It's so strange that this is even a thing

SpaceNoodle is the real killer here

On a serious note, Aziz Ansari (Tom Haverford from Parks and Rec) has a pretty good book called Modern Romance that's worth a read. When he does standup, he'll have a volunteer from the audience swipe though their Tinder (or Bumble or whatever) matches. The amount of trivial stuff that people dismiss potential partners for is absolutely amazing. People will be like "they're a Bears fan, swipe left."

So people could be compatible on 999/1000 different levels, but our methods of online dating almost allow too much choice, because people feel like they should hold out to find someone who matches 1000/1000.

I'm sorry, that's actually a mistake, fixed it

RIP craigslist personals

Judging someone for a bodily function is just stupid.

/s but not really. Men aren’t supposed to have standards when it comes to women according to many women

People with existing family trying to date, like a single parent checking on their kids. For sure the blanket no phone attitude is unrealistic.

Despite the boomer energy, I'm not actually one.

It's only been 2 years since my last "first date". I know the world moves pretty fast, but I'd be shocked to discover that in the last 24 months the world went from "can be traversed without looking at your phone" to not.

I guess I'd turn it around on you: NOT using your phone is NOT as much of a limitation as you'd think.

Also, so many stupid things we do on our phone are things that could be an interaction with your date instead. What WAS that movie with Brendan Fraser with The Rock? Where IS that restaurant with no lights and all the servers are blind? What time is it? What direction is the river from here? What nationality is Santa Claus? How far north would we have to go so that Zombies would be frozen solid for at least 3 months per year? The point of a date is to attempt to form a bond, and it's the shared journey that gets you there, not the successful and efficient completion of independent tasks.

Obviously, if the only way to pay for the meal is to tap your phone, tap your phone. The PHONE isn't the enemy. It's that you're your own enemy, and that your nervousness and awkwardness is going to try to push you into the comfort of your phone for reasons that you REALLY don't need to be on your phone for. Embrace the awkwardness and as much as physically possible lean on your date for anything you imagine your phone can do.

So how are you paying?

Well, you could pull up your phone for a short while if you excuse yourself and preferably tell the other person what you're doing. "Excuse me, I just have to find the tickets on my phone". This goes for any time you're talking to another person, btw, not just dates, otherwise you're being disrespectful to the people around you.

Yeah, you can disable iMessage in the Messages settings.

I just now replied to another comment remaking I had never heard of "curve" being used like this. And there are already variants of it? How long has this been a thing?

If my date can debate AOSP with me... I will feel very privileged indeed!

Yeah.... Or it could be the complete opposite of all that.

Android / AOSP comes in many flavours from Swiss cheese give your life away security to locked down more than any apple device could be. IOS only comes in 1 flavour.

Huh?

-sent from degoogled lineage os

I just want to be able to access files on my media server without having to pay 10$ for an app.

LMAO iPhones have those problems but like 10x as much, just replace Google&Samsung with Apple. Imagine not being able to download or use anything that isn't approved by big daddy Apple.

Seems like they are making it easy...show the phone instantly. When they show distaste for a brand, just leave.

Yeah, sometimes it's just a bad vibe or something they might think is silly but they can't ignore their instincts. So a woman may tell you it's something like your phone or the restaurant was too cheap, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's true.

I've found there's a big subset of people, myself included when I don't watch for it, who can't help but try to pick apart the reasoning behind "No" if you give them a full explanation.

Explaining your thought process on why you are declining gives them the tools to try to change your mind, to explain to you why your answer was wrong.

If you just want to wash your hands of situation, saying no with little to no explanation stops them from trying to salvage it, to convince you otherwise. I feel like giving a stupid bullshit explanation like "you have an android" may be the same idea.

*American apple people. No one else on earth gives a shit.

I remember when the iphone first came out. A guy in my country flew to the US to buy one then came back to brag that he's the first one in the country to have one and he couldn't even use it here.

I hope you would not avoid me for having an iPhone any more than I would avoid you for having an Android phone because judging people for what phone or computer or OS they use is stupid. In my case, I have an iPhone because I got in very early and now have several hundred dollars' worth of apps I don't want to pay for again. Maybe one day I will decide it is worth that sacrifice, but right now, I don't feel like it is. I also don't get the latest and best iPhone. I replaced my XR with a 13 this year.

But to me, you are no better than the hypothetical date in this post who judges the person for not having an iPhone. Why do either of you give a shit? It's a personal choice and it doesn't matter any more than what color your house is painted or what percent of fat you like in your milk.

Judge people for their attitudes and their actions, not what personal devices they decide to spend their money on.

Oh they definitely do, especially among young people. They even get bullied over the color of the iMessage text bubble which shows up in different color if the message was sent from a phone other than iPhone.

I blame dating sites to be honest.

For a large portion of women they can have almost anyone at the push of a button and so they start rejecting people for the most absurd things.

I imagine the same could be said for the "chads" on dating sites, but I think they care more about the pump and dump than being superficial about anything because they aren't in it for a relationship.

Then there is me, a literal joke of a human. My phone would probably be the last thing I'd get rejected for as you won't even get that far before swiping "not ever." Lol

I really hope you know better to take shitty Twitter memes at face value. This isn't a thing.

When you misquote a "study" by an online dating service as gospel truth.

I've literally only ever heard it be a US thing. I don't think it's a everyone thing, but I think it is something that US teenagers care about.

With a worm

As a straight man, I'd date a guy who can casually carry around a fridge rather than some standard, phablet cuck.

swoons

You actually can if you also have an iPhone.

USB-C: soon

The difference is those phone bring it. S23 ultra smokes any I phone in terms of usability. I can imagine having an iPhone as my mobile office

It's kinda bs too sometimes. My sister recently went through a divorce and now her ex and his new baby mama are in a group chat with her on iMessage to coordinate things like handing off the kid on weekends and holidays, general medical stuff, etc. Recently they were gaslighting her and harassing her because she refused to do something for them that was not in the custody agreement and the new girl sent some nasty messages... Then deleted them.

I told her then she needed to update her phone settings to disable iMessage with them so that SMS actually keeps a written record when they decide to harass her like that in the future. You can't delete that. Also, the carrier can pull up SMS records if you need to report something to the police, but iMessage is encrypted so I'm not sure Apple could do the same even if they wanted to. You can also set iMessage to indefinitely share your location with someone, so I showed her how to check that that was off. And if she shared any sensitive info through iMessage like SSNs there's a whole process to delete those from iCloud so that's not a risk if it ever gets hacked again (like it was in 2014).

Apple has some convenient features, but if you aren't that tech savvy, you open yourself up to all kinds of issues.

Everything on the internet is rage bait.

I think it's a younger demographic thing. I know my oldest niece for sure buys and uses only things that have a status symbol that is approved by other high school students. Basically an iPhone in one hand and a Starbucks cup in the other is peak fashion.

Exactly. I would do the opposite, let them see your phone early and if they reject you because of it then you dodged that bullet.

Actually I encounter this routinely as a work issue. My work requires a lot of co-ordination of labor via cellphone and some of the basic features Apple has - regular old group messages for instance don't show me, an android user, if a text is part of a group message and doesn't allow me control over the response. Depending on my software update it either sends to everyone who was tagged in the original message or no one but the original recipient but I won't know until I send it. That means any message I send back leaves me open to communication errors.

Also a whole bunch of stuff is proprietary, facetime, airdrop and so on meaning the ease of sharing information to me because of my hardware can be a factor in whether I get hired or not. This is actually purposefully done by Apple, they create convenience only between their users so it creates social pressure by causing android users to be routine social nuisances. They basically cause all these little micro fractures of actual peer to peer relationships on purpose to sneakily force android users to give up and buy their shit or else people have to be mindful of an android users limitations the same way you might have to adapt your behaviour to someone's disability or allergy... By taking on the cognitive work of understanding and adapting to someone else's limitations.

If you've ever seen someone throw a fit because they had to pick a restaurant with a gluten free option you know certain people aren't great at doing anything that inconveniences them even a little.

This is, in fact, zoomer bullshit.

I made my point. What do iphone owners have beef with android owners for? For apparently having worse cameras? That's a ridiculous reason to discriminate against someone. And if they are of that opinion, then that only reinforces my theory that most iphone owners are incensed by the corporate iconography and perceived in-crowd of Apple owners. A sheep.

"If you think calling all iphone owners ignorant" is an extremely funny way to start this statement

I hope this is humour.