Dems Reportedly Angry That Progressives Are Pushing Them to Act Like an Opposition Party.

"But if our votes are recorded, our voters corporate donors will know we voted against them!"

Remember all the times people said "Push for bills so when Republicans vote no it's on the record for election season?".

As if Republicans can see anything but the Republican next to the first person's name in a ballot.

They actually can't force votes though, so we'd be getting the same votes and we already knew whenever Republicans stepped out from the ranks such as the Hegseth confirmation where 3 of them abstained but he got appointed anyways. Recorded Votes doesn't stop the Trump admin. The Dems are effectively powerless without 13 Ind + Gop to impeach and remove him or his cabinet members or corrupt federal judges.

They just want money and plausible deniability. Any one of these Dems can just be bought like a repub

Wow I can't believe those fake congresspersons on that parody news site would say that. Thank you for bringing this into real political discussions. /s

There's a free app called 5 calls. It helps you to call your representative with a script. Progressives need to get on this. I'm aware it's a pain, but the script makes it a lot easier especially when you get an answering machine instead of a person.

The problem is you get the NDP/Liberal vs. Conservative effect when you do this. If you have 30% of the population vote for your Leftie, and 30% vote for the other Leftie, in a given congressional district, the Republican can win with 31%, despite 60% voting against the Republican. We need RCV before we can do this, and people need to understand that they MUST put the other party as choice 2 or we are back to ending up with a Republican.

100% agreed, it’s time for a new party. Republican-lite is killing our nation.

Tell this to Bernie and other progressives. Seriously, if we call and email them, they might decide they even enough support to do such a thing.

The Democratic party is dead.

The DNC leadership are elected by people who are elected by us. Almost no one votes in those elections... Probably no one even knows they exist. But a well timed strategy of getting like 50 progressives to show up to each election and vote for progressive leadership is all it would take to replace every liberal in the party leadership with progressives... No reason to leave 2 conservative parties intact

Aren't there already other progressive parties? Look how they're doing.

You should check out the Axios article they cite before you write them all off. The supposed "gripefest" is just Dems talking about how they're recieving hundreds if not thousands of phone calls a day.

Don't worry, just a few more decades of the same at most for nature to do what we're failing to. This will end within a human lifespan, the choice is if it will be with or without a habitable planet for Humans.

That’s the plan. That’s why billionaires are buying up properties in places that are currently too cold and remote for masses of people to want to live there (Montana, Greenland, etc).

They know climate change is real and it is 100% reflected in Homeowners insurance rates in FL and other high risk places. I’m fairly certain that it’s not the leftist types that get into starting insurance companies.

Also, the whole Covid thing… I am pretty sure there was a concerted effort that would cull our numbers a bit.

So yea, we’re all going to die probably — unless you’re rich enough to afford to move to somewhere that will have a more hospitable climate when we cross the 3 degrees Celsius threshold next year.

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Let’s start a new party called the Modern Future party.

The rich want to end democracy. They dont want to stop Muskler.

And almost everyone in Congress and the Senate is rich.

The democrats were this ineffective during the GWB era as well. Then after America gets sick of Republicans because their policy is terrible and predictably causes calamities of varying magnitudes, only the people who didn't go along for the ride with the Republicans thrive politically afterwards.

For instance, one of Obama's main draws in the 2008 primaries was the dude wasn't drawn into being pro-Iraq invasion.

The feeble wimps will all be seen as such if this era ever ends, and the public will turn to whomever consistently opposed the petard throwing before it hoists the one who threw it.

This should be the eye opener to the left that the DNC is right wing. They let the republicans do whatever they want because they want the same thing. They only pretend not to so they can scam for donations.

Democrats biggest donors are wealthy Republicans.

Hakeem Jeffries is one of the biggest sellouts. Him climbing the DNC ladder is a sign that Democrats will do yet another 2016 in 2028.

It really pisses me off that the ONLY outreach I saw were requests for money. Hundreds of them (many may have been scams, not sure).

They have to raise money so they can spend money to raise money. Then they've raised twice as much money even though they only have half of it.

Most of them do nowadays.

We need a Democratic Tea Party movement very badly.

Unfortunately, I already know the people who would lead it would also never get past making the rules of who's included, what kind of tea we'll be using, and if it's ethically sourced, and if any members have any problematic tweets in their past, what particular brand of socialism everyone subscribes to, and of course, what we're actually demanding from the government.

Say what you want about the right, but their superficial, Ork-like focus on goals gets them moving. Too bad those goals are usually things like "Vote against our best interests as much as humanly possible."

edit: I love that half the comments below are people disagreeing about how we would organize it and what we would want and who we would include. I both despair and celebrate that I'm not someone who can just hear a single word like "woke" and just laser-focus on uniting with literal crocodiles to take it down. Identify our weaknesses people, stop trying to be smarter than the problem. The problem is stupid simple, we have wealthy elite stealing our lives and futures away and the right is enabling them. Full stop, we should be fucking marching locked-arm with people whom we've been told to abhor to fix this. Imagine if people became scared to associate with billionaires. Imagine if we all did something.

and his cancelling of foreign aid at the same time

I don't think Trump nor President Musk understand how much power the US weilds, just purely on foreign aid. By gutting all of it, we removed a large portion of the US's foreign power (Which, IMO, is a pretty good result).

The US has been going all-in on hard power while soft power declines. There's a lot of rich individuals who benefit from military contracts but don't care as much about actually maintaining the empire. The big risk is that Americans are going to recognize this disparity and start WWIII in an effort to leverage the one area that the US has an advantage to retain hegemony.

Same foreign policy, same bullying strategy, but now they are: 1) public about it, 2) Targeting countries that help them being who they are for the last 70 years.

That's great for the rest of the world, be we still have to deal with this mess somehow.

This is sadly the truth.

If they even run primaries....

Primary every republican.

This.

They will get rid of primaries. They already did it last year

This is where I sit. Either the Dems are controlled opposition, or they're actually this incompetent. Does it matter? Do you even need to get conspiratorial? No, they're unqualified and should be replaced.

What would the D’s and R’s be doing differently?

You're about to find out.

They did rally themselves last month to push hard for tougher laws going against illegal video streaming websites. Netflix or someone in the entertainment industry cut them a check, I imagine.

Holding the only buckets that could hold water and go "I've done all I could, I'm gonna keep pushing for more buckets!" while the buckets that can be used are filled with gasoline by Republicans.

They didn't seem all that frustrated in the Axios article which is the source of all of the information in this article, although I'm sure thousands of phone calls a day would get old fast.

" There are a lot of good billionaires out there..."

Let me stop you right there pal. There is no such thing.

Democrats are tirelessly working behind the scenes! You just don't see what happens behind closed doors!

Behind closed doors:

a closed-door meeting earlier this week to vent their frustrations with progressive advocacy groups

Hey! They're not just there for a pay check! It's also the legal insider trading and other benefits

Yeah it's a clever lie that's perpetuated that says progressives have no where to go if they try to break from the Democrats. But secretly a more progressive platform would actually draw over a lot of disaffected libertarians and lite conservatives who only vote conservative because they've been convinced that they should only vote in opposition to Democrats instead of in favor of anything.

haven't you heard?

everyone and everything that isn't the democrats is russian psy ops...

what progressives would want to be in a disgusting right wing party?

Here's a thought instead of blowing your money supporting candidates that already have access to massive amounts of cash, donate it to the Trevor project, planned parenthood or literally any nonprofit.

they never will, they are fat and happy right where they are. Even a fascist gov't is preferrable to giving up access to wealth and influence they enjoy right now. I'd say much more likely is a workers party gaining popularity but that kind of pro-worker party is gonna have a hard time receiving the financial backing the dems and repubs get.

You forgot quotes surrounding leadership.

AOC is a clown. A preferable clown, but a clown non the less. Why don't we elect some intelligent, qualified and competent.

Our Revolution tries too

They are mostly all careerists who focus on who's "turn" it is while they are one foot in the grave. Its a major issue on why we have the current situation.

The fact that hold onto power they are either unwilling or too scared to use is infuriating.

They're not moderate. They are conservative.