, now would we?
- Because 30% of the country actively want him to be our dictator.

I have strong doubts. The people most likely to "Jan 6" did. A number of them, particularly the mid-level leaders, that actually organized things, are in prison. They have not turned out in numbers since they started getting arrested.
- They got light sentences. And let's face it, the people that are going to organize yet another insurrection are going to be duped by the same logic that Trump will pardon them or that their acts are justified.
  Trump is threatening our democracy. Again.
  He's saying that if he doesn't win, there's going to be another insurrection.
  The sad reality is that over the last four years, fascist states have put laws into place that make it legal to overturn elections for little to no reason. No oversight.
  He won't need an insurrection because he has willing accomplices.
  
  They got light sentences.
  False. Some of the ones that took a plea deal got light sentences. They also can no longer vote.
  The ones that didn't take plea deals got sentences completely in line with the Federal Sentencing guidelines, because that is how our modern Federal courts work.
- Remember, the Beer Hall Putch failed. So we have nothing to worry about?
  
  Per the new rules in my state, all my history books have had the pages from 1924 to 1957 torn out. So I'm assuming this part of history was just woke and soy and therefore unimportant.
  
  No. Not my point at all.
- All it takes is just one person with a gun and a grudge to kill dozens.
  
  But that won't take them any closer to toppling the government. Jan. 6 could only happen because Trump actively prevented the police from doing their jobs. That won't happen under Biden.

Fucken Bolsonaro did the same shit and it’s looking like he’s actually gonna get prosecuted. Real shame the US government isn’t up to the high standards set by Brazil, but maybe we’ll get there someday!

How many more Babbits will trump create when he can't tell the capital police to stand down? Or even, how many of his idiot followers are even going to show up when they got fucked and abandoned last time?
You're a pathetic weakling Donnie, go sit the fuck down and pout to a judge.
- I have no sympathy for Babbitt. Suicide by cop as far as him concerned
- How many more Babbits will trump create when he can’t tell the capital police to stand down?
  Enough Ashley Babbits and its less of a problem for conservatives than for the police.

Oh, fuck off, the only reason it got that far on Jan 6 is that he was already in charge and refused to call in troops to immediately shut it down. I doubt Biden sits on his hands for several hours while rioters attack the Capitol.
- If Biden wins the election I can almost guarantee that there will be guards posted ahead of time.
  
  Even if he doesn't, he'll still be President on January 6th. I'd be surprised if he doesn't post guards either way.
- I don’t expect a storm on the capital, I expect something more localized.
- Don't forget they were specifically instructed to let the MAGAts run wild.
  Miller said Trump told him: "Do whatever is necessary to protect demonstrators that were executing their constitutionally protected rights."
  And trump's sycophant "acting directors" were in place to thwart any attempt at control of the drunken hick mob.
  https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/12/meadows-jan-6-national-guard-trump-524133

I know what the headline actually means but i'm choosing to believe that donny just found out about calendars.

So he is threatening to go full Mussolini then?
- Hopefully, he gets the full Mussolini treatment. They will have to find an Exxon station since Esso changed its name in the 70s.
  
  Well what’s important is that Mussolini eventually became a good fascist. I just wish he’d done it faster
  
  Skip straight to the head-kicking.
- Always has been
- More and more

These morons should be greeted by the National Guard
- Specifically flying elements of The Maryland Air National Guard's 175th wing based at Warfield Air National Guard Base.
  
  Agreed
- How many members of the National Guard are already MAGA Chuds?
  
  You're right, probably too many

The only reason it happened the first time is because he was able to allow it to happen... but he ain't the one in the oval office now.
- Right. Biden would have immediately deployed the national guard in response to a march on the Capitol. Trump intentionally did not, he encouraged the mob and then watched the whole thing unfold on television and didn't lift a finger.
  The next group of MAGA idiots who show up to pull a Jan 6 2.0 will get turned away by authorities actually equipped to handle them.

May the capital police show far less restraint if next time happens.

Oh? I thought Jan 6th was AntiFA?
By all means fuck around & find out. The Capitol police will have their submachine guns this time.
Not to mention the fact your supporters won't even show up to your trials after you abandoned them & stabbed them in the back last time, you wretched piece of shit.

He OBVIOUSLY learned his lesson Last Time!
- Someone go kick Susan Collins in the butt

Hints another Jan 6 could happen
Calls for violence if he loses election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_terrorism

Traitor

This is why we all should arm ourselves heavily. And be ready to fight back.
- When I worked for the country I found I'm a pretty decent shot with what you'd've called an m16a3 . I had a couple of really great shooty-powpow days.
  You know what I'd do if jan6 got crazy again?
  Continue to stay away. I have no business being there. I'm not some gung-ho halfwit, passable shot or no.
  
  The point isn't to go out, it's to have a shooty boi or two at home in case others decide to go out.
  
  if I were a Trumper trying to learn from Jan 6 the lesson I'd learn is that the mob was all in one place and disorganized, which made them easy to find and target, easy to defend against, and very susceptible to morale issues as soon as they got pushback (watch the Ashley Babbit video. As FA turns to FO, pay attention to the mood of the crowd. The fact is there were enough of them close enough that they could have easily overwhelmed the lone guard, but when they realized that this was real life where people who get shot die they lost any will to proceed). Small, organized teams spread out all over the country would be very difficult to defend against, could have goals beyond just disrupting a single vote like kidnapping legislators or knocking out utilities, and could have trained, organized people who are actually ready and willing to put their lives on the line. Don't think in terms of getting ready for another Jan 6. Jan 6 happened and is over. Think in terms of what the people who did Jan 6 will learn from their failure, and organize around that.
  
  Well said.

My god the media really love him don’t they ?
They can’t quit.
- Of course. It gets the clicks. Which in turn feeds the bullshit, which they report on, and get more clicks. It's the circle of un-life.
  
  Stories about Trump are so annoying because there’s a decision matrix when it comes to upvoting/downvoting, ignoring or reading.
  When I see news articles about another wannabe fascist with a questionable business and personal history who made their success using family money and the exploitation of others that is completely irrelevant to me, I just downvote the story and move on.
  But Trump is different because in addition to the above, I also know he is actually dangerous. While it’s true he is stupid, lacks the ability to plan things, and in a sane society would never be allowed to run for office, it is also true that he’s surrounded by smart handlers and sycophants who have helped him tilt the scales of justice, and will empower him to break every conceivable norm and law to instill himself as a dictator/useful idiot.
  So I don’t want to just downvote and move on, since ignoring a threat is... well, dumb.
  I hate that I have to ask myself if a story is something that I need to upvote for the sake of awareness, or if I can disregard it as more media fellatio of an undeserving scumbag for the sake of clicks.
- They love power, yeah. The republiQan owners of corporate media are very specifically and in this case directly anti-democratic.
  Here's how: Any halfway competent democratic voice would find a way to say "That's Wrong" somewhere in there - the headline, for example. "In further traitorous thoughts, Trump says he'd attack America again"
  Remember Les Moonvees? I mean before he resigned after sexually assaulting a bunch of women.
  Or CNN's Jeff Zucker who also sexually assaulted a bunch of women and was virulently pro-Trump, even having a framed tweet from Trump on his wall thanking him?
  At NBC, Zucker put Trump in front of millions of American eyeballs for 14 seasons, positioning him as a lovably irascible titan of business and effectively turning The Apprentice into a shadow campaign for the future leader of the free world.

Question is what exactly does he mean? That MAGA republicans from around USA will visit the capitol city and go to see congress, all completely peacefully. we just have to hope the LGTB people don't make a mess of it.
Because isn't that what he claimed happened?
Trump is such a malignant idiot, and so is everybody who supports him.
- Question is what exactly does he mean?
  Terrorism.
  But the little bitches in the government are too afraid to call a spade a spade.
  
  I was referring to Trump's rhetoric that nothing happened, it was mostly a garden party where everybody from MAGA were nice and didn't do anything wrong. Despite all the evidence of violence and even policemen/security people dying and threats of executing politicians. But hey, that's just another day of being American I guess.
  
  "hE jUsT teLLs iT liKe It iS"
  
  Can't upset conservatives or they won't vote for me. And my entire election strategy hinges on winning over as many moderate conservatives as possible.

Yeah. I really doubt congress is going to fuck around next time. They'll be deploying the national guard and shooting on sight. Even other GOP members were pissed about the insurrection and were targeted by insurrectionists.
- This time, they might actually treat it as if they were "antifa" or BLM, even.

Yikes, forgive me if this is a naive question but how are these kinds of veiled threats against American democracy okay with Homeland Security?
- Our positions of authority are infested with conservatives.
  
  Makes sense. But conservativism pre-dates Trump and realistically will soon outlive him.
  It seems odd to me that they are happy to have someone random dismantle bedrock US political system? Or are conservatives less keen on democracy?
  Also I get the impression he doesn't have a conservative ideology himself, he seems like more of an opportunist than a believer.
- Oh it’s because “homeland security” is a false flag term used to spy and control their population.
  Kind of like how “weapons of mass destruction” was used to fuel an entire war.
  Once you’re rich enough and have enough corporate power you can do whatever you want at the expense to greater population.
  
  I was going to say CIA at first but then I remembered my parents telling me that is its own country.
  Idk I feel like as citizens we need some kind of organization that protects our political systems. There's a weird assault on democracy in my country at the moment too (not coups just unconstitutional legislation) and it really highlights the dangers now that disaster capitalists are on the rise.

The difference is, if rioters try to break into the Capitol building THIS time, they're not going to get bottled water and a pat on the ass. The Capitol police are going to be loaded for bear.
- No fucking quarter

so his supporters are gonna take another shit in the capital building, go to jail by the hundreds, one will get shot and a Democrat still gets elected.
k.

The SCOTUS says that if we don't let Trump do that there is a chance that Trump may do that !

Not really, because he's not in power this time.
He can't hold a protest in DC without approval and given how 1/6 turned out, nobody will give him approval if he loses.
- I mean, he could tweet about how people should show up anyway. I don't know if it would be effective or not, but knowing how rabid his fans are, it could lead to something. This is just more of his plausible deniablitity shtick. "Oh, a juror I don't like very much lives here. It sure would be a shame if a bunch of folks harassed or threatened them into doing what I want"
  Dude lost 4 years ago and still has a fanatical base that swears it didn't happen.
  
  I mean, he could tweet about how people should show up anyway
  Last time Trump ensured that police and so on couldn't prepare. Plus denied any assistance on the day. That alone is a huge difference.
- And this time around he can’t prevent deployment of the national guard

Please try it.
Your guy isn't in the white house this time.

If he tries it might cost him more than money

I'm more afraid what will happen if he wins, because I don't know anything about that. I'd expect a Jan 6 2.0 if he loses, but I don't know if there will be either Kristalnacht 2.0, Nazi book burnings 2.0, or just slow erosion of secular human rights in favor of christian fascism.
- just ~~slow~~ erosion of secular human rights in favor of christian fascism.

I'm not worried about it if he loses. He's just some guy. If people start to get violent on his behalf, they get arrested.
The scary part is if he wins in 2024 and has another Jan 6th (and the related effort to stay in power) after his term should have ended.
- It's cute that you think there will an America left if this idiot gets in again.
- If you mean the concern is not leaving in 2029 after he "wins" in 2024, I think that might be the very least of our concerns. If he gets power again, we'll be in very dangerous terrain already.

This time we'll be ready for his sorry ass.

It’s pretty clear that his endgame is to basically cause an enormous bloodbath.

You misspelled “threatened”.

Well maybe he should tell his supporters not to do that again….

Writers are running out of ideas for this season of jackass
- Hey, maybe we could put Trump in a shopping cart and roll him off the roof of an abandoned casino!
  
  I mean it seems dangerous, but let's try it. We may need a couple of takes, y'know, one for safety and that.

LOL, "hints".
- I hope your avatar remains relevant after this year.

And it could go the same as last time.

Bring it on, motherfuckers.

If that happens, I don't think the turnout will be anywhere near the same as it was before.
- Same he has only lost people nothing gained. I do not think this election will be that close but that's just me, a person from a swing state who watches neighbors remove their pro Trump shit.
  
  It'll only have a positive outcome if we all vote like our lives depend on it
  And for a lot of us it literally does
- Trump primary turnout eclipsed his 2016 run. Conservatives are at least as hyped in 2024 as they were in 2020. Meanwhile, Liberals are trying to decide whether they need to send more bombs to kill Palestinians or start dropping shells on Columbia instead.
  Looking really grim.
  
  You mean purported leftist voters are going to elect Trump and end democracy bc they're angry about Gaza?
  
  Liberals? You think it is solely the democratic party doing this or are you saying this is what voters want? I'm confused

If you didn't already know this would be the case, you're too optimistic about the situation.

At least if he does lose, there will hopefully be a riot squad waiting at the capital in case his threat comes true. It's what I'd do just in case he loses. In fact, it'd be the first thing I do! At the very least, if they don't come immediately within the first week after the election, just have them on standby just in case they eventually show up, ready to perform treason.

It’s easy to complain about trump or pontificate about January 6 and its probable replay.
Ammunition is going to get more and more expensive from here on out, go buy some bullets you think you’ll need before they’re prohibitively expensive or unavailable.
- Been saying the same. The fascists are here, now. Worst case, I bought a bunch of ammo while it was cheap.
  
  The fascists have helicopters and jets... Hope you got some big bullets

Am I supposed to be afraid of another small enclave of idiots making gigantic asses out of themselves on an international stage?

Why hint? He should come right out and say it! Stop being such a cowardly loser dude, own it, tell the crazies what you want them to do in detail!
- And risk his own neck? He'll let gullible idiots take all the risk just like before. He'll only show up if they manage to succeed.
  How people are willing to follow, let alone risk their lives over this lying coward.
  
  Yeah but I want him to go to prison for realzies this time.

What's wrong with a Tourist Visit? Or was January 6th NOT a Tourist Visit?

Yea… we know. Really trying hard to not live in FL before November.

Waaaaahhh

I can’t believe Norman Reedus and my birthday dates are tainted by this

Don't interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake.
- Careful, that was also Hillary's strategy.
  
  Don't also make your own mistakes while you enemy is making theirs?

Republicans promising to install an authoritarian government?
When will the democratic party drop gun control given this imminent threat?
SocialistRA.org
- False dilemma.
  
  Thank you for pointing it out.

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