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This is a great example of how conspiracy theories are: There are some bits that are quite true, but they are connected in such a weird and completely wrong way that you wonder how it even came to this.

That the problem with religions, they are not searching hypotheses to explain observed Phenomens, they search hypotheses to explain in what they believe, ignoring facts.

Electrician here, I've certainly felt electricity, and it sure ain't pleasant.

And those generation alternators must be very confused.

Masochist here, you're wrong
- Sadist here. You're right.
As a non-electrician, I've also felt electricity and can confirm, it is indeed not pleasant.
- It really hertz
- You only felt what electricity did to you, not what electricity feels, it probably feels like Rogue from Xmen where when it touches someone it hurts them so it will not be able to experience love so its sad and angry
- zztz...
You did not feel electricity, you felt what it did to your body 🤓
And your heart felt the frequency 🤓🤓 assuming AC.. hope you do your regular ECG 🫶🏻
- No no, work around hv and you'll feel electricity even if you're not doing hot work a lot of the time you can feel the inductive fields around you.
- Ah but your nerves rely on electricity so actually you only feel electricity, checkmate athiests
- By that definition you don't see or feel anything 🤡
It feels like angry
- and smells like burneding.
- Would you say like an angry god smiting you? That is how lightning must feel like.
Those pesky pixies do have a penchant for producing pain.
- Point properly presented.
It depends, with enough A's, you don't notice anything (anymore)
I may be an outlier here, but I've experienced mild electric shock from touching a random bare cable sticking out of a wall, and I found it weirdly pleasant. Refreshing, almost.
- Mrs Doyle touching bare cables because it makes her feel alive feels like the actual plot of a father Ted episode
- And this is how people get into electroplay...I, uh, assume.
- Perhaps it's time we call the men in white coats
No! You only felt what it does.
- Get charged to a few thousand volts, and you will feel the electric charge pushing your hairs away from each other
  You'll feel the electric fields just as you feel a breeze
- Now listen here you little shit
Or did you felt it? vsauce music
Fellow electrician here, I'm convinced that electricity is magic. I've only been in electric for 2 years or so, but I'll be damned if I know how that shit works. The copper touches together and that equals light, or motors spinning, or whatever have you. How? Idk, smarter people figured that out, I'm just here to make sure the damned drywallers don't cover up our magic copper
- Look up "potential difference" and that should make everything make a little more sense.
  Basically, the voltage component of electricity wants to flow where the potential is less than itself. In a 120v circuit, the neutral is bonded to ground at the main for a reference of 0v, and you hot leg will find the path of least resistance to that 0v (through the devices we put in line of that circuit, be it lights, motors, etc). The current, or load, in amps, is the work being done by those devices in conjunction with the designed resistance.
  Think of a simple incandescent light bulb. The filament has a certain level of resistance that's designed to sustain a glow when power is applied to it. The 120v potential, trying to reach 0v ground, passes through that filament (the load), making it glow (the current draw is the amount of amps necessary to achieve its full brightness). A motor is similar; power passes through the windings, generating a magnetic field that react with magnets and spin the motor.
  Basically, your voltage drives the power through its path to ground, and current is drawn by work being done. V multiplied by A is Watts (kW), or power consumed.

This is somehow more offensive to my brain than if they'd simply said "electricity is god". The way they completely muddy the issue, making the reader not just misinformed but made to feel complacent, like there's no correct information to be found, is way more grotesque. It shuts down the mind of the reader. It's anti-education.

That is the sense of religion and because it is so used by goverments. Ignorant and submisive people are easier to dominate and manipulate.
- Holy crap that art is freakily accurate to reality
- Actually there is also religions promoting science and research.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_attitudes_towards_science
  A number of modern scholars such as Fielding H. Garrison, Sultan Bashir Mahmood, Hossein Nasr consider modern science and the scientific method to have been greatly inspired by Muslim scientists who introduced a modern empirical, experimental and quantitative approach to scientific inquiry. Certain advances made by medieval Muslim astronomers, geographers and mathematicians were motivated by problems presented in Islamic scripture, such as Al-Khwarizmi's (c. 780–850) development of algebra in order to solve the Islamic inheritance laws,[18] and developments in astronomy, geography, spherical geometry and spherical trigonometry in order to determine the direction of the Qibla, the times of Salah prayers, and the dates of the Islamic calendar.[19] These new studies of math and science would allow for the Islamic world to get ahead of the rest of the world. ‘With these inspiration at work, Muslim mathematicians and astronomers contributed significantly to the development to just about every domain of mathematics between the eight and fifteenth centuries"[20]
  Many Muslims agree that doing science is an act of religious merit, even a collective duty of the Muslim community.[61] According to M. Shamsher Ali, there are around 750 verses in the Quran dealing with natural phenomena. According to the Encyclopedia of the Quran, many verses of the Quran ask mankind to study nature, and this has been interpreted to mean an encouragement for scientific inquiry,[62] and the investigation of the truth.[62] Some include, "Travel throughout the earth and see how He brings life into being" (Q29:20), "Behold in the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the alternation of night and day, there are indeed signs for men of understanding ..." (Q3:190)
I think its more than what you claimed... They are just objectively incorrect facts. Many people have felt electricity, we know where it comes from, what causes it, and how to control it, even.

Stupidity is a mystery. No one has ever observed it or heard it or felt it. We can see and hear and feel only what stupidity does. We know it makes people say strange things, make poor decisions, and ignore obvious facts. But we cannot say what stupidity is like.

We cannot even say where stupidity comes from. Some say it might stem from ignorance or misinformation. Others think that social influences or emotional bias produce some of it. All everyone knows is that stupidity seems to be everywhere and that there are many ways for it to surface.

No one has ever observed it or heard it or felt it.
I wish.
I may have to make this my bio.
I love you.
Paychology, Sociology, Social Psychology. Arguably studies of stupidity.

I was homeschooled my entire childhood. My mom was a Christian. Not a crazy zealot, just a woman with faith. Initially, my school books were through a Christian curriculum program (I believe abeka books, iirc). One of my textbooks had this module on dinosaurs, with little pictures of humans in leopard print look clothes picking berries while a brontosaurus walked by in the background. My mom, ever the fantastic mother, immediately tossed those pieces of garbage and got me on the state curriculum that the public schools used. Took her forever to get it. Initially, when she called the state to ask how to get those resources she was told to stick with abeka, and was offered several other insane religious options before they finally relented. From then on, even though we lived in Virginia, my school standard came out of California, and I had to take end of year tests that aligned with the state of California. I got a great education, and because Mama let me basically choose what hours of the day I did my schoolwork in, I didn't really need to take summers off. Ended up finishing 12th grade at 14 years old. I am so thankful that she realized how bad those books were, and fought to make sure, even as a single mother working well over full time, that her kids got a good education. My brother and I both placed highest in the state when we took our final exams, in everything but math.

What a coincidence! I had a very similar path! My elementary mis-education was largely a fundie school using Abeka as well. Their weird religious nationalism was so crazy when I look back on it. It's amazing they could actually publish this crap.
I wish I still had all the old books we had to get because that would make for a good laugh (and possibly an embarrassment campaign.)
Like c'mon we were kids how were we supposed to know? But also it just felt so bullshitty, like a written form of that awkward feeling you got when it was really obvious adults were lying to manipulate you and thought you were stupid.
It was in California, so eventually I had to move to the state curriculum also, around middle school, for my grades to actually count.
Honestly, that requirement saved my intellect. I went to a secular charter school where I was pushed into interacting with so many different people of different perspectives, and I would be a much crappier person without that experience.
Even today the damage isn't gone, there's still so much untangling and deprogramming to do.
These "curriculums" are child abuse.
After all that, I still kept my faith, not because of that upbringing, but in spite of it. That being said, I'm a Christian anarchist now. I make a point to counter this anti-intellectual, anti-Jesus, pro-fascist propaganda mongering wherever I can.
For what it's worth. . .I'm glad we both made it through the other side of being exposed to that slop.
- Even today the damage isn’t gone, there’s still so much untangling and deprogramming to do.
  it stunts their development while assuring them they have all the answers. funny, this is a recurring theme in religion that I see...
- Damn! Fellow Homeschooled Abeka-refugee, and a fellow Christian anarchist‽ Well met! In fairness, my religion's all over the place, but Christian anarchism is a big part of it.
If only my mom had had half the motivation to look after my education as yours did. Hell, even a tenth.
I didn't do bad, but I could've done much better weren't it for the hindrances that mom didn't care about.
This sounds similar to my childhood. Glad to know there are others. Growing up like that, I didn’t understand the stigma around homeschooling, however, seeing how some of my homeschool “peers” around me turned out, we’re a fraction of a fraction my friend. Thanks for sharing.

This is child abuse. Pure and simple.

Looking back when I was growing up I think the most nefarious thing about books like this is that printing gave a lot of implied legitimacy because it was expensive to print a book.

Speaks to how much money these people had to miseducate people.

We homeschooled our kids for non-religious reasons. Most of the commercially available books, materials and curriculums were Christian oriented. While I am a Christian (although not a conservative) I found some of the materials just flat out intellectually insulting, factually incorrect, extremely biased (without the benefit of scriptural justification) and the above example is far from the worst of what I saw. It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it.

We briefly homeschooled during the pandemic, and like you we're non-conservative Christians. When our Christian friends asked about our curriculum, they always wrinkled their noses at the fact that it said "secular curriculum" on the cover. We told them, "you don't understand how weird the home school curriculum business is. Trust me, it's way easier to take this curriculum and add the values we want to impart than to take all the Christian nationalism out of the religious curriculum."
It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it.
The irony is that such fundamentalists rely on so much engineering, built on layers of scientific research, for what they do (like eating. And housing. And recruitment. And printing and distributing that textbook), and... yeah. It'd be like a flat-earther in orbit. It's beyond ironic: it's just not a possible situation without the help of outsiders refuting that belief.
I have a lot more respect for the Amish, isolated monks, folks that take their beliefs seriously and consistently in their lifestyle.
My brother and sister-in-law homeschooled their kids for a while, which was a bit out of character for them. It turned out they were actually sending them to a private school that was technically "home schooling" because the parents taught the kids at home one day out of the week using school-provided materials and the kids were at the school the other four days. That one day a week allowed the technical "home schooling" designation and also allowed the school to use non-state-certified teachers (with the added bonus of being able to pay them hourly and only for four days of work a week). And all of this was only marginally cheaper than normal private schools. My bro and SIL eventually realized how shitty this was all around and moved into a good school district - which was way cheaper than private schools.
Wait so the above is actually real? And there are worse things in existence?
Wtf...
as a person from across the ocean, i don't get this. why would there be need for some different curriculum for homeschooling, and why would the choice depend on the parent? how is it possible you just get to chose? don't you have to comply with some general standard? here, home-schooling is extremely rare, but if someone undergoes it, they have to use the same textbooks as everyone else and from time to time pass some exams in school to be sure the kid is not behind its peers.
- The requirements for home schooling in the US vary wildly from one state to the other and can be almost devoid of any practical oversight in some circumstances. In most cases, parents have autonomy to choose their curriculum and there is a whole industry built to cater to that market. Unfortunately that includes books that deliver the kind of stupidity that we see above. Also, I think it is difficult for those outside the US to understand just how much we idolize individualism over any sense social responsibility here.
It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it.
But also;
I am a Christian
How do you reconcile these two viewpoints?
"It's all bollocks, but I still believe it."
- There's nothing fundamentally christian about the text in the picture above, it's just nonsense propaganda. The whole science vs religion thing is frankly bollocks too - science shouldn't be arguing about religion it's fundamentally incompatible. OP can believe in a god, believe in an afterlife - science has nothing to say on the subject, it's not testable, it's not falsifiable it's got absolutely nothing to do with science.

We have no clue what electricity is, because we, the authors, are dumb as fuck.

And we say noone knows because we can't imagine anyone could think on their own, and God forbid be smarter than us.
- Nobody knew electricity could be so complicated!

American Christianity is so weird. This sort of nonsense just isn't a thing in Europe or at least not in my country.

I went to Italian catholic school from kindergarten to high school and studied dinosaurs and shit, nobody gets to american level of nonsense
- My American catholic school taught us that creationism is against catholic doctrine. They also taught the controversy.
  My friends who went to public school got less instruction on evolution and their science teachers were obviously creationist while mine barely hid that she thought it was moronic
- Mostly because American school is about brainwashing, which isn't the case for the vast majority of everywhere else.
This sort of nonsense just isn’t a thing in Europe or at least not in my country.
So you're not Danish, noted.
I may have a simple American education... But I'm pretty sure the Vatican is in Europe.
- Not sure what point you're trying to make. The seat of Catholicism in Europe and American fundamentalists have very few things in common. Even American Catholics have very little crossover with their evangelical counterparts.
- The Vatican library has books on how electricity works.
- Not to be that guy but the vatican is important to catholics; not christians as a whole.
  In my experience american christianity is a whole other ball game

Used to live across the street from a Freewill Baptist Church.

Always curious about other beings mindsets, went and attended a service.

Walked through the main door and felt the trope of crickets chirping. No one greeted me, said hello, welcome, nothing. I was stared at but never acknowledged.

The service was strictly talking. No hyms or singing.

The sermon told me they are creationists that believe "Singing and dancing lead to temptation".

Point is their "educational materials" were horrifying. Mostly just fear mongering and advising self segregation from reality.

You called other people beings and that feels odd to me for some reason.
How full was the church?

And they think we're the brainwashed ones. lmao

Fancy believing in electrons.
You must be some kind of primitive
- Are you suggesting that he's related to a primate?! Heathen! Blasphemy! Stone him!

Why is there a 4th book? The way this book teaches, they don't even need a class.

They have several tomes more, in the 4th Science there are total 3 formulas (Area, Volumen, Speed of light) but 32 Bibel quotes. No more needed to make America great again.

Some scientists think that the sun may be the source of most electricity.

I wish most electricity waa from renewable energy

Lots of it is generated by burning biologically sequestered solar energy from hundreds of millions of years ago.
- Which is not renewable. Unless you can wait for a couple of million years.
- Well technically its still electricity created by the sun. Plants absorbed Carbon dioxide, turned it into carbon with the power of the sun, died and got buried deep below.

My brother in America I have felt electricity and I can say exactly what it's like.

If you still don't believe though I will gladly share the secret of how to feel it for yourself. You need only bring a fork.

Just live somewhere that 220 is the standard.
- You mean like America?
  https://youtu.be/jMmUoZh3Hq4
  ~~never miss a chance to link TC~~
- You’ll feel it once..
- I do
- For a preview that's way way too low touch a dodgy HDMI cable, a finger will suffice if you want to feel electricity and with your tongue if you ran out of 9v bats.
- Not as fun
9V battery and tongue, or electric fence

Electricity is the flow of electrons, (negative charge,) caused by one substance gaining electrons, and one substance losing electrons in a redox reaction. The thing that is oxidized loses electrons, and the substance that is reduced gains electrons. Oxidation is visible in nature via Rust. Water and oxygen gain electrons that are lost by the pure iron creating an iron oxide that is reddish brown. (Batteries have a + and - sign, hooking them up into a loop with a device creates the electricity that powers the device. Everyday batteries utilize zinc and a magnese oxide, but there are many other types of materials that are used in other types of batteries.) 25 years of this Christian faith homeschool bullshit; pretty clear why these dipshits voted trump.

That's electricity by chemistry. Electricity by physics is done by moving a magnet relative to a wire, for example as the alternator in a car does
- Yeah, can you tell I went to school for chemistry? I hadn't even thought about electromagnets or explaining circuits, capacitors and V = IR.
Ehhh.... That can't be right. And we gotta teach both sides.
It's not needed to explain electricity here, but needed to ban the Bible and religious faith from science and academic books in the US, because the US has too much (weapon) power in the world to let it in the hands of stupid and ignorant creationist people. 50% of cientifics in the US are foreigners and with the Trump policy and cuts of supports, a lot of these are leaving the US (4.000 from the NASA)-
https://www.thechristianmyth.com/creationist-nonsense/

Now, i usually don't advocate for book burning, but this one is making a compelling case

slow down there bud. burning the book would release co2 to the atmosphere and only return ashes and heat.
RECYCLING THE BOOK enables it to have a chance at being a better book, a book not fulla shit. a book someone should read. The tree that was cut down to make these ridiculous pages deserves better.
But send a few copies to foreign museums. So your descendants in about a 1000 years can study their history ✊😅

ISBN please— full title and author will help too

1591664233
- Bought it. Hard cover.

Index Tome 5

Meanwhile banned Books in Schools (Dangerous stuff)

I'm understanding more and more how a stupid pedo_asshole can be voted as president by so much people.

Has anyone actually read any of those books?
I feel like pretty much everyone who reads them is only doing so out of spite. I don't think anyone has ever really wanted to read Fahrenheit 451.
- I read 1984 (as an adult) and really enjoyed it, I'm not sure enjoyed is the right word, as it was also pretty sad. I can highly recommend the book. Animal farm I read for English class when I was 15 (in the Netherlands), didn't fully get it, and should probably read it again, knowing its meaning.
- I saw also the movie, also a movie with similar content, Equilibrium. 451ºF is the temperatur when Paper begins to burn.
- I've read most of them and they're mostly great, only one I read I didn't really like was Catcher in the Rye. Fahrenheit 451 is a classic, I've read it of my own free will.
  No offense dude but you kind of just sound like a teenager going "reading is dumb".

Fuckin magnets, how do they work?

Tide comes in tide goes out. Can't explain that.

This is the stupidest shit I have heard in my life. Ever seen fucking sparks? Ever had to deal with static electricity? What do they mean they don't know where electricity comes from? We have power plants and an entire grid to provide electricity. The ways to generate electricity is extremely well known and are common fucking knowledge... I mean I learned it as a kid from cartoons and video games.

I somehow have the feeling that this is simply ragebait... if not, well... can someone please take away the printing press from those people? Please?

Yeah it's not
I mean, this particular image might be, I don't know for sure, bit the content? Yeah, that's what the Bible thumpers wants taught.
Fuck Christianity, fuck all religions, it's the main cause of most of all suffering in world history
- America is fucking weird... you guys build the first atomic bomb and brought a man to the moon and then something like THAT appears.
  Regarding religion, well, I had a catholic upbringing and nobody, really nobody would have teached some horseshit like that.
Unfortunately, this appears to be real.
JFC, it's real. Someone posted a link to purchase the book off Amazon below. I'm gobsmacked.

"Ok, so here's the theme for this one: you're in the 1890s and you've just seen your first lightbulb. All you know is it runs on electricity instead of oil, and that some fucking idiot caught some electricity in a jar during a lightning storm. Go!"

In 1890 they had telegraph lines between continents for about 40 years.
- 1890 would also be about 30 years after the invention of the telephone and 2 years after the invention of the strowger switch (first automated telephone switch)
- "Ey, look! We gotta publish this book by the end of the week and the thermodynamics guy already wasted so much time that we're behind schedule! Pretend those people were morons, alright?! Now, c'mon, get to writing, you're on preface duty after that!"

Guess there are no Christian electricians then...

I think those ones are call magic smoke workers....
Electricians just need to know how to follow the rules, they don't need to understand the underlying physics. Engineers, on the other hand....
- But we do.
  If you don't have a working knowledge of your craft, how can you apply common sense?
  As the generation that I'm from dies out, there goes the knowledge.

Next chapter needs to be: "Fucking magnets, how do they work?"

- I guess we know where ICP got their science education now.

This feels like a projection of their deity. Did they want to conflate the mystery of their god to the mystery of electricity? I guess I'm a theist now...

The machine god is real. It's blood is charge
- Bloo... CHARGE FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!!
- Praise the Omnissiah!
Mysticism has a way of filling a volume. They'll ask question after question until they get the answer they want: "No, we're not sure why charge is a property that a particle can have in our universe, but..." - "Got it, mystery." Then they'll turn around and shepherd all these "mysteries" into their god of the gaps to demystify them anyway, so they can feel wise when they should feel curious.

I swear I saw somewhere Texas schools gives out these books

When I went to a (private) Christian school our science book was called Undertstanding God's World and it was pretty wacky. I think I remember it saying dinosaurs and humans lived alongside each other. I also remember being taught plate tectonics was a lie?
- I was enrolled in a Christian school for kindergarten through second grade.
  I was suspended in first grade because I threw a tantrum over the teacher saying that dinosaur fossils were all fake and created to deceive people into believing evolution. According to her dinosaurs and humans coexisted before the flood, and scientists know this but carve rocks into bone shapes to fool people because atheists are evil.
  Naturally, being a dinosaur obsessed little boy, I flat out rejected this hypothesis. My grandmother had taught me to read way above my level, and I read encyclopedia entrees on different dinosaurs before bed every night, often annoying the shit out of grandma because id ask for explanations of sentences from scientific articles as a 6 year old. So after calling the teacher a moron for the fifth time, I was sent home early. When my mother heard my side of the story, she went to the public school the next day and asked for an enrollment form.
  Fuck Christian schools. Science is awesome and dinosaurs are cool.
- I mean... We are still living among dinosaurs. What do you think birds are? Government drones?
- Source: Flintstones
- You can probably safely say plate tectonics is a lie in Texas, and not have to worry about inconvenient earthquakes to explain to the class. Try that in NZ...far more active over here.

There are more pixels than the neurons in the writer's brain

This appears to be stupid, and it is, but it's mostly evil. Teaching children to accept absurdities and distrust evidence to make them easier to control.

That's, what religion is about. Religion teaches people to be content with not understanding the world.

And with the dismantling of the US Department of education, things are going to get a lot, lot worse.

This is from 1976 (uncertain if this specific passage was change from the original run though)
The US education system has been slowly, but surely gutted since then
- Conservatism needs its masses of ignorant and near-illiterate electorate who cannot think for themselves and cannot use critical thinking to realize how badly they are being hoodwinked. This hollowing out of the educational system has been done on purpose to bulk up the Republican electorate.

This genuinely feels like a bit from Look Around You

Came here to say exactly the same. Experiment Two.
What are birds? We just don't know.

Tide comes in and tide goes out. You can't explain that.

I have seen electric, it’s blue and I have even felt it, it hurts. Also I know where it comes from, it comes from the walls, there’s an electric sockets for it.

Boom! Science, bitch! drops mic

Found it

https://archive.org/details/science4forchris00watk

Yep, real science
- You know, back in time before the dark ages, Christianity was very scientific. Science was a tool that god gave to humans to understand the world they live in.
  And now it’s scawwy
omg it's real? 🤣

This is for real? How is it even legal?

Well, from someone who studied electrical theory in a 'normal' university, the author isn't completely off base in that we know what electricity is but not why electricity is.

to be fair, we don't know why anything is, but that's something for philosophy so ponder, not science where you seek answers
science doesn't determine why, it determines how to the best of our abilities. why implies purpose and/or intent, which isn't something science measures.
- Oh we do measure why's, that's the point of social sciences. You just have to accept that purpose and intent don't exist in a vacuum and are the result of human perception and expression then study it as such. As a human phenomenon. From philosophy to psychology, there's a vast body of analysis on the why of many things. Cultural artifacts for example are the equivalent of batteries, where meaning is concentrated, captured and can be measured, studied and analysed.
With Griffith it stops being a mystery... It goes back to one with Jackson.

Are they dense?? Electricity comes from the power outlet. Everyone knows that

Of course. That's why god created power outlets. So mommy can plug in the electric mixer, to make you chocolate chip cookies

When was this written? Also, it's not entirely untrue to say that we know what electromagnetic force does, but not what causes it. They say it's a 'fundamental force', which is basically way of saying we can't further reduce it to explain in terms of other stuff. We don't know what any of the fundamental forces (electromagnetism, gravity, and the strong and weak nuclear forces) really are - we can only describe their effects on the world with maths ('what they do')

When was this written?
Given it has a (good quality) color photo attached to it, it was definitely published when we already understood the theory of electricity really well, so it doesn't get a pass.
We don’t know what any of the fundamental forces (electromagnetism, gravity, and the strong and weak nuclear forces) really are
I'd argue that for fundamental forces, "what they are" and "what they do" is the same, by definition.
And in any case, mains supply in your home is not just electromagnetic waves vibing around, it's electrons engineered to move through wires in very specific ways, transferring power from a moving magnet or (increasingly) a photon falling on a semiconductor junction, to move another magnet, heat up some metal, or (increasingly) bounce around some electrons between some semiconductor junctions and then emit photons from other semiconductors junctions.
Finally, most of the text is bullshit even if you don't think we know what fundamental forces "are":
No one has ever felt it
You can easily feel electric discharge. Just rub your hair on some wool.
No one has ever heard it
Just be around a thunderstorm. Thunder is the sound of an electric discharge.
We cannot even say where electricity comes from
You can see where the energy that moved the electrons in your wires came from: https://app.electricitymaps.com/
It was written by a complete and utter buffoon, and it can't be redeemed with any amount of handwaving or philosophizing over what it means to "know" or what things "are". Either that or it's satire (which might well be the case).
- Given it has a (good quality) color photo attached to it, it was definitely published when we already understood the theory of electricity really well, so it doesn't get a pass.
  It's even worse than that. Electric lighting predates the photo camera by several decades
- I think it might be real:
- I totally agree that the rest of it is nonsense, I was just commenting on the what it is/what it does bit
It was apparently first printed in 1976 according to this page I found discussing it.
- Good find , from the same book, respect Astronomy, explained with the Bible (in a science Book 🤦)
- The whole time I was reading that, I was thinking "man, I miss the old Cracked. This is gold."
  Then, I saw the author was Seanbaby! I think I know what site I will be wasting time on next.
- I love how the book says that no one has observed electricity, yet it has a picture of a lightning bolt on the cover 🤦
- Oh my...that page is amazing
- Holy shit, I thought this had to be fake. :(
I think you’re on the right track. It’s like they heard “you can’t hold and observe an electron” and just really ran with that but missed all the actual nuance behind it. Still baffling why they would print this, seeming to point to on something like only god knows how electricity works while there’s a person using a very clearly engineered device and electric socket.
- This is the basis for their entire “understanding” of the world. It’s how they thank god when a doctor heals them. It’s how they can say that something produced by the scientific process (vaccines) are bad, but then enjoy so many of the benefits of the exact same process (pain meds). “God did it” is the ultimate willful ignorance.

I'm curious what they think a lightning strike is.

god playing craps with the lizard king, who is always below the earth’s crust right at the moment when lightning is striking the ground.
- Fuck listening to science about how "Lightning is a natural phenomenon consisting of electrostatic discharges occurring through the atmosphere between two electrically charged regions. One or both regions are within the atmosphere, with the second region sometimes occurring on the ground. Following the lightning, the regions become partially or wholly electrically neutralized."
  This sounds so much better. What reminds when either one of them roll snake eyes?

Found a site with some more fun excerpts:

https://1900hotdog.com/2020/10/learning-day-science-4-for-christian-schools/

Fun excerpts and a fun article about them too!
These fuckers saw a child win at tag by saying they had a force field and based an entire field of study around it.

My Catholic school is more grounded to reality than this.

Grounded? That sounds like electricity talk, or should I say WITCHCRAFT?!
If it's grounded then there should be no safety risk

Replace 'electricity' with 'wind' and/or 'moving air' and/or 'breath', and now you understand what Proto-Judaic Canaanites circa 800 BCE thought 'spirit' was.

Lightning comes from Zeus and Thor. Obviously. /s

Obviously /s because Perun is the god of lightning and thunder
Thor's the god of thunder, not lightning.
- That's a bit more pedantic than the old Norse were.

https://www.amazon.com/Science-4-for-Christian-Schools/dp/1591664233

https://www.bjupress.com/about/

De-energize an electrical panel, remove the panel covers, energize it and let them fuck around and find out.

So where does that put people who have been electrified? Did they simply die of terror because they thought they had grasped a live wire?

God called their souls home. Of course. HE works in mysterious ways but we do live in His universe and we have to trust His wisdom.

what are frogs

Claude François : am I a joke to you ?

As a sub-par professional electrician, i have definitely felt electricity.

Seen it, too!

We have caught the electricity monster into a circuit and now we need to keep it in a loop.

The electricity monster was caught by Jesus! Why do you think electric poles are all crosses?
- Oh my god, energy travels via divine intervention. This is a miracle!
- Obligatory Gremlins 2 Brainstorm Key & Peele sketch
That’s how MRIs work! Superconducting electromagnets.
You see, the electricity monster will lend us its magical “X-ray vision” that doesn’t actually use ionizing radiation like x-rays.

I know people in my day to day who dont belive the earth is more than 2k years old, who believe there were never "cavemen", and dinosaurs weren't real. Baffling. This person is rich and has a ton of land. Education dont mean shit in freedom land.

This reads like a Look Around You narration

What are birds? We just don't know.

I've definitely fucking felt it before, luckily only a little 120VAC tickle, but yea I felt it

You felt god!
As a kid, I used to purposely stick my fingers between prongs while plugging Christmas lights in in order to electrocute myself. It's shocking that I came out from that unscathed.
- Electrocution is electric execution. Assuming you're still alive, you shocked yourself. Pet peeve of a former electrician, forgive me.
- Eh, you only get a little tickle from that. Now completing a circuit across your chest is a doozy. Would not recommend.
I had that feeling... I never did it again. I am lucky it was a split second or I'd be dead.

When they want to feel it, they should take a bath with a plugged in toaster.

I know this screeshot is as old as the internet because of that toilet. Still embarassing.

In creaciontist Schoolbooks Earth is still 6000 Years old, there is nothing which has changed. For creacionists, all answer is in the Bible, not in science facts, as in an interview "The human made globalwarming is a lie, the humans can't change the creacion of God", creacionism in action. Trump is one of these.
- Creationism is pretty much rooted in religious fundamentalism, ofc it requires an act of absolute faith against clear evidences. Faith based learning is its defining feature.
- Bro it's got to be like 6025 years old by now.

Jesus....

He's done enough damage, thank you
- Those Romans had the right idea.

Oh wow. It's been a long time since just reading a thing made me physically nauseous. I crave for the person responsible for these lies to suffer excruciating punishment. It breaks my heart having to accept that justice is dead and they will very likely never face consequences.

To be fair, the bible doesn't have any lessons on how electricity works... /s

Sounds like this https://youtube.com/watch?v=FBaVwwuErmU&t=

I refuse to believe that anyone can be this incompetent. What is the strategy here? How would religious extremists profit from creating the "myth" of electricity? I'm more confused than anything else, honestly.

It conditions them into believing that there are powerful and mysterious forces at work in the world that can't be explained but must be taken on faith. If they get into the habit of looking for answers to questions, they might start asking other inconvenient questions. My sunday school teacher had a similar spiel about how god was like the wind, we couldnt see or touch him but we could see the effects of his actions.
- That is really clever. Soften them up slowly but surely. Infest their world view with this nonsense and then one day they will be ready for the sales pitch.
- Yep.
  It boils down to:
  Reality is actually magic (ie, fundamentally incomprehensible and inconsistent), and our magic guide book, and my interpretation of said magic guide book, is more correct than any other book or person, because this book says it is, and says it is the bestest magical book, and I am the bestest knower of the magic book.
  It is magical thinking, a worldview based on a psuedo reality derived from psuedo logic (where psuedo means 'fake', 'impostor', 'sham'), which is a key component of many cults and also severe psychological disorders.
- Funny, I heard the exact same explanation for Dark Matter. But the context was 'so we know, there's something there, we cannot explain, which is why we need to study more or even rethink what we thought to know about gravity/the universe'. Science is awesome!
It's not incompetence, it's malice: a way to stupefy, thus, control more easily.
I expect it goes like this: Electricity is real and does things, yet it's so mysterious and unseen! Just like god!

The next generation.... Uneducated dombassrs

second verse, same as the first!

A textbook would lose most of its credibility in my opinion with a title like “____ 4 ____”.

The fact that it contains such wonderful takes on electricity is just icing on the cake.

The title is "Science 4 for", so it's the fourth in the series.
- Ah! I stand corrected on the title. Thank you.

Elec-trickery!

But surely that's some old book and is no longer used to teach today, right? Right???

It's been revised since this edition. I was homeschooled with the "for Christian Schools" textbooks (and was sent to college at the University that produced them) I was just young enough to get the newer editions as they were being rewritten, my cousins who were 4 grades ahead of me weren't as lucky and had the version shown in the picture. The versions I had were slightly better, they at least didn't have this particular nonsense in them. But they still all taught a very warped view of science, and I was in my mid-twenties before I stopped believing in Creationism. The last ~10 years since then has taken both a lot of work to learn about reality, but has also been quite a lot of fun. Science is really cool if you aren't stopping all the time to try to fit God in somehow.

What a shithole country.

lol I’m sure some of us has felt it before.

No notes.

Reminds me of this

I had never seen that before, thank you

Not only can you see it and feel it, you can also hear and smell it! They have clearly never seen lightning, heard thunder, been electrocuted or smelled the ozone.

That's bootleg Christianity.

Man, talk about a deep fried JPEG. If it was slightly more blurry with a few more artifacts I wouldn't be able to read it at all.

So this is what Lemmy's come down to? A repost of a 10 year-old Reddit post, which is a repost of a 14 year-old Tumblr post, about a 30 year-old book marketed to homeschoolers?

Truly we're at the forefront of memes.

Please, Consider the Following Groups:
People who were not on Reddit 10 years ago.
People who were not on Tumblr 14 years ago.
People who were not homeschooled in a christian fundamentalist household in the last 30 years.
People who just havent seen the post before.
People who forgot they've seen the post, then see it again and get a chuckle out of it.
People who havent had all the joy ripped out of them.
I think putting your effort into creating the memes of the new forefront instead of complaining about reposted content might be more a constructive and fruitful effort.
- People who havent had all the joy ripped out of them.
  People who haven't had all the joy ripped out of them don't make/spread ragebait memes, lol, this is projection.
It isn't certainly old, but creationism is still used in US schools, with not better content. I remember a US delegation not so many years ago, wanting creationism as an alternative teaching in European schools and their anger when they were sent to comb the desert. Even in religious schools the religion is separated from academic teaching. This is not the case in the US, where creationism and also scientology are taught as themes equivalent to real science, even in universities.
Eh, it's ok. There was even a Diogenes' Square post recently, which is centuries old meme. Imagine how many reposts that one saw.
Entshitification is impossible to completely avoid, even here, when so much of the internet's content is recycled or reposted from the most influential sites

There are no concepts we've ever seen, we only see their effects.

Do you see the air you breath?